What being gay means to me

pckts · Feb 8, 2018

Yes.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 New Living Translation (NLT)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. [SUP]17 [/SUP]God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work.

Leviticus 18:22 New Living Translation (NLT)

[SUP]22 [/SUP]“Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.

You have no ground to stand on to argue your point, not to us who put our faith in The Bible. Stop blowing hot air on this topic, and just do other activities on this website that have nothing to do with your sexuality.

blue_ladybug · Feb 8, 2018

Yeah God DOES tell us from His mouth that He's "not down" with homosexuality. He calls it an abomination and a sin. And it is.. It's unnatural and disgusting. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

So, if you think God is happy with you being "queer" as you call it, you are dreadfully wrong. My guess is you won't end up in heaven but that's between God and you.

PennEd · Feb 8, 2018

michael100 said:

You will indeed ask Him. And this will be His response:Romans 9:[FONT=&quot]19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” [/FONT][FONT=&quot]20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” [/FONT]21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?[FONT=&quot]22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory,

There is no Gospel message there for you at that point. These people had heard the Gospel message and rejected it.
Implicit in this passage is the FACT that we ALL sin and are therefore ALL doomed for destruction. I was "born with" the DESIRE to be with all the women my eyes see. Others with desires for alcohol, drugs, gossip, anger, etc...
The difference is that I, and other sinners, have been born again. This happens by hearing the Gospel AND accepting it.
The natural man, who inherently is a sinner, cannot understand this, and deceives himself in all manner of satanic beliefs.

You realize that by picking the parts of Scripture that appeal to you, and DISCARDING the parts that you hate, essentially means that you make YOURSELF out to be God.

So here is THE Gospel unto salvation. I pray you accept Him.

God wrapped Himself in human flesh, in the form of Jesus Christ. He was born of a virgin. Conceived by the Holy Spirit. Suffered. Was crucified. Died to pay the price WE owe for our sin. Was raised from the grave on the 3rd day according to the Scriptures.

Confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord. Believe in your heart His Father raised Him to Life, and you WILL be saved.

At that point you will become a NEW Creation. Sealed by the Holy Spirit, who will sanctify you. You will still be in your dead flesh, and it and the enemy will still make you think the desires of that dead flesh you can joyfully indulge in, BUT you will feel the conviction that it is wrong,and you will not be able to delude yourself that sex with men is ok in God's eyes. BUT He will give you the power to resist, and will conform you more and more to be like His Son.

Please accept Him, so we can truly call you a brother.

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michael100 said:

God does not unite through gooblygook. What you said has absolutely no base in reality.

Reality check:
Rom. 1:[FONT=&quot]18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[g] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools,[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

Rom. 2 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. 2 We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. 3 Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? 5 But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed.[/FONT]

NoNameMcgee · Feb 8, 2018

homosexuality is a form of perverted lust....

not Gods design

because being gay is sin

and God tempts no man

if you believe the bible
you cannot believe God made you gay....

or you call God a liar

it is a form of addiction michael

the same as someone being addicted to drugs and thinking they dont have aa problem

on top of that
being proud and boastful of their addiction

then lying about God saying He made them that way

all of us fall short of the glory of God

and the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ our Lord and savior is the only way to save us

by grace through faith

you need to truely examine yourself and seek God in this issue man

you are in error when you say He made you that way

He can not only still save you
He can deliver you from these temptations of the flesh

once we are born again michael
we are given a new heart

we shouldnt be justifying sin
or accusing God of making us sin

(only going off your first post)

michael100 · Feb 8, 2018

blue_ladybug said:

you are dreadfully wrong. My guess is you won't end up in heaven but that's between God and you. Would Jesus answer with that I'm sticking up for all gays for anyone who even thought about it! You don't accept me the Bible is a holy book don't get me wrong there are scriptures and story's I really like , but until we break the barrier of fear we are going to stay stick in this rut.. of not loving each other of not understanding, didn't god make me unique I'm glad I don't have the same views as some people on here bcos I wouldn't want to I'm sticking up for the minority voice here like you are a minority voice in the world I feel that way now do you understand what I'm saying

michael100 · Feb 8, 2018

NoNameMcgee said:

Please don't patronise me as that's how it's coming across to me.. I'm not changing my mind on something I know to be true like can I ask you what born again means to yourself? To me it is to become a child again to let your inner child shine through its to look on the world and your brothers and sisters through the eyes of a child .. all loving all trusting all knowing ,

pckts · Feb 8, 2018

michael100 said:

James 4:4

King James Bible
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

Emphasis on adulterers in your case. You think being a minority or opposed to the world/society opinion has any significance on the truth or what God's opinion is?

You should not put any meaning or consideration on what the world thinks. The world is what told you homosexuality wasn't a sin, not God. The world wants you to burn, not God.

Your faith is weak and your understanding is severely flawed. How could unity and peace ever come about from letting everyone cherry pick from The Bible what they personally thought was true? Do you understand the foolishness of trusting yourself over the World of God?

