GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

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hi LGF
i believe I've answered all your questions from 7127 and gave scriptures to support my answers
did you want me to explain any of them more?
what's the next step?
LGF is resting from his labors now thank GOD.
 
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The reason Moses had to write them is he destroyed the one God wrote. He was extremely angry with the Israelites creating a gold bull to worship while he was on the mountain. He then had to go back up and have God dictate them to him.
GOD wrote the 10 commandments on a second pair of stone tablets that Moses made, which later were stored in the ark of the covenant. The ark and tablets eventually disappeared, which foretold the passing away of the law. The reason Moses wrote it all on a scroll is because it is all one law.

And it shall come to pass that when ye are multiplied and increased upon the land, saith the Lord, in those days they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the Holy One of Israel: it shall not come to mind; it shall not be named; neither shall it be visited; nor shall [this] be done any more. Jeremiah 3:16
 

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You worship God everyday, but the sabbath is a rest day period. God never said anything about worship. He said REST,REST, REST.
You ignore the Sabbaths day walk allowed them to go to the temple and worship. Quit trying to rewrite the Bible.
 
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GOD wrote the 10 commandments on a second pair of stone tablets that Moses made, which later were stored in the ark of the covenant. The ark and tablets eventually disappeared, which foretold the passing away of the law. The reason Moses wrote it all on a scroll is because it is all one law.
And it shall come to pass that when ye are multiplied and increased upon the land, saith the Lord, in those days they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the Holy One of Israel: it shall not come to mind; it shall not be named; neither shall it be visited; nor shall [this] be done any more. Jeremiah 3:16
This is stupendously good. Thank you!
 

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GOD wrote the 10 commandments on a second pair of stone tablets that Moses made, which later were stored in the ark of the covenant. The ark and tablets eventually disappeared, which foretold the passing away of the law. The reason Moses wrote it all on a scroll is because it is all one law.
And it shall come to pass that when ye are multiplied and increased upon the land, saith the Lord, in those days they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the Holy One of Israel: it shall not come to mind; it shall not be named; neither shall it be visited; nor shall [this] be done any more. Jeremiah 3:16
Scripture reference for God writing the second tablets.

Exodus 34 AMPC

28 Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he ate no bread and drank no water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
29 When Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the two tables of the Testimony in his hand, he did not know that the skin of his face shone and sent forth beams by reason of his speaking with the Lord.

Oops Moses wrote on the second set of tablets.
 
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Scripture reference for God writing the second tablets.

Exodus 34 AMPC

28 Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he ate no bread and drank no water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
29 When Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the two tables of the Testimony in his hand, he did not know that the skin of his face shone and sent forth beams by reason of his speaking with the Lord.

Oops Moses wrote on the second set of tablets.
That's worded vaguely that makes it hard to see. GOD made the first pair of tablets, Moses made the second pair. GOD wrote the 10 commandments on both.

At that time the LORD said unto me, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first, and come up unto me into the mount, and make thee an ark of wood. And I will write on the tables the words that were in the first tables which thou brakest, and thou shalt put them in the ark. Deuteronomy 10:1-2

This showed me something I haven't seen before. The first pair of tablets were exposed for everyone to see, but the second pair were hidden in the ark, which symbolizes Christ. This signifies that righteousness would not come through law, but through Christ who would have to die.

This same sort of thing happened when GOD told Israel the first time to enter the promised land. That was in the fall of the year (time of first-ripe grapes) when the festival of tabernacles would have occurred (the time of rest from yearly labors), and when Noah's ark rested. They would have entered their rest in Canaan from the south without having to cross the Jordan River, which symbolizes death. But they did not enter because of unbelief, and had to enter during Passover in the springtime through the Jordan River, which signified the death of Christ, our Passover.

I'm always struck with how GOD initially dealt with Israel as if they wouldn't sin, but afterwards responded with a different way that dealt with their sin.
 

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The reason Moses had to write them is he destroyed the one God wrote. He was extremely angry with the Israelites creating a gold bull to worship while he was on the mountain. He then had to go back up and have God dictate them to him.
Moses wrote something here

Exodus 24: 4. And Moses wrote all the words of the LORD, and rose up early in the morning, and builded an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel.

which seems to be before he receives the two tablets

12. And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
 

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He can't answer you. He was banned for telling people that if they choose to worship God on any day other than saturday they will never see the Kingdom. He also made many statements that told men they were not worshiping the true God if they went to church on Sunday rather than Saturday.
thanks for the Heads up!

i didn't realize he'd been banned
(it doesn't show up on the mobile site version)

:D
 

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All sacrifices were for removing the sin from the person. Priests were allowed to eat some of the sacrificed animals.
"All sacrifices were for removing the sin from the person."

possibly, I'm not sure

i did notice that what Cain and Abel are doing are offerings

Genesis 4: 3. And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. 4. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering
 

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GOD wrote the 10 commandments on a second pair of stone tablets that Moses made, which later were stored in the ark of the covenant. The ark and tablets eventually disappeared, which foretold the passing away of the law. The reason Moses wrote it all on a scroll is because it is all one law.

