LIONS AND WOLVES AND FALSE PROPHETS OH MY

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Nehemiah6

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Of course, the first thing the devil did was substitute another Sabbath, and why not use the one the sun worshipers used. During Constantine's life Rome was converted to Christianity, and he also made it mandatory throughout the empire
And what do you think was happening between the 1st and 4th centuries? The Lord's Day was being observed throughout that time, and Justin Martyr in the 2nd century has provided written testimony.

Blaming Constantine and the day of the sun is just an SDA tactic to claim preposterously that worshipping on Sunday = taking the Mark of the Beast!

But every day of the week is dedicated to a pagan god, so we could call the Sabbatarians Saturn worshippers (if that would make any sense).
 

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How can the first day of the week be perpetrated by Satan when the apostles and the apostolic churches had made it the day of Christian rest and worship?
Nope.

ACTS 20 [7] And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.[8] And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together.

The above scripture is used by the many to convince people that sunday was being kept as a day of rest instead of the sabbath during the time of Paul. They will point out that on the first day of the week they came together to “break bread” and thus the believers of Pauls time were following sunday as the “new testament” day of rest.

ACTS 2 [42] And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.[43] And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.[44] And all that believed were together, and had all things common;[45] And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.[46] And they, CONTINUING DAILY with one accord in the temple, AND BREAKING BREAD from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

But as you can see they “broke bread” daily. Not just on the first day of the week. They were simply eating. The fact is, you will find no where in the new testament anyone keeping sunday as a day of rest.

LUKE 4 [14] And JESUS returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.[15] And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.[16] And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, AS HIS CUSTOM WAS, he WENT INTO THE SYNAGOGUE ON THE SABBATH DAY, and stood up for to read.

JESUS kept the sabbath

ACTS 17 [2] AND PAUL, AS HIS MANNER WAS, went in unto them, and three SABBATH DAYS reasoned with them out of the scriptures,[3] Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.

PAUL kept the sabbath

ACTS 13 [42] And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, THE GENTILES BESOUGHT THAT THESE WORDS MIGHT BE PREACHED TO THEM THE NEXT SABBATH.[43] Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.[44] And THE NEXT SABBATH DAY CAME ALMOST THE WHOLE CITY TOGETHER TO HEAR THE WORD OF GOD.

GENTILES come together on the sabbath to hear the WORD.

Can anyone show me in scripture where the Word of God actually changes or does away with the sabbath day of rest? Anywhere in the new testament? How about in the old testament? Anywhere?

ACTS 25 [7] And when he was come, the Jews which came down from Jerusalem stood round about, and laid many and grievous complaints against Paul, which they could not prove. [8] While he answered for himself, NEITHER AGAINST THE LAW OF THE JEWS, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar, HAVE I OFFENDED ANY THING AT ALL.

During the time of Paul there were also many who accused Paul, saying he was not keeping Gods law (which includes the sabbath). Just as it is today, nobody seems to be able to prove that.
 

shrume

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Why don't you get properly acquainted with the Day of the LORD before you post again? Indeed get properly acquainted with New Testament truth, since you are quite confused about the New Covenant.

The day of the LORD is a period of divine wrath and judgment.

The Lord's Day is for Christians to be in the Spirit and to hear the voice of Christ.

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet... (Rev 1:10).
Wall is right on this. The "day of the Lord" is the "Lord's day". John received revelation concerning the end times, the "Lord's day", the "day of the Lord". That's what the book of Revelation is about. The "Lord's day" has nothing to do with Sunday.
 
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When Constantius Chlorus (Constantine's father) was made emperor they still had a ban on Christians. Constantius did not enforce while in the field. He was made emperor while he was in Scotland and he never made it alive out of there to go back and rule. His men appointed Constantine as his successor but Rome had other ideas.

Eventually Constantine winds up in a battle with Maxentius to win the spot of emperor. He, like his father, favored Christianity. Constantine had a vision of a burning cross right before his battle with Maxentius. Above the cross were the words En Hoc Signo Vinces, which means “In this sign conquer.” He therefore fought the battle in the name of the Christian God. His victory caused him to convert to Christianity.

In 313, Constantine issued the Edict of Milan, giving Christians the right to practice their religion. He urges his followers to become Christians, like him. In 321, Constantine issued an edict forbidding work on Sunday. In 323, he defeated the eastern emperor; and became the sole emperor of the east and west. In 324, he established Christianity as the state religion. :cool:
You do realize that this account is from a Biography of Constantine Produced by Eusebius, a 4th century Christian Historian and Polemicist? Allegedly he heard all of these accounts first hand from Constantine. Talk about biased sources! Another "Church Father" doctoring history.

