Was Cain the son of the LORD?

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I did not say that the Lord begat Cain, and I certainly did not say that the Lord is an illegitimate father either - all of this is your fantasy...

I'm pretty sure you knew what I meant and are just nitpicking words now.

Hope you feel real clever.
 
I did, in what I wrote down. you are carnal minded and not spiritual. You cannot see what is right in front of you.
I see you are lying. You gave no Scriptures showing Cain and Abel were twins, and you were wrong to say they were born before the fall, also.
 
I can't talk to spiritual blinded people, they cannot see as far as a spiritual person can. You base other people knowledge on your limited knowledge, and the little you know is right in your eyes. KEEP SEEKING.
 
Lets not use any euphemisms here - it means Adam had sex with his wife - nothing more and nothing less...

Ok wordsmith.
Then why wasn't the word begat used?

Interestingly, it also says Cain knew his wife who birthed Enoch.
But all other cases use the word begat.
 
I can't talk to spiritual blinded people, they cannot see as far as a spiritual person can. You base other people knowledge on your limited knowledge, and the little you know is right in your eyes. KEEP SEEKING.

This comes across to me as egomaniacal.
 
I can't talk to spiritual blinded people, they cannot see as far as a spiritual person can. You base other people knowledge on your limited knowledge, and the little you know is right in your eyes. KEEP SEEKING.
Gabriel, it is impossible to get your interpretations from this:
"4 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the Lord.” 2 Then she bore again, this time his brother Abel." Gen 4:1-2

"Now Adam knew Eve his wife" - Adam had sex with his wife...
"and she conceived and bore Cain" - and she became pregnant and bore - gave birth to Cain...
"and said, “I have acquired a man from the Lord.”" - and then made a statement giving praise to God for the fact...
"Then she bore again" - a different event, a different pregnancy...
"this time his brother Abel." - and called him Abel.

If Cain and Abel really were twins it makes no sense to record a single event in the way documented - to bear a pregnancy is just that and two events are recorded...

All of this happened AFTER Adam and his wife were banished from Eden...

Please provide a reference to a different interpretation that 1) insists that Cain and Abel are twins; and 2) that what is recorded in Genesis 4 somehow took place before the events recorded in Genesis chapter 3...
 
Sure explains why the Jews acted the way they did in John 10:30-31
30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.



Be very careful, you speaking about GOD! and not in a good way!
 
There are rumors that this is the case.

And if you interpret Genesis 4:1 of the KJV literally, it confirms the rumors.

"And Adam knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD"

It does not say Adam begat Cain and it says I (Eve) have gotten a man from the LORD.

Pretty simply put isn't it?

I wonder what the folks on these boards might have to say...

Interestingly the gospel was preached and mankind Adam andEve anticipated the coming of the Son of man to restore what was lost. Cain a word giving usthe idea "acquired possession" was there hope. Abel that means vanity shows theymust wait by faith. God had mercy and grace (favor) on Abel but not on Cain.Cain was given the mark of a restless wanderer( 666) natural converted man (.NoSabbath rest) Adam and Eve were required to walk by faith. The idea that Cain was the Son of man to restore them showed their vanity and need to walk by faith and not by sight, the cause of the fall .
 
you are crude?
No - realistic.
I am not a prude and neither is God...

Also keep in mind that the OP is claiming (incorrectly) that it is GOD who had sex with Eve and impregnated her, and therefore, apparently, became an illegitimate father!!!

So perhaps a plain and unambiguous explanation is best...
 
The word begat is used for other generations of Adam in Genesis 5. But it is not used in the births of Cain and Abel.

Begat is what is was. the context is there..."
and she conceived, and bare Cain".To conceive is to begat with the help of the Lord.​
 
Ok wordsmith.
Then why wasn't the word begat used?

Interestingly, it also says Cain knew his wife who birthed Enoch.
But all other cases use the word begat.
That is in English sir . The Hebrew uses the same word in both cases . Do some research.
Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Now in Gen 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
The same word in Hebrew is used in both passages.
ילד
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yâlad
BDB Definition:
1) to bear, bring forth, beget, gender, travail
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to bear, bring forth
1a1a) of child birth
1a1b) of distress (simile)
1a1c) of wicked (behaviour)
1a2) to beget
1b) (Niphal) to be born
1c) (Piel)
1c1) to cause or help to bring forth
1c2) to assist or tend as a midwife
1c3) midwife (participle)
1d) (Pual) to be born
1e) (Hiphil)
1e1) to beget (a child)
1e2) to bear (figuratively - of wicked bringing forth iniquity)
1f) (Hophal) day of birth, birthday (infinitive)
1g) (Hithpael) to declare one’s birth (pedigree)
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: a primitive root
Doing a bit of research helps sir . Please don’t go off on folks when you haven’t equipped your self adequately.
A good Hebrew Bible lexicon dose wonders .
Blessings
Bill

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NO, NO , conceived is impregnating, and bore is giving birth. She thought Cain was the only one until Abel came out. and then she bore again after saying what she said about Cain,not knowing Abel was right behind him. She spoke too soon.
 
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NO, NO , conceived is impregnating, and bore is giving birth. She thought Cain was the only one until Abel came out. and then she bore again after saying what she said about Cain,not knowing Abel was right behind him.
This is an ASSUMPTION!
And no, to bear a pregnancy means to carry a pregnancy, yes one gives birth at the end.
Genesis 4:1 Eve bore a pregnancy - Cain was the result.
Genesis 4:2 Eve bore a second pregnancy - Abel was the result.
Two DIFFERENT pregnancies...
 
NO, NO , conceived is impregnating, and bore is giving birth. She thought Cain was the only one until Abel came out. and then she bore again after saying what she said about Cain,not knowing Abel was right behind him. She spoke too soon.

C
onceiving is impregnating, and to bore is giving birth, and God breathing into the lifeless spiritless flesh is to be begotten of God. It had nothing to do with the first birth . Its the second birth that restores the soul. The Son of man begotten of the father came thousands of years later. Its not the first Adam or generation but the second the generation of Christ.Abel is typified as the second. Just as was Jacob . Esau saw no value in being born again like Cain they exchanged it for the things of this world.. pride.​
 
It would appear that way, but there is no time frame between Cain and Abel. They were still having sex with each other before the fall, but her womb was closed until Seth was born, which is after the fall.