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“Whether Paul or Apollos, or Cephas, or the World, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours; and ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’s”—1 Corinthians 3:22-23

Christians are on polar, erroneous extremes concerning the gifts of God to his children – the Church. Hence, the Lord through the Apostle Paul helps us straighten things up with the above scripture…

The opening text was written to the Corinthians Church to correct their erroneous attitudes and mind-sets concerning the ministers of God. Then eventually it was expounded to include every other God’s providence.

And incidentally, these same erroneous attitude and mind-sets concerning God’s gift to his children—the Church—lingers till date all over the world among believers. As a matter of fact, it has even grown worse among many contemporary Christians.

Hence, in this article, we want to critically analyse the above opening text, in order to straighten up these erroneous mind-sets and attitudes towards God’s gracious and benevolent providence for his heirs—The Church.

Understanding Divine Heritage

“Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a Son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ”—Galatians 4:7

The word ‘heir’ as used in the above text, is from the Greek word ‘kleronomos’ meaning—a shearer by lot. That is, ‘an inheritor’. Hence, an heir of God is an inheritor of divine creations and providence.

Our Lord Jesus Christ is the principal heir of God and all things the Father owns have been given unto him (see John 13:3). And they were given unto him for us as his joint heir by adoption…

Hence, all that Jesus possesses or owns are for us believers—for life and godliness (2 Peter1:3). And yes, we have access to most of these providence here and now for life and godliness. And our opening text gives credence to this fact (1Corinthians 3:22-23).

The word of God says, “all are yours”. That is, us as believers. Not some believers. So let’s consider these our heritage in Christ in a little more detail for better understanding.

Believers’ Divine Providence

From our opening text (1 Corinthians 3:22-23), the list below are the gracious gifts of God to everyone believer in Christ Jesus.

  • The Ministry Gifts: The word of God in our opening text tells us that every Ministers of the gospel are the privileged heritage of every believer in Christ Jesus. That is: the Apostles, the Prophets, the Pastors, the Teachers, Evangelists, etc. And as such, they are not to be idolised by any believer.

    They do owe God an obligation to minister to every believer within their means and gifts. Hence, they do not have any scriptural reason to refuse ministering to any believer or charging for their ministries.

    Then on the other hand, the believers also owe them care, honour and respect as authoritative servants and gifts of God to them. As they minister spiritual things to us, it’s our obligation to also minister materially to them (1 Corinthians 9:11). Then we also need to pray for them.

  • The World: Our opening text also tells us that the World (kosmos) is ours. That is, the universe and every of God’s creation in it—including the inhabitants—are the believers’ heritage in Christ Jesus. And the implication of this is that we are the caretakers and role-model or pace-setters of the World.

    Thus, everything that affects the world, locally and globally should concern us. And of course, it’s our responsibility to influence the world positively for Christ…

    And we do that through our faith, prayer, love, godliness and gospel of Christ.Yes, we are not of the world (The perverse and immoral world) but we own the world (The utopian, created world of God). We are not to love (or idolize) the world or the things in it (lust and pride). But we are to care for and influence it positively for God. Hence, the word of God says, we are the light and salt of the world (Matth 5:13-14)

  • Life: Another believers’ heritage, the opening verse reveals to us, is life (Zoe). That is, God’s kind of life—eternal life. So eternal life is a present and active possession of the believer. And the believer can as well minister this eternal life to others through the gospel, faith and prayers.


  • Death: Death here talks about physical death. Not spiritual death. This talks about bodily death. So the opening verse tells us that death is a providence or gift to the believer. Whether it is martyrdom or any other kind of physical death, it is a gracious providence of God to the believer. Death is the passage way of the believer to the world of glory and bliss in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. Then at the same time, the believer has the authority to resist and rebuke death in his life and that of others until their appointed time. When their assignments here on earth are over, and Jesus still tarries his coming; they can ride on the wings of death to the land of glory.

  • Things Present: The opening text also tells us that the present things of this world are also the gifts or possessions of believers. And they are for the believers’ Life and godliness. Whether it is spiritual gifts or material gifts. Seasonal suffering or adversity; or persecution in the present life here on earth… they are ours for life and godliness.
  • Things to Come: Finally, on the list of the believers’ providence or heritage, the word of God says, things to come are ours. Things to come, such as the New World—New Jerusalem. The crown and tree of life. The streets of gold. Glorious and shiny body, all are for us. And eventually, the text concludes by reminding us that we are Christ’s and that Christ is God’s.
So here you have it. The word God of God says ‘all are yours’. And you must accept all of them as a blessed gift from a loving God and Father. You are not to idolise any of them. Neither do you have to accept some and leave some on the table.