The persecution is more of a myth than anything else. Except during Diocletian's "term", which he did persecute Christians (Predecessor to Constantine) , Galerius (Caesar under Diocletian) upon death halted the persecution because the whole point was to bring back the people to the traditional customs of the time, but the Christians refused.

You need to understand that Politics and "Religion" in those days went hand in hand. In those days an opposition to "Religious" affairs was seen as resistance to the state, similar to you trying to start an anarchist movement in modern america, you'd be "persecuted" and imprisoned for your crimes.

If you think that the persecution started much earlier (1st century with Paul and Peter being killed and Christians blamed for the great fire of 64) then you are subject to mainstream historical myth. There are very few accounts in which Christians are mentioned during those times. (Look into Pliny the Younger)

There is a whole lot more to this, and this information is from various books I've read on the subject, I recommend you look past the biased view and arm yourself with real sources if you want to talk history.
 

Nehemiah6

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That's what the book of Revelation is about. The "Lord's day" has nothing to do with Sunday.
And yet Christians have observed the Lord's Day as the Christian Sabbath for ages, and still do. Check any reliable commentary on Revelation 1:10.

You both are wrong since Scripture is very precise. John was visited by the Lord on the Lord's Day so don't try to make it mean something else. Had the Holy Spirit meant "the day of the Lord" He would have stated it exactly as that specific phrase, as noted below.

Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. (Joel 2:1,2)

ACTS 2
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:


2 PETER 3
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
 

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The early Christians should have seen this coming. They were actually givin many warnings about the bad guys and what they would do. The warnings are all around the new testament.

1 PETER 5 [8] Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a ROARING LION, walketh about, SEEKING WHOM HE MAY DEVOUR:

ROARING LIONS! The bad guys

MATT.7 [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.[15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are RAVENING WOLVES.

FALSE PROPHETS! They are RAVENING WOLVES. “The many” will follow these false prophets and but a few will take the way of life.

ACTS 20 [29] For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous WOLVES ENTER IN among you, not sparing the flock.[30] Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, TO DRAW AWAY DISCIPLES after them.

The GRIEVOUS WOLVES been hangin round from the beginning

EPH.4 [17] This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth WALK NOT AS OTHER GENTILES walk, in the VANITY of their mind,[18] Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:[19] Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all UNCLEANNESS with GREEDINESS.

All these warnings from the new testament are found in one scripture. “Day of the Lord” scriptures are not about ancient Israel. That day has not yet come. Day of the Lord scriptures do apply to christians (those who believe that Jesus came) and these scriptures will come to pass. To see what these ROARING LIONS and RAVENOUS WOLVES have done, simply read and believe the Word.

EZEK.22 [23] And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,[24] Son of man, say unto her, Thou art the land that is not cleansed, nor rained upon in the day of indignation.[25] There is A CONSPIRACY OF HER PROPHETS in the midst thereof, like a ROARING LION ravening the prey; THEY HAVE DEVOURED SOULS; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.[26] HER PRIESTS HAVE VIOLATED MY LAW, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the UNCLEAN AND THE CLEAN, and HAVE HID THEIR EYES FROM MY SABBATHS, and I am profaned among them.[27] Her princes in the midst thereof are like WOLVES RAVENING THE PREY, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get DISHONEST GAIN.[28] And her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, SEEING VANITY, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken

A conspiracy of the prophets. HID THEIR EYES FROM MY SABBATHS! They meant to do it and they sure did pull it off despite the warnings. Up until the printing press, bibles were pretty scarce but even if someone discovered the Ezek.22 scripture Im sure the powers that be would have silenced that someone. Short of going before the wizard....How did these bad guys pull this off? No stawman jokes please.

We need to rightly divide the Word- not drag old testament laws into the new testament. In the old testament God's laws were practiced physically, but in the new testament God's laws are practiced spiritually. If you are going to obey any part of the physical law under Moses, you must obey all of it- that is what the bible says. Where is your high priest to sacrifice animals? Do you take adulterers outside the city and stone them to death? We practice the Sabbath rest spiritually- it is called the peace that surpasses understanding, not a physical rest on a physical day.
 

shrume

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And yet Christians have observed the Lord's Day as the Christian Sabbath for ages, and still do. Check any reliable commentary on Revelation 1:10.
It's tradition, and not the word of God. And for that matter, it does not matter what day we worship on, or even that we set aside a particular day.

