Not By Works

[theanointedsinner]

Titus 3:5 cleary states "he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy."

and yet "faith without work is dead"

sometimes I wonder ... or Paul would wonder on 1 Cor 1:10-13

I appeal to you, brothers and sisters,[a] in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[b]”; still another, “I follow Christ.”


13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

 

[VCO]

Hi VCO,

I am sure that wherever God takes you to he will surely use you.
I read all your posts and you bring so much to the table.

I read the Doctrinal Statement.
It is sound and solid.

There is one thing that I don't understand.
So I would appreciate your thoughts on it. So I have bolded it.

• Sanctification

We believe sanctification, a setting-apart unto God, involves both the work of God and the will of man (Phil. 2:12-13). Sanctification is threefold: positional, progressive, and ultimate. It is positional, for every believer is in Christ and therefore identical with Christ's position before God (1 Cor. 6:11; Col. 3:1-4; Heb. 10:10). We believe, however, that he retains his sin nature (flesh), which cannot be eradicated in this life. Therefore, while the standing of the believer in Christ is perfect, his present state is no more perfect than his experience in daily life. Therefore, a believer experiences progressive sanctification, growing in grace and becoming changed by the unhindered power of the Spirit (John 17:17; Rom. 6:19; 2 Cor. 7:1). Ultimate sanctification will occur when the believer sees the Lord and becomes "like Him" (1 Thess. 5:23; 1 John 2:28-3:3).

I believe Jesus physically rose from the dead and physically ascended to heaven.
But between those two events he appeared and dissapeared.

I'm imagining DC shaking his head here whilst in his hands and saying "Oh Bill, Bill how many times do I have to explain it?

But I do know he will keep on doing it regardless. Thanks DC, love you Bro.

So if sin resides in the flesh our sin nature yet we sin where on earth does it come from? Paul says it's not me sinning but what is in my flesh.

I'm not expecting you to answer that but I can't understand Jesus sitting at the right hand of the Father with his sin nature (flesh)

Maybe you explain it to me.
Not sure I will get it but want to try and get it.

He had NO SIN IN HIM, but we do.

1 John 3:5 (ASV)
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away sins; and in him is no sin.

The sin nature is the one we inherited from ADAM.

Romans 7:25 (NIV)
25 Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.

Romans 5:15 (NCV)
15 But God’s free gift is not like Adam’s sin. Many people died because of the sin of that one man. But the grace from God was much greater; many people received God’s gift of life by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ.


In the verse everyone was talking about last night, in 1 John 3:9, it is the HABITUAL LIFESTYLE OF SIN that We can have victory over. But the SIN NATURE, remains, until we get that Glorified Body that cannot even think sin. Yes as Dr. MacArthur puts it, "A Christian is not Sinless, but as he or she matures spiritually, they WILL sin less, and less, and less." For those who think they do not sin, they do not recognize that the word CONFESS in 1 John 1:9 is in the Present Tense in the GREEK implying that the nature of a true Christian is to Confess every new sin they find in this Body that has a Sin Nature in it, until we get the GLORIFIED BODY.

 

[theanointedsinner]

does James 1:14 mean that the sin nature in us is nothing more than mere temptation, no matter how powerful it may be? since Gal 2:20 said that Christians have their old self crucified with Christ?

 

[PS]

You quote this scripture:
1 John 2:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
First of all, how do we know that someone has truly been baptized of the Holy Spirit (knows him)?
The answer is: that person keeps the commandments that Jesus taught us.

Obedience is good, but where is the manifestation of the gifts?

1Co 12:1-11 KJV
(1) Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
(2) Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
(3) Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
(4) Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
(5) And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
(6) And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
(7) But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
(8) For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
(9) To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
(10) To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
(11) But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

 

[PS]

It’s not.

We demonstrate our love for God by loving people.

• inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’

Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
Matthew 25:44-45
JPT

You have not addressed anything I said and neither have you answered my question that was designed to make you think. Suffice it to say that our love for others is manifest by the things we do for people. The verses you quote speak of 'doing,' and this is what I call "Practical Christianity." I'm not criticising, I do agree with much of what you say.

 

[PS]

If Jesus were God the Father, why did Jesus, the Son of God the Father, have to ask God the Father to give him glory? Since we know God gave him the glory that Jesus, the son of God the Father asked for, he question is: when God the Father gave Jesus, the son of God some of his glory, did that diminish God the Fathers glory. The answer is no, in fact it increased it.

Don't forget that Jesus was God manifest in the flesh and he often spoke like a man.

 

[PS]

Thank you for the clarification.

Isaiah42:8
"I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.

Then under the New Covenant Jesus set the Holy Spirit to be with us.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

romans 3


20Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

25Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

26To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

27Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.