And it shall come to pass that when ye are multiplied and increased upon the land, saith the Lord, in those days they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the Holy One of Israel: it shall not come to mind; it shall not be named; neither shall it be visited; nor shall [this] be done any more. Jeremiah 3:16
wow, never heard that scripture from Jeremiah

it explains do much about the ark!

16*In those days there will be many more of you in the land,” announces the*Lord. “Then people will not talk about the ark of the covenant of the*Lord*anymore. It will never enter their minds. They will not remember it. The ark will not be missed.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah3&version=NIRV
 

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You and some others refuse to recognize how people reading posts on a forum act. The longer the post the fewer people will be willing to read it. They might read several sentences before going on to the next post. If you desire to be read keep it short. A couple of paragraphs at most. Now you can decide how many people will bother to read your posts. The longer the fewer.
Should that be addressed to LGF?

(Notice my short post)
 

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That's worded vaguely that makes it hard to see. GOD made the first pair of tablets, Moses made the second pair. GOD wrote the 10 commandments on both.
At that time the LORD said unto me, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first, and come up unto me into the mount, and make thee an ark of wood. And I will write on the tables the words that were in the first tables which thou brakest, and thou shalt put them in the ark. Deuteronomy 10:1-2

This showed me something I haven't seen before. The first pair of tablets were exposed for everyone to see, but the second pair were hidden in the ark, which symbolizes Christ. This signifies that righteousness would not come through law, but through Christ who would have to die.

This same sort of thing happened when GOD told Israel the first time to enter the promised land. That was in the fall of the year (time of first-ripe grapes) when the festival of tabernacles would have occurred (the time of rest from yearly labors), and when Noah's ark rested. They would have entered their rest in Canaan from the south without having to cross the Jordan River, which symbolizes death. But they did not enter because of unbelief, and had to enter during Passover in the springtime through the Jordan River, which signified the death of Christ, our Passover.

I'm always struck with how GOD initially dealt with Israel as if they wouldn't sin, but afterwards responded with a different way that dealt with their sin.
If the intention was to say God wrote the second set it would be worded explicitly so. Instead it points to Moses as writing it although slightly ambiguously.
 

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If the intention was to say God wrote the second set it would be worded explicitly so. Instead it points to Moses as writing it although slightly ambiguously.
looks like a paradox to me

imo, it's not really important unless one feels that something God wrote is eternal, something Moses wrote is temporary

this was an eye opener for me

Mark 7: 10. For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death

Moses said that?
 
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this was an eye opener for me

Mark 7: 10. For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death

Moses said that?
Yep

For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood [shall be] upon him. Leviticus 20:9
 

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Yep

For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood [shall be] upon him. Leviticus 20:9
right, what caught my eye was that Jesus quotes one of the 10 C, and says Moses said

to me, it sounds like whether God said it or Moses, it's really the same, since Moses was a prophet

hence, trying to divide up the law into Moses said and God said doesn't really fit
 
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right, what caught my eye was that Jesus quotes one of the 10 C, and says Moses said

to me, it sounds like whether God said it or Moses, it's really the same, since Moses was a prophet

hence, trying to divide up the law into Moses said and God said doesn't really fit
GOD said it

And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. Exodus 21:17
 

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GOD said it

And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. Exodus 21:17
i know!

that's why it's so startling to read

Mark 7: 10.
For Moses said,
[one of the 10]
Honour thy father and thy mother;
and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death
 

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The 10 commandments (Decalogue) were hand written in the book of the law of Moses.
Matters not.

Verse 14 “Having blotted out the handwriting to the ordinances that is against us, that was contrary to us, and he hath taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.”

It is the handwriting to the ordinances that were blotted out not the ordinances themselves and definitely not the Decalogue.

And mind you it is only those which were against us, not those to which described what righteousness is. Those writings are they which describe the Life which is available to us in Christ Jesus. These and the Decalogue are they which are in our hearts, minds, and mouths though Christ's indwelling.

For GOD has said HE will put HIS Laws; HIS Word; HIS Christ in our hearts, minds, and mouths. That is the Faith in which we preach.

(Heb.8:10; Rom 10:6-8)