You both are wrong since Scripture is very precise. John was visited by the Lord on the Lord's Day so don't try to make it mean something else. Had the Holy Spirit meant "the day of the Lord" He would have stated it exactly as that specific phrase, as noted below.
While it is referred to as the "day of the Lord" more times than it is referred to as the "Lord's day", both phrases are referring to the same thing: the end times.
 

JaumeJ

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Where in the new testament does Jesus instruct Christians to rest on Saturday? What about Paul? What does he have to say?
Did He not instruct to keep the commandments of God? He did not rescind any of the Ten, only man idd. You are reaching and verging on a precipice of error.
 

JaumeJ

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How can the first day of the week be perpetrated by Satan when the apostles and the apostolic churches had made it the day of Christian rest and worship? More evil-speaking without substance.

Today only unbelieving Jews observe the 7th day Sabbath. And of course Sabbatarians, who cannot even obey the rest of the laws in the Old Covenant.

EXODUS 35
1 And Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said unto them, These are the words which the LORD hath commanded, that ye should do them.

2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

Was this a commandment of the Old Covenant? Absolutely

Is this a commandment of the New Covenant? Absolutely not. (Check out Acts 15)

HERE IS THE NEW COVENANT
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Col 2:16,17)

Sabbatarians prefer shadows over the reality of Christ. Very, very sad.

Again, dangerously tclose to that precipice........All who believe Jesus Christ are fellow heirs with Israel, ergo we are the Israel of God.

New Jerusalem, that sone of the free woman , is our capital to come down, actually, to be brought down by our Maker in His time.

When you quote scripture be certain to know what you are saying by means of the Holy Spirit and not by a "vote" of a few men.......even all mankind voting cannot change the Word that is Jesus.
 

JaumeJ

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Jesus teaches us t obey the commandments of God. He IS God. He has taught us since Genesis right up to the final Amen of Revelation.

Please do not bring vain arguments to other men, take your questions to God. I do not just repeat this, I do it.
 
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Did He not instruct to keep the commandments of God? He did not rescind any of the Ten, only man idd. You are reaching and verging on a precipice of error.
So you are saying you do not agree with Paul then? Are we to be circumcised too? I think I'd rather go to hell then.
 

JaumeJ

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So you are saying you do not agree with Paul then? Are we to be circumcised too? I think I'd rather go to hell then.
You must study the Word prayerfully.

The commandments of God are covered throughout the Word, but inorder to understand them you must be taught by the Holy Spirit.

Do you understand when Jesus told the hypocrites they must apply the law with faith, mercy and justice? If you did you would not be so heartless and cruel as to accuse those who know what you are attempting to hang on them........ Watch the accusations and learn the law and the commandments as taught by Jesus Christ and do not fault others who have learned and do understand.
 
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You must study the Word prayerfully.

The commandments of God are covered throughout the Word, but inorder to understand them you must be taught by the Holy Spirit.

Do you understand when Jesus told the hypocrites they must apply the law with faith, mercy and justice? If you did you would not be so heartless and cruel as to accuse those who know what you are attempting to hang on them........ Watch the accusations and learn the law and the commandments as taught by Jesus Christ and do not fault others who have learned and do understand.
Not faulting anyone. It's just that when I read this:

Matthew 5
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


and then this:


Galatians 3
O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.

5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:



So what do I do? Throw out the words of Paul or Jesus?
 

JaumeJ

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Not faulting anyone. It's just that when I read this:

Matthew 5
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.


18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

and then this:


Galatians 3
O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?


2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.

5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:


So what do I do? Throw out the words of Paul or Jesus?

Here is what you do, we should all do, in hearing Paul who learned of Jesus Christ, do as he did, learn from Jesus Christ., and then, and only then, perhaps you will understand Pul.
 
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Here is what you do, we should all do, in hearing Paul who learned of Jesus Christ, do as he did, learn from Jesus Christ., and then, and only then, perhaps you will understand Pul.
Don't you see that is such a conundrum?

Allegedly Paul had a vision of Christ, all 3 extant accounts are slightly different, so can we be sure that Paul is being honest?

Why listen to a man that never met, walked, ate, or listened to Jesus face to face?

The one man responsible for spreading the faith in an exuberant way, never met Jesus and made up his own doctrine. On top of it all, people think that he died in some horrendous and triumphantly faithful way. He "suffered" for the faith. Well, let me tell you, that is not the case....