1 John 3:4
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


.......


i hope God opens your eyes


you who believe eternal salvation isnt a gift to ALL who BELIEVE in Christ by grace

 

[Seohce]

romans 3


20Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

25Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

26To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

27Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.



1 John 3:4
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


.......


i hope God opens your eyes


you who believe eternal salvation isnt a gift to ALL who BELIEVE in Christ by grace

Romans 10 : 8-21
8 But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming:
9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
11 As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile--the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,
13 for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."
14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?
15 And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"
16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, "Lord, who has believed our message?"
17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.
18 But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did: "Their voice has gone out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world."
19 Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses says, "I will make you envious by those who are not a nation; I will make you angry by a nation that has no understanding."
20 And Isaiah boldly says, "I was found by those who did not seek me; I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me."
21 But concerning Israel he says, "All day long I have held out my hands to a DISOBEDIENT and OBSTINATE PEOPLE

 

[Seohce]

Romans 10 : 8-21
8 But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming:
9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
11 As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile--the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,
13 for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."
14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?
15 And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"
16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, "Lord, who has believed our message?"
17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.
18 But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did: "Their voice has gone out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world."
19 Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses says, "I will make you envious by those who are not a nation; I will make you angry by a nation that has no understanding."
20 And Isaiah boldly says, "I was found by those who did not seek me; I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me."
21 But concerning Israel he says, "All day long I have held out my hands to a DISOBEDIENT and OBSTINATE PEOPLE

WHERE DID YOU LEARN YOUR DOCTRINE FROM?

FROM DC OR FROM GOD?

HERE'S WHAT JESUS YOUR LORD SAID:

Matthew 19 : 16-26
16 Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?"
17 "Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."
18 "Which ones?" the man inquired.
19 Jesus replied, "'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'"
20 "All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack?"
21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?"
26 Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."


Galatians 6 : 7-10
7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
9 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.
10 Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.

NOW,WHO WOULD YOU BELIEVE?

 

[Seohce]

WHERE DID YOU LEARN YOUR DOCTRINE FROM?

FROM DC OR FROM GOD?

HERE'S WHAT JESUS YOUR LORD SAID:

Matthew 19 : 16-26
16 Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?"
17 "Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."
18 "Which ones?" the man inquired.
19 Jesus replied, "'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'"
20 "All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack?"
21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?"
26 Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."


Galatians 6 : 7-10
7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
9 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.
10 Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.

NOW,WHO WOULD YOU BELIEVE?

HERE'S WHAT HE SAID:


Matthew 19 : 16-30
16 Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?"
17 "Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."
18 "Which ones?" the man inquired.
19 Jesus replied, "'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'"
20 "All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack?"
21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?"
26 Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
27 Peter answered him, "We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?"
28 Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

 

[dcontroversal]

I thought I addressed this in a post a page or so back. Maybe you haven't read it.
Please go see it.
One thing I do know about you is that you do respond to replies to your posts.
But I have not seen a response to it.

I believe we are positionally sanctified based on genuine faith.
This side of eternity we will not be ultimately sanctified because we can't.
But I do believe that as a result of genuine faith in Jesus and set apart we seek to be like Jesus.

My prayers every day and focus is "Jesus I want to be like you"

Nothing more or nothing less.

Amen....Hebrews--->positionally sanctified in Christ eternally........SAVED, Sealed, justified and Sanctified In Christ eternally by faith, kept by the power of God, saved to the uttermost, irrevocable gift,sustained by the power, promises and faith of Christ......even if we believe not AFTER we have believed he ABIDES faithful because HE cannot DENY HIMSELF <---HIS blood and righteousness applied by faith

 

[dcontroversal]

Precisely. BUT doing good works for the purpose of getting, keeping or maintaining salvation, are works that are done in vain. Works don't and will not save us.

We are to do them for the purpose of obeying God and His command to show HIS love to OTHERS, through US. That is why we do good works.

But if we do good works for the selfish purpose of getting or keeping salvation, then those works are moot in the eyes of God.

Two lines of thought boiled down....

SAVED eternally by faith without ONE work to gain, keep maintain or top off salvation <---TRUE GOSPEL

SAVED by faith plus works, which must be gained, maintained, keep or topped off with works <---FALSE GOSPEL with NO POWER TO SAVE

 

[dcontroversal]

If you could clarify ultimately sanctfied then I can answer, because I have no idea what your saying

Sanctification is dual in usage.....

a. SANCTIFIED positionally and eternally in Christ at the moment of belief
b. Sanctified in our daily life which is a process of growth and maturity, subject to successes and failures and will be rewarded accordingly (misthos-->pay or wages<--reward)

 

[NoNameMcgee]

WHERE DID YOU LEARN YOUR DOCTRINE FROM?