Either extreme is rebellion to God. They are yours—but they shouldn’t be idolised or abused. And at the same time, we shouldn’t call unclean the gifts of our benevolent Father because of abuse. Instead, we should receive them all with thanksgiving; and use them for their purposes. Which are life and godliness.

Remain Blessed!

Emeke Odili
 

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I appreciate the time and effort required for you to research and write these biblical studies.
 

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#3
“Whether Paul or Apollos, or Cephas, or the World, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours; and ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’s”—1 Corinthians 3:22-23

Christians are on polar, erroneous extremes concerning the gifts of God to his children – the Church. Hence, the Lord through the Apostle Paul helps us straighten things up with the above scripture…

The opening text was written to the Corinthians Church to correct their erroneous attitudes and mind-sets concerning the ministers of God. Then eventually it was expounded to include every other God’s providence.

And incidentally, these same erroneous attitude and mind-sets concerning God’s gift to his children—the Church—lingers till date all over the world among believers. As a matter of fact, it has even grown worse among many contemporary Christians.

Hence, in this article, we want to critically analyse the above opening text, in order to straighten up these erroneous mind-sets and attitudes towards God’s gracious and benevolent providence for his heirs—The Church.

Understanding Divine Heritage

“Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a Son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ”—Galatians 4:7

The word ‘heir’ as used in the above text, is from the Greek word ‘kleronomos’ meaning—a shearer by lot. That is, ‘an inheritor’. Hence, an heir of God is an inheritor of divine creations and providence.

Our Lord Jesus Christ is the principal heir of God and all things the Father owns have been given unto him (see John 13:3). And they were given unto him for us as his joint heir by adoption…

Hence, all that Jesus possesses or owns are for us believers—for life and godliness (2 Peter1:3). And yes, we have access to most of these providence here and now for life and godliness. And our opening text gives credence to this fact (1Corinthians 3:22-23).

The word of God says, “all are yours”. That is, us as believers. Not some believers. So let’s consider these our heritage in Christ in a little more detail for better understanding.

Believers’ Divine Providence

From our opening text (1 Corinthians 3:22-23), the list below are the gracious gifts of God to everyone believer in Christ Jesus.

  • The Ministry Gifts: The word of God in our opening text tells us that every Ministers of the gospel are the privileged heritage of every believer in Christ Jesus. That is: the Apostles, the Prophets, the Pastors, the Teachers, Evangelists, etc. And as such, they are not to be idolised by any believer.

    They do owe God an obligation to minister to every believer within their means and gifts. Hence, they do not have any scriptural reason to refuse ministering to any believer or charging for their ministries.

    Then on the other hand, the believers also owe them care, honour and respect as authoritative servants and gifts of God to them. As they minister spiritual things to us, it’s our obligation to also minister materially to them (1 Corinthians 9:11). Then we also need to pray for them.

  • The World: Our opening text also tells us that the World (kosmos) is ours. That is, the universe and every of God’s creation in it—including the inhabitants—are the believers’ heritage in Christ Jesus. And the implication of this is that we are the caretakers and role-model or pace-setters of the World.

    Thus, everything that affects the world, locally and globally should concern us. And of course, it’s our responsibility to influence the world positively for Christ…

    And we do that through our faith, prayer, love, godliness and gospel of Christ.Yes, we are not of the world (The perverse and immoral world) but we own the world (The utopian, created world of God). We are not to love (or idolize) the world or the things in it (lust and pride). But we are to care for and influence it positively for God. Hence, the word of God says, we are the light and salt of the world (Matth 5:13-14)

  • Life: Another believers’ heritage, the opening verse reveals to us, is life (Zoe). That is, God’s kind of life—eternal life. So eternal life is a present and active possession of the believer. And the believer can as well minister this eternal life to others through the gospel, faith and prayers.


