KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES

[SovereignGrace]

Are we that nit picky that typo's are considered mistakes in the word of God?

Yes we are.

 

[KJV1611]

So it is 7times... how does it differ from 8times or 6times? I do not get your point.

BTW, its 10times, not 7times. 3 occurences are in the KJV apocrypha.

7 is the number for completeness - last days... completing the days.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Like I said before, my standard for inspiration is not the same as yours.

Let’s read it. What’s your standard for inspiration?

 

[KJV1611]

So it is 7times... how does it differ from 8times or 6times? I do not get your point.

BTW, its 10times, not 7times. 3 occurences are in the KJV apocrypha.

7 is the number for completeness - end of the world... completing the world.

 

[KJV1611]

Let’s read it. What’s your standard for inspiration?

No errors and no contadictions and a signature by God.

 

[SovereignGrace]

No errors and no contadictions and a signature by God.

Now, what’s your proof it has God’s signature?

 

[KJV1611]

Now, what’s your proof it has God’s signature?

Things done or mentioned in the bible that only God could have known or could made happen.

 

[trofimus]

7 is the number for completeness - last days... completing the days.

Can you prove it?

 

[KJV1611]

Can you prove it?

Prove what? That 7 in the bible means completeness?

 

[trofimus]

This is a good question for all, if God wanted to put his stamp of authenticity on a bible how do you think he would do it?

General recognition in common church. Mirrored in various independent creeds.

The same happened with the NT canon.

 

[trofimus]

Prove what? That 7 in the bible means completeness?

Well, all of it.

That 7 means completness everytime in the Bible.

That "end of the world" means "complete world".

That its 7times and not 10times in the KJV.

 

[Joseppi]

Here's your statement restated:

"Holy Spirit" is not a descriptive phrase.
Therefore, the Holy Spirit is not "spirit"; or,
the Holy Spirit is not holy; or,
the Holy Spirit is neither holy nor "spirit".

Any other blasphemy you wish to add to that before you are written off as a heretic?

The phrase “Holy Spirit” denotes a name, as I stated previously. A name refers to a person.
That name is used but one time in the Authorized.

The phrase “holy spirit” referred to
David’s own spirit.

The term “ spirit” refers to that which is born of the Spirit.

”Spirit” refers to the singular Spirit of God.

The phrase “holy Spirit” is descriptive of the Spirit of God.

Why is the phrase “Holy Spirit” used once?
To avoid any confusion as to function and as to whom the Holy Ghost is.

Do you know why the name Holy Ghost is used?

 

[KJV1611]

General recognition in common church. Mirrored in various independent creeds.

The same happened with the NT canon.

I bleieve the cannon is 66 books because that's what God wanted it to be. Yes he may have inspired the church to arrive at that number but the number I believe came from God

 

[SovereignGrace]

Things done or mentioned in the bible that only God could have known or could made happen.

I can see that in the KJV, ESV, NIV, NASB, YLT, NKJV, &c.

 

[trofimus]

In NIV, "last day/s" is present 14times. Its 2*7.

Huh... now what, we have another inspiration pattern?

 

[trofimus]

I bleieve the cannon is 66 books because that's what God wanted it to be. Yes he may have inspired the church to arrive at that number but the number I believe came from God

Your personal belief is not a standard for the common church...

And if you believe that 7 means completness, it should be 77, not 66. Be consistent.

 

[SovereignGrace]

The phrase “Holy Spirit” denotes a name, as I stated previously. A name refers to a person.
That name is used but one time in the Authorized.

The phrase “holy spirit” referred to
David’s own spirit.

The term “ spirit” refers to that which is born of the Spirit.

”Spirit” refers to the singular Spirit of God.

The phrase “holy Spirit” is descriptive of the Spirit of God.

Why is the phrase “Holy Spirit” used once?
To avoid any confusion as to function and as to whom the Holy Ghost is.

Do you know why the name Holy Ghost is used?

The Holy Spirit is a person, not just a name.

 

[Dino246]

Things done or mentioned in the bible that only God could have known or could made happen.

... which are in all Bibles, not just the KJV. The problem is not that you have a standard. The problem is that you toss your standard aside when it's not convenient for you to apply it.

Aside from word and phrase counts, every assertion you make for the KJV being inspired can be applied to other translations. I consider such counts irrelevant because it hasn't been proven that they exist in the original languages.

 

[SovereignGrace]

... which are in all Bibles, not just the KJV. The problem is not that you have a standard. The problem is that you toss your standard aside when it's not convenient for you to apply it.

Aside from word and phrase counts, every assertion you make for the KJV being inspired can be applied to other translations. I consider such counts irrelevant because it hasn't been proven that they exist in the original languages.

They will also use longevity as proof. The Quran has been around much longer. I guess that’s proof God’s approval is upon it, too?

 

[KJV1611]

Well, all of it.

That 7 means completness everytime in the Bible.

That "end of the world" means "complete world".

That its 7times and not 10times in the KJV.

We get these ideas from reading the bible. I don't think that every time the number 7 is used in the bible it's always about completion but the general sense is that the number 7 in the bible represents completeness.

This is the point I'm trying to make, I'm not saying one way or another about what the end of the world was.