I don't understand why the bible can't be comprehended with a "Child-like" mindset. Jesus himself said that's the best way to come to him.... Now you are telling me I have to have this special and unique spirit force that will engage with my soul so that I can understand the hidden mysteries in the Text that God left us.

Never mind the fact that most of the population was illiterate up until 200 years ago.
 

JaumeJ

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Don't you see that is such a conundrum?

Allegedly Paul had a vision of Christ, all 3 extant accounts are slightly different, so can we be sure that Paul is being honest?

Why listen to a man that never met, walked, ate, or listened to Jesus face to face?

The one man responsible for spreading the faith in an exuberant way, never met Jesus and made up his own doctrine. On top of it all, people think that he died in some horrendous and triumphantly faithful way. He "suffered" for the faith. Well, let me tell you, that is not the case....

I don't understand why the bible can't be comprehended with a "Child-like" mindset. Jesus himself said that's the best way to come to him.... Now you are telling me I have to have this special and unique spirit force that will engage with my soul so that I can understand the hidden mysteries in the Text that God left us.

Never mind the fact that most of the population was illiterate up until 200 years ago.

Here is just part of what we know from Jesus Christ. We know we do obey the law of circumcision perfectly when our hearts are circumcised. We know God's laws, when containing mercy, faith, and justice are all part of the laws within us, and we do not fault the law of God nor His commandments.

We know when God commanded we be perfect because He is perfect, that we do obey thisin that this is a promise to each of us, it cannot be anything other, and teh perfecting is the work He has personally began in each of us when we turned from eh creation to the Creator...simple.

We learn to understand we obey Him because of His working to perfect us with the entering of Hiss will in all our hearts.

Yes, we cannot be saved by anything other than the Blood of the Lamb of god, but it is our due to obey the Spirit that He hs given us to dwell in us.......In so doing we are in accordance not only with mercy which is our salvation but also His law, HIs will whether we obey perfectly or not,the guilt of our transgression is no longer imputed to us.
 

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I don't understand why the bible can't be comprehended with a "Child-like" mindset. Jesus himself said that's the best way to come to him.... Now you are telling me I have to have this special and unique spirit force that will engage with my soul so that I can understand the hidden mysteries in the Text that God left us.
Yes faith starts out very simply like a child's faith. Then the Father of lights gives us the Holy Spirit like a mustard seed. Once planted the HS will lead us to God's truth in His word. If any of this did not happen to you then you are lost. God's word is a stumbling block to the lost.

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Yes faith starts out very simply like a child's faith. Then the Father of lights gives us the Holy Spirit like a mustard seed. Once planted the HS will lead us to God's truth in His word. If any of this did not happen to you then you are lost. God's word is a stumbling block to the lost.

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JaumeJ

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Don't you see that is such a conundrum?

Allegedly Paul had a vision of Christ, all 3 extant accounts are slightly different, so can we be sure that Paul is being honest?

Why listen to a man that never met, walked, ate, or listened to Jesus face to face?

The one man responsible for spreading the faith in an exuberant way, never met Jesus and made up his own doctrine. On top of it all, people think that he died in some horrendous and triumphantly faithful way. He "suffered" for the faith. Well, let me tell you, that is not the case....

I don't understand why the bible can't be comprehended with a "Child-like" mindset. Jesus himself said that's the best way to come to him.... Now you are telling me I have to have this special and unique spirit force that will engage with my soul so that I can understand the hidden mysteries in the Text that God left us.

Never mind the fact that most of the population was illiterate up until 200 years ago.

There are many who have raised this question about Paul. I know he is not aprophesied apostle. I know also his witness seems to be onlhy from himself,. These make me to always go to Jesus Chrisst the Master (meaning teacher) on any subject to be clear on it.

Like Mary, if I do not understand a point, and there have been a myriad of them, I hold them in my heartuntil God reveals teh understanding knowing it may not be until His great and glorious day.

I have waited more than forty years for a few clarifications and many I still await, and this is normal for all who believe. After all the Word is just One Person, our Savior. Praise God, He is worthy, amen.
 
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There are many who have raised this question about Paul. I know he is not aprophesied apostle. I know also his witness seems to be onlhy from himself,. These make me to always go to Jesus Chrisst the Master (meaning teacher) on any subject to be clear on it.

Like Mary, if I do not understand a point, and there have been a myriad of them, I hold them in my heartuntil God reveals teh understanding knowing it may not be until His great and glorious day.

I have waited more than forty years for a few clarifications and many I still await, and this is normal for all who believe. After all the Word is just One Person, our Savior. Praise God, He is worthy, amen.
I just wouldn't hold my breath is all.