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Completely Untrue!
So God is the Great I Was and today doesn't do miracles and the Devil is the great I am who does!
What you're putting forward here is almost blasphemy!
The gifts of the Holy Spirit is the Lord Jesus Christ working through His Body, the Church, to meet the needs of a needy Church and world. The Lord Jesus today is completely shut out of many Churches here in the West simply because of the Lie, that the gifts of the Spirit disappeared at the end of the 1st Century and aren't needed because it has the Scripture canon.
Scripture clearly teaches that the gifts and ministries of the Holy Spirit are available throughout the whole of the age of Grace, right up until the Second Coming of Christ, and especially during the last three and a half years of the age, the period known as The Great Tribulation, when the mystery of iniquity will work fully and there will be a great deluge of evil into the world and the occult manifestations greatly increased. Dan 8v23,24, 11v32,36, 12v1,7, Matt 24v12,15-24, Acts 2v16-21,38,39, 1Cor 12v7-11,28, Eph 4v7-16, 2Thess 2v1-12, Rev 11v3-6, Rev 13 (all).
So God is the Great I Was and today doesn't do miracles and the Devil is the great I am who does!
What you're putting forward here is almost blasphemy!
The gifts of the Holy Spirit is the Lord Jesus Christ working through His Body, the Church, to meet the needs of a needy Church and world. The Lord Jesus today is completely shut out of many Churches here in the West simply because of the Lie, that the gifts of the Spirit disappeared at the end of the 1st Century and aren't needed because it has the Scripture canon.
Scripture clearly teaches that the gifts and ministries of the Holy Spirit are available throughout the whole of the age of Grace, right up until the Second Coming of Christ, and especially during the last three and a half years of the age, the period known as The Great Tribulation, when the mystery of iniquity will work fully and there will be a great deluge of evil into the world and the occult manifestations greatly increased. Dan 8v23,24, 11v32,36, 12v1,7, Matt 24v12,15-24, Acts 2v16-21,38,39, 1Cor 12v7-11,28, Eph 4v7-16, 2Thess 2v1-12, Rev 11v3-6, Rev 13 (all).
No it is not. Read and study Counterfeit Miracles by B.B. Warfield and learn the truth.
"...How long did this state of things continue? It was the characterizing peculiarity of specifically the Apostolic Church, and it belonged therefore exclusively to the Apostolic age—although no doubt this designation may be taken with some latitude. These gifts were not the possession of the primitive Christian as such; nor for that matter of the Apostolic Church or the Apostolic age for themselves; they were distinctively the authentication of the Apostles. They were part of the credentials of the Apostles as the authoritative agents of God in founding the church. Their function thus confined them to distinctively the Apostolic Church, and they necessarily passed away with it.
Of this we may make sure on the ground both of principle and of fact; that is to say both under the guidance of the New Testament teaching as to their origin and nature, and on the credit of the testimony of later ages as to their cessation. But I shall not stop at this point to adduce the proof of this. It will be sufficiently intimated in the criticism which I purpose to make of certain opposing opinions which have been current among students of the subject. My design is to state and examine the chief views which have been held favorable to the continuance of the charismata beyond the Apostolic age. In the process of this examination occasion will offer for noting whatever is needful to convince us that the possession of the charismata was confined to the Apostolic age..."
https://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/sdg/warfield/warfield_counterfeit.html#one
"...How long did this state of things continue? It was the characterizing peculiarity of specifically the Apostolic Church, and it belonged therefore exclusively to the Apostolic age—although no doubt this designation may be taken with some latitude. These gifts were not the possession of the primitive Christian as such; nor for that matter of the Apostolic Church or the Apostolic age for themselves; they were distinctively the authentication of the Apostles. They were part of the credentials of the Apostles as the authoritative agents of God in founding the church. Their function thus confined them to distinctively the Apostolic Church, and they necessarily passed away with it.
Of this we may make sure on the ground both of principle and of fact; that is to say both under the guidance of the New Testament teaching as to their origin and nature, and on the credit of the testimony of later ages as to their cessation. But I shall not stop at this point to adduce the proof of this. It will be sufficiently intimated in the criticism which I purpose to make of certain opposing opinions which have been current among students of the subject. My design is to state and examine the chief views which have been held favorable to the continuance of the charismata beyond the Apostolic age. In the process of this examination occasion will offer for noting whatever is needful to convince us that the possession of the charismata was confined to the Apostolic age..."
https://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/sdg/warfield/warfield_counterfeit.html#one
The Devil is not always that easy to pin down. He comes at different people in different ways. Like I stated in my other post sometimes he can appear to others as an angel of the light. He is out to steal, kill, and destroy the soul. He does this by misleading people in anyway he can and like I said he appeals to the person personally. He's not always going to just show his hand, that he is the devil...That's why we need to use the Word and Spirit of God for discernment.
