KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES

[preacher4truth]

And here I thought we were having a nice discussion about manuscript evidence, and KJV1611, dismisses it as being divisive, let’s talk about something better. Agreed! Except I never see you on any threads except for the ones posting about the KJV Only.

As for the other 2, and a few others that wander in from time to time, you can’t address madness, rationally, can you? Because only their version is perfect, their translation told them so!

Sad, just sad!

The "KJB" corrects the Hebrew and Greek which must mean there were errors in the original mss. King Jimmah came along to fix those errors! Surprised the King Jimmah-ites aren't Catholic or Anglican as much as they worship him and that version. But they do have serious theological issues, so they may as well be!

 

[KJV1611]

That sounds good and looks good on paper; but IMO it doesn't work

I believe that there are indeed errors in transcription [some of which are acknowledged in marginal notes] and errors in translation in all available translations and all existing Hebrew and Greek Mss. I believe that God allows those errors; but does NOT allow his message to be compromised by those errors.

I would believe that too if I could find that doctrine in the bible, but I just don't see the corruption of scripture any where in the bible.

 

[KJV1611]

And here I thought we were having a nice discussion about manuscript evidence, and KJV1611, dismisses it as being divisive, let’s talk about something better. Agreed! Except I never see you on any threads except for the ones posting about the KJV Only.

As for the other 2, and a few others that wander in from time to time, you can’t address madness, rationally, can you? Because only their version is perfect, their translation told them so!

Sad, just sad!

I"m sorry, I'm just not interested in discussing Greek words and manuscript copies. I do however like to discuss supposed KJV errors and thats why I participate in these discussions.

 

[KJV1611]

The "KJB" corrects the Hebrew and Greek which must mean there were errors in the original mss. King Jimmah came along to fix those errors! Surprised the King Jimmah-ites aren't Catholic or Anglican as much as they worship him and that version. But they do have serious theological issues, so they may as well be!

Now you're getting into some good stuff... doctrine. What serious theological issues do you see me having?

 

[SovereignGrace]

I"m sorry, I'm just not interested in discussing Greek words and manuscript copies. I do however like to discuss supposed KJV errors and thats why I participate in these discussions.

The problem stems from the fact youse guise have set the KJV as the standard, when the standard is/are the mss they used to translate the KJV, NKJV, ESV, NLT, NIV, NASB, (H)CSB, &c.

To to get to the heart of the KJV vs MV debate, we have to use those Greek, Hebrew, & Aramaic mss in this debate.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Now you're getting into some good stuff... doctrine. What serious theological issues do you see me having?

The KJV is the only pure word of God...
You were saved using the NIV, but born again only after reading the KJV. One is not saved w/o being born again and vice versa.

 

[KJV1611]

The KJV is the only pure word of God...
You were saved using the NIV, but born again only after reading the KJV. One is not saved w/o being born again and vice versa.

I can respect that comment. I don't agree with you of course but I can see how would see that as a bad doctrine.

 

[KJV1611]

The problem stems from the fact youse guise have set the KJV as the standard, when the standard is/are the mss they used to translate the KJV, NKJV, ESV, NLT, NIV, NASB, (H)CSB, &c.

To to get to the heart of the KJV vs MV debate, we have to use those Greek, Hebrew, & Aramaic mss in this debate.

I don't have the same standard as you, I could care less what the originals say. The word of God is not bound by words, there are hundreds of words that can be used to say exactly the same thing.

You guys freak out over the KJV translators using Easter instead of Passover... don't you realize that Easter is the fulfillment of Passover??? Both words are talking about exactly the same thing - Passover before fulfillment and Easter after fulfillment.

 

[SovereignGrace]

I can respect that comment. I don't agree with you of course but I can see how would see that as a bad doctrine.

It is a bad doctrine. No one is saved, justified, w/o being born again, and vice versa. Why disagree with the Bible? What verses say someone is saved w/o being born again?

 

[KJV1611]

It is a bad doctrine. No one is saved, justified, w/o being born again, and vice versa. Why disagree with the Bible? What verses say someone is saved w/o being born again?

Have you been born again by the INCORRUPTIBLE word of God?

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Now you're getting into some good stuff... doctrine. What serious theological issues do you see me having?

Exhibit A

Do you honestly not see what is wrong with the statement below?

I believe the KJV is the exact image God, inerrant and true to God's character. I believe God signed the book using miraculous and intentional number patterns from cover to cover. I believe that God hid DNA and other unknown sciences back in the day of the writings to prove that the bible's authorship was outside of time and space.

I believe God changed or rather updated certain words to denote special events that an uninspired translator could have never picked up on. Easter would be one such word. Only the Holy Spirit could show a translator why Easter should be used instead of passover.

 

[KJV1611]

Exhibit A

Do you honestly not see what is wrong with the statement below?

Ok, help me out here lol. What part of that do you think is wrong?

 

[SovereignGrace]

Have you been born again by the INCORRUPTIBLE word of God?

Absolutely. And I was saved at the same time, too.

 

[jasonford316]

I would like to know your stand on the sin of apostasy I agree that the KJV is the best English translation all the others are perverted

 

[SovereignGrace]

Have you been born again by the INCORRUPTIBLE word of God?

Now, what verses prove someone is saved, and then later on born again?

 

[preacher4truth]

Have you been born again by the King James Version?

There, that's what you really mean, fixed it for you.

How sad.

 

[Desdichado]

That's it. The gloves are coming off.

I'm here to champion the Holman Christian Standard Bible. The only Bible. All else leads to Perdition and a cage in SovereignGrace's basement.

 

[KJV1611]

Absolutely. And I was saved at the same time, too.

So does that mean you do believe the incorruptible word of God - a bible with no corruption, with no errors, exists today?

 

[SovereignGrace]

So does that mean you do believe the incorruptible word of God - a bible with no corruption, with no errors, exists today?

Coming from someone who could(should be couldn’t) care less what the originals say? The KJV is not error-free either, mon ami.

 

[SovereignGrace]

That's it. The gloves are coming off.

I'm here to champion the Holman Christian Standard Bible. The only Bible. All else leads to Perdition and a cage in SovereignGrace's basement.

I have the updated CSB. Am I doomed to perdition?