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Many of the marginal notes reveal thousands of instances in which the KJV translators were forced to interpret as part of their translation work. The KJV translators were not always certain that they had made the correct interpretation, and hence the marginal note. In the preface of the 1611 they explained that we should not dogmatize on the basis of their interpretation:
"…it hath pleased God in his divine providence, here and there to scatter words and sentences of that difficulty and doubtfulness, not in doctrinal points that concern salvation, (for in such it hath been vouched that the Scriptures are plain) but in matters of less moment … in such a case, doth not a margin do well to admonish the Reader to seek further, and not to conclude or dogmatize upon this or that peremptorily? … They that are wise, had rather have their judments at libery in differences of readings, then to be captivated to one, when it may be the other. "
An exhaustive listing of the marginal notes of the 1611 edition of the King James Bible
In honor of the 400th anniversary of the Authorized Version 1611-2011
These marginal notes are available in scans and published reprints of the 1611, but we believe that listing them all together and in modern spelling makes it much easier to study the notes in depth, or to do quick visual scans. The digital text of the notes allows for keyword searches, among other advantages
An exhaustive listing of the marginal notes of the 1611 edition of the King James Bible | Literatura Bautista
An exhaustive listing of the marginal notes of the 1611 edition of the King James Bible
In honor of the 400th anniversary of the Authorized Version 1611-2011
These marginal notes are available in scans and published reprints of the 1611, but we believe that listing them all together and in modern spelling makes it much easier to study the notes in depth, or to do quick visual scans. The digital text of the notes allows for keyword searches, among other advantages
An exhaustive listing of the marginal notes of the 1611 edition of the King James Bible | Literatura Bautista
Jonah 3
1 And the word of the Lord came unto Jonah the second time, saying,
2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.
3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.
4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
KJV
1 And the word of the Lord came unto Jonah the second time, saying,
2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.
3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.
If it were God's intent to destroy Nineveh, why would He send Jonah to preach repentance?
4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
This can be understood as a sentence or as a warning. If you choose to understand it as a sentence, Why send Jonah?
5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
This appears to be the result God was seeking!
turn and repent [FONT=lucida\ console]יָשׁ֔וּב וְנִחַ֥ם[/FONT] means hold back and pity (or show mercy). [God does NO WRONG and has no need for repentance]
10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
repented of the evil,[FONT=lucida\ console] וַיִּנָּ֣חֶם עַל־ הָרָעָ֛ה[/FONT] means had mercy concerning the adversity. [God neither repents nor does He do evil]
Jonah 3:9-10
9 Who knows? God may yet relent and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish."
10 When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he had compassion and did not bring upon them the destruction he had threatened.
NIV
This is the true sense of the Hebrew!
1 And the word of the Lord came unto Jonah the second time, saying,
2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.
3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.
4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
KJV
1 And the word of the Lord came unto Jonah the second time, saying,
2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.
3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.
If it were God's intent to destroy Nineveh, why would He send Jonah to preach repentance?
4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
This can be understood as a sentence or as a warning. If you choose to understand it as a sentence, Why send Jonah?
5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
This appears to be the result God was seeking!
turn and repent [FONT=lucida\ console]יָשׁ֔וּב וְנִחַ֥ם[/FONT] means hold back and pity (or show mercy). [God does NO WRONG and has no need for repentance]
10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
repented of the evil,[FONT=lucida\ console] וַיִּנָּ֣חֶם עַל־ הָרָעָ֛ה[/FONT] means had mercy concerning the adversity. [God neither repents nor does He do evil]
Jonah 3:9-10
9 Who knows? God may yet relent and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish."
10 When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he had compassion and did not bring upon them the destruction he had threatened.
NIV
This is the true sense of the Hebrew!
God sends warning before destruction. This warning did not include an "if" statement. God did not say, "if you do not repent I will overthrow you." Jonah knew there was a chance that Nineveh would believe the warning of upcoming destruction and in turn repent and cry out to God as their only chance of survival. And that's what they did. This made Jonah upset because he knew God was a God of mercy and would repent of the destruction He said He would do unto Nineveh. This works hand in hand with Jeremiah 18.
7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;
8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
I am not willing to add to or take away from the word of God to fit a man made doctrine. Instead, I choose to fit my belief system into what I read from God's word.
7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;
8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
I am not willing to add to or take away from the word of God to fit a man made doctrine. Instead, I choose to fit my belief system into what I read from God's word.
If the Greek text used a different word to represent the fulfilled Passover, "Easter" might be justified. It doesn't, therefore it isn't. This is not about what word represented the Christian celebration of the fulfilled Passover; it's about which word Luke used... simple as that. The KJV translators added to Scripture the sense of "fulfilled" as it doesn't exist in the Greek text. Though I can't prove it, Herod likely couldn't care less about the Christian view but he would have been well aware of the Jewish holy day.