NoNameMcgee · Feb 8, 2018

i also want to add

lustful people who arent gay
arent doing Gods will either

but to claim God made them sexual people who should masterbate and fornicate and watch porn and is happy and proud about it

....
thats a serious error too

they are also searing their heart and lying about God

Depleted · Feb 8, 2018

michael100 said:

BTW, this isn't our first rodeo. You aren't the first homosexual to come on here and create a new god, nor are you the first to pretend to you're representing the minority, (as if this is that kind of election), nor pretend you are for peace, love, and kumbaya. You're not as unique or "minority" as you think. Actually, you're the opposite of both. Don't expect to last long.

But please actually take some time to read God's word. Because homosexuality and trolling really are bad lifestyles.

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michael100 said:

If you don't like being patronized, why are you patronizing?

NoNameMcgee · Feb 8, 2018

michael100 said:

thats not at all what im trying to do....

what do you know to be true?
______

well a child should be able to learn
and be humble accepting new truths (of God)
rejecting the ways of the world

but being born again
is being born of God (spiritually)

He places a new heart and spirit in you
an incorruptible seed

and now you are His child
you also hear His voice
(which includes instruction and chanstening for if we are in error)

michael100 · Feb 8, 2018

Depleted said:

God does not unite through gooblygook. What you said has absolutely no base in reality.

Reality check:
Rom. 1:[FONT=&quot]18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[g] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools,[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

Rom. 2 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. 2 We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. 3 Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? 5 But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed.[/FONT]

God's purpose is love am i right?
Why not pull a scripture that says love your neighbour as yourself, do unto others as you would have them do to you Jesus said that all I'm getting here is you are trying to find the fault in what I'm saying instead of looking for what we have in common I live on earth you live on earth I have a body and soul just like you too. I love a man and to be honest if any religion tells me I can't love someone for who they are as a person then I wouldn't want to teach that thats kinda hate and I follow love.

michael100 · Feb 8, 2018

NoNameMcgee said:

Can I say if you were a child again and so was I and we were in the same room together would it bother you if I was gay it wouldn't even be a question would it you would love me as God does truly

blue_ladybug · Feb 8, 2018

Man wasn't made to have sex with another man. It's fine to love someone, but you need to be having sex with a WOMAN. Like God intended for you to.

Any sexual interaction other than man and woman, is unnatural and an abomination to God.

NoNameMcgee · Feb 8, 2018

michael100 said:

love is wanting the best for someone michael...

to the point of self sacrifice

if you love someone
you will not commit sodomy with them
or fornication

or cause them to sin and tempt them

i understand you have your opinions

but they are not founded in scripture in regards to your sexual nature

i see you came here

obviously you came for fellowship

thats good

you want to seek God

Hes surely calling you

but please know
im not being hateful when i tell you

looking our sin as something God caused is a dangerous path

He wishes to deliver us from it

blue_ladybug · Feb 8, 2018

What bothers us is not the fact that you're gay, but that you're trying to justify your sinful lifestyle by saying that God is okay with it. HE ISN'T... It's fine that you love a man. What is NOT fine, is that you're having sex with a man.

michael100 said:

Jimbone · Feb 8, 2018

michael100 said:

I think there is confusion here. I honestly don't think being gay is something "you are", being gay is something you "do", something you choose to identify as. This is the only sin you can proudly label yourself publicly in today's world and have people support you, then call me hateful for speaking the truth. (not "you" specifically, just the general attitude out there today) Not many people would march down the street screaming "I cheated on my wife", or "Hey I slept with my brothers wife", and even if they did they wouldn't gain the majority support of people, even among sexual sin being gay is the only one people really embrace and use as their complete identity. That said I have to say that I do agree that God loves you, and absolutely calls you to Him, that's why I personally love seeing you here.

Another huge misunderstanding I sense in you is thinking God is something you "figure out" in life. You seem to be making God what you feel He is in order do justify your own sin. That is what we all do before we are in Christ, and that is backwards from how it works in my experience. God reveals Himself to us, like in "real life", He takes you and makes you new giving you a new heart, new desires, transforming you to bring Him glory and further the Kingdom. Listen man I do not agree with the guy up there that says this is a sin God "hates more", we are all broken and low in the face of our God. I have started to see repentance as, coming to the understanding before God that you KNOW "your way" is like filthy rags and only lead to death. This is where every Christian has to be at some point, for me it took losing the use of my right arm to get me to understand that "my way" was no way at all. Jesus calls us to turn from our lives and follow Him, Paul tells us to put to Death the old man. You have to surrender yourself to God brother, then He changes you. Please understand this, you don't "get right" first then approach God, You also don't get to mold God into who you want Him to be, He tells you who He is. We are to fall on His feet then He lifts us up. He does love you and He has called you to "come". I pray He draws you to Himself in truth and sets you free. Have a good day too man.

NoNameMcgee · Feb 8, 2018

michael100 said:

i remember hearing what gay was when i was 6

i said
"ewww thats gross"

to be honest im much more accepting of others now
(praise God for working in me)

but i wont justify sin
or saying God makes you sin

you act like i dont love you

i WANT whats best for you

i love you already in that'way

even if youre gonna not listen to a word i say

im trying help you here...

shine light where there is darkness

michael100 · Feb 8, 2018

Let's say what you all say is right that god didn't intend for homosexuality in the beginning... It's not beyond god to change his mind on the issue maybe me being here telling you what I'm saying as truth is in some way god telling you it's now ok with him ... Nothing is impossible with God .

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