FROM DC OR FROM GOD?

God



John 11:26

“And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”

 

[Seohce]

HERE'S WHAT HE SAID:


Matthew 19 : 16-30
16 Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?"
17 "Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."
18 "Which ones?" the man inquired.
19 Jesus replied, "'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'"
20 "All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack?"
21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?"
26 Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
27 Peter answered him, "We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?"
28 Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
30 But many who are first will be last, and many wh & THE OTHERS AT are last will be first.

JPT BENHUR PS, AND THE OTHERS HAVE FAITH JUST LIKE YOU, THEN WHY DO YOU CONDEMN THEM FOR DISAGREEING WITH YOUR BELIEFS WHILE CLAIMING THAT FAITH ALONE SAVES? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND OR JUST TOO PROUD?

WAKE UP!!;!!!

 

[dcontroversal]

Titus 3:5 cleary states "he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy."

and yet "faith without work is dead"

sometimes I wonder ... or Paul would wonder on 1 Cor 1:10-13

I appeal to you, brothers and sisters,[a] in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[b]”; still another, “I follow Christ.”


13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

There is no contradiction between Paul and James.....

Paul--->We conclude an man is justified by faith WITHOUT the DEEDS/WORKS of the law
James-->Our faith justified by works

Paul--->BEFORE GOD JUSTIFIED by faith without works
James-->The above faith justified before and seen by MEN based upon our works

The catastrophic failure in doctrine which equates into a false gospel is when one takes faith which saves and embellishes the message into a faith plus works to save which is false....

 

[NoNameMcgee]

HERE'S WHAT HE SAID:


Matthew 19 : 16-30
16 Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?"
17 "Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."
18 "Which ones?" the man inquired.
19 Jesus replied, "'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'"
20 "All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack?"
21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?"
26 Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
27 Peter answered him, "We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?"
28 Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

the principal youre missing when you read matthew

vvvvv

matthew 19

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

_________

Jesus was telling this man how to be perfect

this man believed his works regarding the commandments were perfect (including loving his neighbor as himself)

Jesus is saying ohhhhh is that so?

then give up all your things and follow me
(to expose where this mans heart really was.... it is not evil to have possessions)


22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

____________



again same principal

Luke 10
25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
(again a man looking to be justified by works)
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
(this man believes he actually does this fully)
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
(Jesus says knowing this man is self righteous yaaa thats all you need then if you are correct)
29 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?
(as if he truely does this knowing Jesus does not believe him asks ohhh who is my neighbor maybe i am wrong mockingly)


30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.

31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.

32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.

33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,

34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.

35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.

36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?

37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

____________


that amount of money
as well as offering for excess was .... a lot of money at that time....

this exposes that man who believed he was doing these things is actually wrong......

he does not love his enemy as himself as he ought to in order to be perfect

let alone his literal neighbor....
people try to take and mix up

reproof

instruction for righteousness

the law

and works

and try to say a man needs more than grace and faith to be saved (which isnt true)

 

[NoNameMcgee]

JPT BENHUR PS, AND THE OTHERS HAVE FAITH JUST LIKE YOU, THEN WHY DO YOU CONDEMN THEM FOR DISAGREEING WITH YOUR BELIEFS WHILE CLAIMING THAT FAITH ALONE SAVES? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND OR JUST TOO PROUD?

WAKE UP!!;!!!

oh im awake

romans 9

30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.

31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

32 Wherefore? Because they sought itnot by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.



now please pray God will open your eyes to the truth of His grace and love for His children

 

[dcontroversal]

does James 1:14 mean that the sin nature in us is nothing more than mere temptation, no matter how powerful it may be? since Gal 2:20 said that Christians have their old self crucified with Christ?

Why is it so hard for people to understand the truth.....Jesus said to his saved, immersed, disciples (apostles) that the spirit is indeed willing, but the flesh is weak......

We have a born again, saved, justified spirit that is born of incorruptable seed that is eternally secure in Christ HOUSED in a dead weak body of sin that is not subject unto the word of GOD, the battle ground for control is the mind and if it is NOT transformed (Romans 12) we will struggle with sin, failures etc. our whole life....if it is transformed we will surrender more often than not to the Spirit and walk in a manner that pleases the LORD...NONE are without sin and or failures and JOHN speaks to this and includes himself....

John who walked with JESUS, was an apostle, wrote almost 1/5th of the New Testament, was the disciple who JESUS loved stated clearly....

IF WE say that WE have NO sin, WE are deceived and the truth is NOT IN US. <-----PRESENT TENSE