Are women allowed to Preach?

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Dino246 said:
The bread you cast upon the waters has returned to you.
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WRONG: I didn't tell her how to address everyone on the site like you did. I merely suggested to her how to properly carry on a conversation with me. That is a big difference. If you are unable to see that, then I am sorry you cannot see it.
 
Dino246 said:
Given that you claim to believe exactly what the Bible says, and since you are so certain that the Bible says that "a woman may not preach unto man within a church", please post the verse that says exactly that.

I suspect you'll reach your 94th birthday before you find the verse.
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Those exact verses I have posted here many times, when you asked this very same question. I have given you the verses many times. You should try going back and reading them. 1 Corinthians 14:34-14:35 and there are others.
 
loyaldisciple said:
Those exact verses I have posted here many times, when you asked this very same question. I have given you the verses many times. You should try going back and reading them. Corinthians 14:34-14:35 and there are others.
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Sir, I suspect your understanding of the word "exactly" does not conform to the standard definition.
 
Dino246 said:
Given that you claim to believe exactly what the Bible says, and since you are so certain that the Bible says that "a woman may not preach unto man within a church", please post the verse that says exactly that.

I suspect you'll reach your 94th birthday before you find the verse.
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1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1 Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church
 
And then there's Jesus' words in Luke 19:40, "I tell you," He answered, "if they remain silent, the very stones will cry out."
 
Dino246 said:
Sir, I suspect your understanding of the word "exactly" does not conform to the standard definition.
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Read the verses. They are extremely clear.

1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1 Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church
 
loyaldisciple said:
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1 Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church
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Perhaps your eyesight is better than mine, but I simply don't see the word, "preach" anywhere in there. That is the exact word you used earlier, isn't it?
 
loyaldisciple said:
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1 Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church
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I learned the sign language way of saying Jesus last week :D

I am not sure which hand goes first, but each index finger in turn
points to the center of the other hand's palm to signify Jesus :)

But language is fluid, isn't it? We say the Bible says something when it is not uttering anything verbally or audibly. We do the same here, I said, you said, he said, she said, when we are typing and tapping away on our keyboards. If women are to remain silent it seems pretty obvious we are not to be preaching in the assembly even if one were to use sign language to communicate :)
 
loyaldisciple said:
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1 Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church
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Can you please expound Paul’s ending words of 1 Corinthians 14 and why he was addressing BOTH brother and sister about being eager to prophecy?

39Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 40But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way.

(Please do not ignore the word “therefore” as it finalizes and recaps Pauls instructions to the disorderly church in Corinth

again pauls main concern was order in the Church for the purpose of unbelievers salvation
 
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Dino246 said:
Perhaps your eyesight is better than mine, but I simply don't see the word, "preach" anywhere in there. That is the exact word you used earlier, isn't it?
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These women weren’t preaching They were calling out and asking questions

thats why Paul said they should remain quiet and ask their husbands at home
 
miknik5 said:
These women weren’t preaching They were calling out and asking questions

thats why Paul said they should remain quiet and ask their husbands at home
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Lol you changed it .
I liked the other spelling better .
I only laugh because I have done that myself lol . Fat fingers an a iPad are a bad mix for me .
Blessings
Bill
 
miknik5 said:
These women weren’t preaching They were calling out and asking questions

thats why Paul said they should remain quiet and ask their husbands at home
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Ah, so! Thus the difference in the Greek translated in Luke 19:40 and here, wherein the similar occurrences do not coincide.
 
Dino246 said:
Perhaps your eyesight is better than mine, but I simply don't see the word, "preach" anywhere in there. That is the exact word you used earlier, isn't it?
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Tell me how the woman is able to preach in the church, when the verse clearly states she is to be silent in the church ? Can you not figure that out for yourself ?

it is a shame for women to speak in the church

When this is true, you tell me how she is going to preach in the church when she cannot speak ?
 
miknik5 said:
Please say that again?

Differently
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Sorry.

Acts 19:40 "I tell you," He said, "if they remain silent, the very stones will cry out."

and 1Corinthians 14:34, "women are to be silent..."

The lexicon shows the Greek to be unrelated in the examples given of other occurrences for each, for which the one is absent as an example of the other.

Not sure if that helped clarify... :o
 
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miknik5 said:
Can you please expound Paul’s ending words of 1 Corinthians 14 and why he was addressing BOTH brother and sister about being eager to prophecy?

39Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 40But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way.

(Please do not ignore the word “therefore” as it finalizes and recaps Pauls instructions to the disorderly church in Corinth

again pauls main concern was order in the Church for the purpose of unbelievers salvation
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Women are free to prophesy, just not unto men in the church. Women can teach other women and children as long as they are not preaching unto the man in church. Women can prophesy and spread the gospel outside of the church also. These things are not going against the word of God, however preaching unto a man inside the church is going against the word of God. It is very clearly explained.
 
Laish said:
Lol you changed it .
I liked the other spelling better .
I only laugh because I have done that myself lol . Fat fingers an a iPad are a bad mix for me .
Blessings
Bill
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I do it all the time. Sometimes I am able to edit in time. Other times I’m not so lucky
 
miknik5 said:
These women weren’t preaching They were calling out and asking questions

thats why Paul said they should remain quiet and ask their husbands at home
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Your reasons for Paul's words do nothing but reflect your worldly opinion. It is clear what he said and it should be heeded. Otherwise one is not going by the book.
 
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