Woman can't teach in the congregation

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Affltr

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HI,

In my opinion, the bible says clearly that woman can't teach in the congregation. Why almost all of the denominations allow the woman to teach? And I think it's not the problem in the denominations only but in the home meetings as well.

King James version:

1. Tim. 2:12
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1. Kor. 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1. Kor. 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Ps. I don't belong to any denomination as the bible clearly says that there is only one congregation in every city. There were no names for congregations with early Christians.
 
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jb

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Affltr said:
HI,

In my opinion, the bible says clearly that woman can't teach in the congregation. Why almost all of the denominations allow the woman to teach? And I think it's not the problem in the denominations only but in the home meetings as well.

King James version:

1. Tim. 2:12
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1. Kor. 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1. Kor. 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Ps. I don't belong to any denomination as the bible clearly says that there is only one congregation in every city. There were no names for congregations with early Christians.
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I see you read the Scriptures "selectively" to suit your wrong teaching, you're certainly no Berean! Acts 17v10-12.

For those "Bereans" you can find a study Here on this contentious subject...
 
jameen

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You forgot that Priscila is one of the female workers of the 1st Century Christian Church. so women can preach but they cannot lead the Christian Church like Peter and Paul.
 
OneFaith

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Affltr said:
HI,

In my opinion, the bible says clearly that woman can't teach in the congregation. Why almost all of the denominations allow the woman to teach? And I think it's not the problem in the denominations only but in the home meetings as well.

King James version:

1. Tim. 2:12
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1. Kor. 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1. Kor. 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Ps. I don't belong to any denomination as the bible clearly says that there is only one congregation in every city. There were no names for congregations with early Christians.
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Agreed, and not by our opinion, the bible says women are not to teach over the men of the congregation. They are called to teach the younger women though, children, and non-Christians.

To your PS, yes there is only one genuine church, with many congregations therein. But in the new testament they were sometimes called The Way or The Church of Christ.

"One Lord, one Faith, one baptism."
 
Demi777

Demi777

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Study in the original language and you will see its not about woman teaching
 
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Affltr

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OneFaith said:
To your PS, yes there is only one genuine church, with many congregations therein. But in the new testament they were sometimes called The Way or The Church of Christ."
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Can you show me verses where they were called "the way or to the church of Christ"?
 
Dino246

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This subject gets re-opened, usually by newcomers to CC, about every two to three months. At times the discussion goes on for many pages... sometimes over a hundred. Those who start the threads rarely learn anything, because typically their minds are already made up and they are here to browbeat others with their understanding. So, here we go again.

Typically, the context of the contentious passages is completely ignored, if it is considered at all. Paul was writing to the Corinthians about disorderly meetings and use of gifts. He wrote to Timothy about the cultural context in which Timothy was ministering. Ignore the context, and you will likely conclude from the selected verses that Paul was against female leadership, as the OP has.

Sadly, the OP is just more fulfillment of the words God spoke to Eve... 'but he will rule over you'. So many people take this as a command (which it most definitely isn't) or as warrant for male leadership(again, it isn't).

Anyway, I'll make a pot of coffee and wait for the OP to present an original thought. It might be a while.
 
DustyRhodes

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jb said:
I see you read the Scriptures "selectively" to suit your wrong teaching, you're certainly no Berean! Acts 17v10-12.

For those "Bereans" you can find a study Here on this contentious subject...
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DustyRhodes

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Both Jesus and Paul knew that rules and requirements were just to get you seriously engaged with the need for grace and mercy; they were never an end in themselves. The New Testament is not a book of rules as Jesus clearly states
love fulfils all the law. Later on Paul states that the law was our guardian
until we came under grace. To make laws out of the New Testament is a
total misunderstanding of the New Testament and The Old Testament. In
any situation even in the secular world, the law is the minimum of understanding.
 
OneFaith

OneFaith

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Affltr said:
Can you show me verses where they were called "the way or to the church of Christ"?
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Called Christians- Acts 11:26
Called The Way- Acts 9:2
Called Churches of Christ- Romans 16:16
 
jimd

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News Flash: Men who do not rule over their wife should not teach. Theology 101.
 
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UnderGrace

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DustyRhodes said:
Both Jesus and Paul knew that rules and requirements were just to get you seriously engaged with the need for grace and mercy; they were never an end in themselves. The New Testament is not a book of rules as Jesus clearly states
love fulfils all the law. Later on Paul states that the law was our guardian
until we came under grace. To make laws out of the New Testament is a
total misunderstanding of the New Testament and The Old Testament. In
any situation even in the secular world, the law is the minimum of understanding.
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Indeed, this has been the great tragedy of 2000 years of Christianity.
 
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UnderGrace

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Affltr said:
HI,

In my opinion, the bible says clearly that woman can't teach in the congregation. Why almost all of the denominations allow the woman to teach? And I think it's not the problem in the denominations only but in the home meetings as well.

King James version:

1. Tim. 2:12
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1. Kor. 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1. Kor. 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Ps. I don't belong to any denomination as the bible clearly says that there is only one congregation in every city. There were no names for congregations with early Christians.
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Do a deep deep study on context, history and linguistics and Greek words and meanings and you might learn something new.:)
 
Magenta

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jimd said:
News Flash: Men who do not rule over their wife should not teach. Theology 101.
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Men are supposed to submit to their wives too :) Theology 101.

Submit yourselves to one another because of your reverence for Christ. Ephesians 5:21
 
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The first pic is the hamster wheel thread started once more.
The second pic is of me stuffing my cheeks so I won't get on the hamster wheel.
 
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