  • Death: Death here talks about physical death. Not spiritual death. This talks about bodily death. So the opening verse tells us that death is a providence or gift to the believer. Whether it is martyrdom or any other kind of physical death, it is a gracious providence of God to the believer. Death is the passage way of the believer to the world of glory and bliss in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. Then at the same time, the believer has the authority to resist and rebuke death in his life and that of others until their appointed time. When their assignments here on earth are over, and Jesus still tarries his coming; they can ride on the wings of death to the land of glory.

  • Things Present: The opening text also tells us that the present things of this world are also the gifts or possessions of believers. And they are for the believers’ Life and godliness. Whether it is spiritual gifts or material gifts. Seasonal suffering or adversity; or persecution in the present life here on earth… they are ours for life and godliness.
  • Things to Come: Finally, on the list of the believers’ providence or heritage, the word of God says, things to come are ours. Things to come, such as the New World—New Jerusalem. The crown and tree of life. The streets of gold. Glorious and shiny body, all are for us. And eventually, the text concludes by reminding us that we are Christ’s and that Christ is God’s.
So here you have it. The word God of God says ‘all are yours’. And you must accept all of them as a blessed gift from a loving God and Father. You are not to idolise any of them. Neither do you have to accept some and leave some on the table.

Either extreme is rebellion to God. They are yours—but they shouldn’t be idolised or abused. And at the same time, we shouldn’t call unclean the gifts of our benevolent Father because of abuse. Instead, we should receive them all with thanksgiving; and use them for their purposes. Which are life and godliness.

Remain Blessed!

Emeke Odili
You mentioned this post is from an article: why do you not give credit to the authors and the article itself?

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Are spiritual gifts not mine?
 

Dino246

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#5
“Whether Paul or Apollos, or Cephas, or the World, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours; and ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’s”—1 Corinthians 3:22-23

Christians are on polar, erroneous extremes concerning the gifts of God to his children – the Church. Hence, the Lord through the Apostle Paul helps us straighten things up with the above scripture…

The opening text was written to the Corinthians Church to correct their erroneous attitudes and mind-sets concerning the ministers of God. Then eventually it was expounded to include every other God’s providence.

And incidentally, these same erroneous attitude and mind-sets concerning God’s gift to his children—the Church—lingers till date all over the world among believers. As a matter of fact, it has even grown worse among many contemporary Christians.

Hence, in this article, we want to critically analyse the above opening text, in order to straighten up these erroneous mind-sets and attitudes towards God’s gracious and benevolent providence for his heirs—The Church.

Understanding Divine Heritage

“Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a Son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ”—Galatians 4:7

The word ‘heir’ as used in the above text, is from the Greek word ‘kleronomos’ meaning—a shearer by lot. That is, ‘an inheritor’. Hence, an heir of God is an inheritor of divine creations and providence.

Our Lord Jesus Christ is the principal heir of God and all things the Father owns have been given unto him (see John 13:3). And they were given unto him for us as his joint heir by adoption…

Hence, all that Jesus possesses or owns are for us believers—for life and godliness (2 Peter1:3). And yes, we have access to most of these providence here and now for life and godliness. And our opening text gives credence to this fact (1Corinthians 3:22-23).

The word of God says, “all are yours”. That is, us as believers. Not some believers. So let’s consider these our heritage in Christ in a little more detail for better understanding.

Believers’ Divine Providence

From our opening text (1 Corinthians 3:22-23), the list below are the gracious gifts of God to everyone believer in Christ Jesus.

  • The Ministry Gifts: The word of God in our opening text tells us that every Ministers of the gospel are the privileged heritage of every believer in Christ Jesus. That is: the Apostles, the Prophets, the Pastors, the Teachers, Evangelists, etc. And as such, they are not to be idolised by any believer.

    They do owe God an obligation to minister to every believer within their means and gifts. Hence, they do not have any scriptural reason to refuse ministering to any believer or charging for their ministries.

    Then on the other hand, the believers also owe them care, honour and respect as authoritative servants and gifts of God to them. As they minister spiritual things to us, it’s our obligation to also minister materially to them (1 Corinthians 9:11). Then we also need to pray for them.

  • The World: Our opening text also tells us that the World (kosmos) is ours. That is, the universe and every of God’s creation in it—including the inhabitants—are the believers’ heritage in Christ Jesus. And the implication of this is that we are the caretakers and role-model or pace-setters of the World.

