Why divorce is NOT the unforgivable / unpadorable sin
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Blasphemy like plagiarism, takes the authority of one and gives it to another . Therefore usurping the original authority , a violation of the first commandment .Making gods in the image of men
Although I realize it not the most popular interpretation . The best example of the spirit of the antichrist (singular) Satan working the hearts of men, Peter, as one of the many antichrists (plural) used to take away the teaching authority of God is shown with Peter the serial denier . showing us it is a offence to God not seen . Peter who did not deny himself but in false pride went above that which is written forbid Christ from finishing his work .
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, (not seen) but those that be of men.(seen) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me Mathew 16:22-24
Because the Son of man, Jesus as seen, a man ….who refused to be called good teacher/master knowing one is our master, not seen
But gave glory to God unseen . Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy
Matthew 12:31Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men (the Son of man seen) : but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (not seen) shall not be forgiven
We walk by faith not by sight.
Having the faith of Christ in respect to men seen is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit .
We can se that in the opening context of James 2:1.
Some paraphases turn that upside down by replacing the word of (coming from) with in (going towards) destroying the outcome blasphemy.
The loving commandment reads
My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. (seen) James 2:1
Showing the end of the matter in verse 7.Destroying the imputed righteousness of Christ freely given to Abraham and Rebab .
Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?James 2:7
Blasphemy like plagiarism, takes the authority of one and gives it to another . Therefore usurping the original authority , a violation of the first commandment .Making gods in the image of men
Although I realize it not the most popular interpretation . The best example of the spirit of the antichrist (singular) Satan working the hearts of men, Peter, as one of the many antichrists (plural) used to take away the teaching authority of God is shown with Peter the serial denier . showing us it is a offence to God not seen . Peter who did not deny himself but in false pride went above that which is written forbid Christ from finishing his work .
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, (not seen) but those that be of men.(seen) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me Mathew 16:22-24
Because the Son of man, Jesus as seen, a man ….who refused to be called good teacher/master knowing one is our master, not seen
But gave glory to God unseen . Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy
Matthew 12:31Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men (the Son of man seen) : but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (not seen) shall not be forgiven
We walk by faith not by sight.
Having the faith of Christ in respect to men seen is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit .
We can se that in the opening context of James 2:1.
Some paraphases turn that upside down by replacing the word of (coming from) with in (going towards) destroying the outcome blasphemy.
The loving commandment reads
My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. (seen) James 2:1
Showing the end of the matter in verse 7.Destroying the imputed righteousness of Christ freely given to Abraham and Rebab .
Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?James 2:7
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No, the unforgivable sin is actually described in scripture.
Mark 3:22-30 (NASB77)
22 And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, "He is possessed by Beelzebul," and " He casts out the demons by the ruler of the demons."
23 And He called them to Himself and began speaking to them in parables, "How can Satan cast out Satan?
24 "And if a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
25 "And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand.
26 "And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but he is finished!
27 " But no one can enter the strong man's house and plunder his property unless he first binds the strong man, and then he will plunder his house.
28 " Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter;
29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin"--
30 because they were saying, "He has an unclean spirit."
Mark 3:22-30 (NASB77)
22 And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, "He is possessed by Beelzebul," and " He casts out the demons by the ruler of the demons."
23 And He called them to Himself and began speaking to them in parables, "How can Satan cast out Satan?
24 "And if a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
25 "And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand.
26 "And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but he is finished!
27 " But no one can enter the strong man's house and plunder his property unless he first binds the strong man, and then he will plunder his house.
28 " Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter;
29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin"--
30 because they were saying, "He has an unclean spirit."
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Sometimes I believe God lets it all go bad and feel horrible as an answer to that prayer. "Help yourself with a divorce!"
We who are Christian at the time we marry understand and likely recall the scripture that is included in some marriage vows. "What God hath joined together let no one separate."
And yet, are we sure God joined us together? Was it God saying, accept that proposal?
Or , was it our own desires for that person proposing?
I hold no judgment on someone who divorces their spouse. "Till death us do part."
There are many ways to die living in a bad marriage.
And maybe that it is bad and getting worse no matter what is done to try to save it, it could be that those conditions worsening are God's answer to that prayer as to whether or not one should remain married. And that so that we can find the one God does intend for us.
Because Jesus saves souls. Maybe we're suppose to save ourselves from bad relationship.
We who are Christian at the time we marry understand and likely recall the scripture that is included in some marriage vows. "What God hath joined together let no one separate."
And yet, are we sure God joined us together? Was it God saying, accept that proposal?
Or , was it our own desires for that person proposing?
I hold no judgment on someone who divorces their spouse. "Till death us do part."
There are many ways to die living in a bad marriage.
And maybe that it is bad and getting worse no matter what is done to try to save it, it could be that those conditions worsening are God's answer to that prayer as to whether or not one should remain married. And that so that we can find the one God does intend for us.
Because Jesus saves souls. Maybe we're suppose to save ourselves from bad relationship.
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Thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately, you've employed a logical fallacy called "affirming the consequent". In order to avoid it when explaining "blasphemy" you would probably need to start with a verse that actually has the word, "blasphemy" or at least a cognate of it. 
I would offer first things first as to remember our 20/20 prescription that gives light as spiritual understanding hid in parables. refered to as the dark looking glass or called hidden manna. Especially in doctrines like blasphemy,
Today we have the perfect will or law of God with no laws missing by which we could know God more adequately, a will sealed up till the end of time.
2 Corinthians 4:18 describes the "law of faith" a interpreting factor needed when studying according to the commandment to show oneself approved unto God . In Hebrew 4 it is referred to as mixing faith
While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are "temporal"; but the things which are not seen are eternal.2 Corinthians 4:18
Blasphemy is accrediting the work of one person to another and can be likened, as plagiarism usurping the original author intent.
Blasphemy comes when men accredit the invisible things of God not seen to men. Men by the spirit of the antichist Satan usurping the things not seen as if they were visable
God will not be worshiped by the things seen. It violates the first and second commandment. Ee are reminded of that kind of blasphemy that violates the commandments of God in Romans 1:25
Note .....(Purple in parenthesis) my added comment.
Who changed the truth of God (not seen) into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature (the temporal seen) more than the Creator (the eternal not seen) , who is blessed for ever. Amen Romans 1:25
It is those who oppose the gospel (Romans 1:17) blaspheming the unseen eternal authority of God. Not mixing faith by comparing the spiritual unseen understanding, to the same. The imputed righteousness, not of our own selves.
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. Romans 1:17(Christ's work of faith, not seen)
Matthew 12:31-32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: (seen the temporal ,Son of man) but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (not seen the eternal) shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, (the eternal not seen it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy a perfect example as shown in Mathew 16:22-24, and other places where he denied Christ in respect to the Son of Man, Jesus while he was here. Today and for the last over two thousand years blasphemy against the Holy Spirit not seen is not forgiven.
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God,(not seen the eternal) but those that be of men. (that seen the temporal ) Mathew 16:22-23
In that way we must "mix faith" the unseen etrnal of God in His parables the signified language of God