The LORD said to Moses and Aaron, "When Pharaoh says to you, 'Perform a miracle,' then say to Aaron, 'Take your staff and throw it down before Pharaoh,' and it will become a snake." So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and did just as the LORD commanded. Aaron threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh and his officials, and it became a snake. Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts. (Exodus 7:8-11)
For one, a snake is not a beast, it is a creeping thing.
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.
Gen 3:1
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. Gen 1:24
Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they are an abomination Lev 11:42
One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. Titus 1:12
As far as what they symbolic for is liken to the symbolic language used in Matthew 7:6 wherein it is written, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."
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(See: Gal 6:4)
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.
Gen 3:1
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. Gen 1:24
Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they are an abomination Lev 11:42
One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. Titus 1:12
As far as what they symbolic for is liken to the symbolic language used in Matthew 7:6 wherein it is written, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."
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(See: Gal 6:4)
Yep, some people think shaman pray to God. They helping people, heal the sick, it was no insurance for the poor, doctor was too expensive for us, so people go to witch doctor, they think he pray to God.
In the last few years, government have a free doctor for poor, it may change.
Not all witch doctor are good. Some are fake.
In the last few years, government have a free doctor for poor, it may change.
Not all witch doctor are good. Some are fake.
As long as it is a witch doctor.
While they are no longer given the credit for the treatment of malaria, medical researchers learned from the witch doctors indigenous to the area where the Panama Canal was being constructed that the fatal infection was the result of mosquitoes infected with the parasite which was resulting in the death of almost 10% of the workers on the Panama Canal in 1905. And not only did they learn what caused the deadly infection but that the witch doctors used the bark of the cinchona tree to successfully treat the indigenous people who became infected by the mosquitoes carrying the parasite. The bark of the cinchona tree contains quinine which effectively cure yellow fever and malaria.
We do not know how witch doctor learn about quinine
There is a Chinese tradition to ask to the spirit for medical prescription
This video show how Chinese ask Spirit for medical prescription.
You see the boy shake a Bamboo till one of them falls, that bamboo has a number. Say number 9, you tell to Chinese drug store ask prescription number 9.
You may think it is stupid, it is random. Some time devil work that way.
My grandpa was itchy, he went to the doctor, not work, then he went to Chinese temple ask prescription to the spirit. Then we went to Chinese drug store, he ask the store owner infront of me to convince me that the spirit not make mistake.
What is this drug for
Store owner say, this is for ifchy.
Do not ask Spirit, it is devil, but yes devil know about medication.
There is a Chinese tradition to ask to the spirit for medical prescription
This video show how Chinese ask Spirit for medical prescription.
You see the boy shake a Bamboo till one of them falls, that bamboo has a number. Say number 9, you tell to Chinese drug store ask prescription number 9.
You may think it is stupid, it is random. Some time devil work that way.
My grandpa was itchy, he went to the doctor, not work, then he went to Chinese temple ask prescription to the spirit. Then we went to Chinese drug store, he ask the store owner infront of me to convince me that the spirit not make mistake.
What is this drug for
Store owner say, this is for ifchy.
Do not ask Spirit, it is devil, but yes devil know about medication.
Those who (like yourself) insist that spiritual gifts and spiritual ministries have ceased and are not for today, must, if they (you) are to be consistent, insist that God has removed them all, and not just some of them. If they (you) really believe that spiritual gifts are not for today, how is it that they (you) pray for Divine healing? For this is a gift of healing. How is it that they (you) pray for illumination upon a problem, or guidance from God? For this is a word of wisdom. How is it that they (you) pray for ministers of the Gospel to receive the Holy Spirit's anointing? and for Satan's power to be lifted off people? and for people to be blessed? For these are the operations of the gift of faith. How is it that they (you) pray for material needs to be met? For this is the province of the working of miracles. How is it that they (you) pray for a revelation of God to the soul? For this is a discerning of spirits. How is it that they (you) pray for an inspired utterance from God to help others? For this is the realm of prophecy. How is it that they (you) pray for the Holy Spirit to inspire them in prayer? and then reject the gift of tongues, which is the Divine answer to this request. It is a fact that Christians who say that spiritual gifts have ceased to operate in the Church, actually pray for their manifestation. Those who reject spiritual gifts completely, have in reality tried to remove God's influence from His Church, and put it in the hands of men. We must accept that God has decreed that we need these gifts, and not frustrate the wise and loving reasons for their manifestation.
Who really display's their ignorance?
Who really display's their ignorance?