    Thus, everything that affects the world, locally and globally should concern us. And of course, it’s our responsibility to influence the world positively for Christ…

    And we do that through our faith, prayer, love, godliness and gospel of Christ.Yes, we are not of the world (The perverse and immoral world) but we own the world (The utopian, created world of God). We are not to love (or idolize) the world or the things in it (lust and pride). But we are to care for and influence it positively for God. Hence, the word of God says, we are the light and salt of the world (Matth 5:13-14)

  • Life: Another believers’ heritage, the opening verse reveals to us, is life (Zoe). That is, God’s kind of life—eternal life. So eternal life is a present and active possession of the believer. And the believer can as well minister this eternal life to others through the gospel, faith and prayers.


  • Death: Death here talks about physical death. Not spiritual death. This talks about bodily death. So the opening verse tells us that death is a providence or gift to the believer. Whether it is martyrdom or any other kind of physical death, it is a gracious providence of God to the believer. Death is the passage way of the believer to the world of glory and bliss in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. Then at the same time, the believer has the authority to resist and rebuke death in his life and that of others until their appointed time. When their assignments here on earth are over, and Jesus still tarries his coming; they can ride on the wings of death to the land of glory.

  • Things Present: The opening text also tells us that the present things of this world are also the gifts or possessions of believers. And they are for the believers’ Life and godliness. Whether it is spiritual gifts or material gifts. Seasonal suffering or adversity; or persecution in the present life here on earth… they are ours for life and godliness.
  • Things to Come: Finally, on the list of the believers’ providence or heritage, the word of God says, things to come are ours. Things to come, such as the New World—New Jerusalem. The crown and tree of life. The streets of gold. Glorious and shiny body, all are for us. And eventually, the text concludes by reminding us that we are Christ’s and that Christ is God’s.
So here you have it. The word God of God says ‘all are yours’. And you must accept all of them as a blessed gift from a loving God and Father. You are not to idolise any of them. Neither do you have to accept some and leave some on the table.

Either extreme is rebellion to God. They are yours—but they shouldn’t be idolised or abused. And at the same time, we shouldn’t call unclean the gifts of our benevolent Father because of abuse. Instead, we should receive them all with thanksgiving; and use them for their purposes. Which are life and godliness.

Remain Blessed!

Emeke Odili
It took me a minute to figure out what "a shearer by lot" means. Context usually helps when words are mis-spelled. :)

As the text on which you are expounding does not mention ministry gifts, I had to check the context. Paul rebuked the Corinthian church in chapter 1 for focusing on what one particular apostle taught, having lost the perspective that all three were teaching from the same source. The point Paul was making is neither that the apostles (as individuals) nor that the ministry gifts are "ours" but that the teaching they bring (together) is part of our inheritance.
 

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The point Paul was making is neither that the apostles (as individuals) nor that the ministry gifts are "ours" but that the teaching they bring (together) is part of our inheritance.
Hello again, What may I ask are you suggesting in the practical for our inheritance? How is it to be used?
 

emekrus

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It took me a minute to figure out what "a shearer by lot" means. Context usually helps when words are mis-spelled. :)

As the text on which you are expounding does not mention ministry gifts, I had to check the context. Paul rebuked the Corinthian church in chapter 1 for focusing on what one particular apostle taught, having lost the perspective that all three were teaching from the same source. The point Paul was making is neither that the apostles (as individuals) nor that the ministry gifts are "ours" but that the teaching they bring (together) is part of our inheritance.
Well,
I am glad it didn't take you more than a minute to get the meaning. And I must apologise for the misspelling.

The text mentions ministers by name. It mentions Paul and Apollos which are ministers to the Church. The scripture says they are ours. The ministers of the gospel are a constituent of the 'all that is ours' . Read in context again.
 

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You mentioned this post is from an article: why do you not give credit to the authors and the article itself?

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I believe that the OP is the author of the article. Maybe he is being humble by not giving himself credit for writing it. Actually, his literary style is of professional quality and while I do not always agree with his articles I do find them to be thought provoking and perhaps that is the true purpose as it may slowly move me towards positive change by the grace of God. Either way he is a blessing to me and others as well.
 

Dino246

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Well,
I am glad it didn't take you more than a minute to get the meaning. And I must apologise for the misspelling.

The text mentions ministers by name. It mentions Paul and Apollos which are ministers to the Church. The scripture says they are ours. The ministers of the gospel are a constituent of the 'all that is ours' . Read in context again.
Nothing in the context identifies "ministry gifts". It does, however, say that all things are ours in Christ. That includes the three mentioned, but what are they? Mere stewards, according to chapter 4. The "all things" also all gifts, according to verse 1:7.

What I see in your post is a desire to elevate "ministers" above other Christians, such that they get treated with special honour. I honestly do not think your key verse supports that thesis in any way. The context certainly doesn't. Rather, it emphasizes that the so-called ministers of the gospel are essentially unimportant; it is the gospel itself that is important.
 

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Nothing in the context identifies "ministry gifts". It does, however, say that all things are ours in Christ. That includes the three mentioned, but what are they? Mere stewards, according to chapter 4. The "all things" also all gifts, according to verse 1:7.

What I see in your post is a desire to elevate "ministers" above other Christians, such that they get treated with special honour. I honestly do not think your key verse supports that thesis in any way. The context certainly doesn't. Rather, it emphasizes that the so-called ministers of the gospel are essentially unimportant; it is the gospel itself that is important.
Going by this your position. What do you think Jesus meant, when he said: 'A Prophet is not without honour, except in his own country?". I am not quoting verbatim. But I believe the quotation rings a bell.
 

Dino246

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Going by this your position. What do you think Jesus meant, when he said: 'A Prophet is not without honour, except in his own country?". I am not quoting verbatim. But I believe the quotation rings a bell.
I believe you're dodging my criticism.
 

emekrus

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I believe you're dodging my criticism.
How do you mean, dodging your criticism. We are supposed to be discussing scriptures. You brought up a point from my post. Then I am bringing up scripture for discussion...

So do you mean to say your Pastor doesn't deserve special honour by virtue of his leadership office?
 

Dino246

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How do you mean, dodging your criticism. We are supposed to be discussing scriptures. You brought up a point from my post. Then I am bringing up scripture for discussion...

So do you mean to say your Pastor doesn't deserve special honour by virtue of his leadership office?
I thought we were discussing Scripture and your OP, not my view of pastors.

Neither the verse you expounded, nor its context, say anything about the role of ministers or ministry gifts, other than they are ‘stewards’ as I noted. Therefore the conclusion you draw about exalting “ministers” is without a foundation.
 

emekrus

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I thought we were discussing Scripture and your OP, not my view of pastors.

Neither the verse you expounded, nor its context, say anything about the role of ministers or ministry gifts, other than they are ‘stewards’ as I noted. Therefore the conclusion you draw about exalting “ministers” is without a foundation.
The OP says not to idolise the ministers. Yet to accord them honour and respect as authoritative gifts of God to the Church, even though they are 'stewards'. How does that translate to exaltation?

When you honour your earthly father and mother or your boss, does that translate to exaltation?
 

Dino246

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The OP says not to idolise the ministers. Yet to accord them honour and respect as authoritative gifts of God to the Church, even though they are 'stewards'. How does that translate to exaltation?

When you honour your earthly father and mother or your boss, does that translate to exaltation?
Let's set aside for the moment what the rest of Scripture says about honouring those with ministry gifts. Is there anything in the first 3-4 chapters of 1 Corinthians to suggest that "ministers" are to be treated with special honour?

No. Rather, Paul emphasizes that we are not to follow particular men, but rather Christ Himself. The ministers are merely stewards.

Yet your OP claimed otherwise. You made the assertion that the "all things are yours" means that, because three particular ministers of the gospel are "ours", that we are to honour those with ministry gifts.

That simply doesn't follow. The text simply doesn't state or imply anything of the sort.

Given the gist of your responses to me, you are focused on what other passages of Scripture say on the subject, rather than what your key text (and its context) say. We seem to be talking past each other.

Allow me to clarify my point: it's one thing to claim that what a text clearly says is consistent with what the rest of Scripture teaches. It is another (and, IMHO, poor exegesis) to claim that a particular text states or implies what it simply doesn't, even though that implication may be consistent with the rest of Scripture.
 

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Owe no one anything, except to love each other
(Romans 13:8)

i am yours, too - i am for all of you, indebted continually, my love