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I wanted to put a like on your post but then I would be agreeing that man can make a judgement the same way GOD judges.
I hope you can understand what I’m saying.
I hope you can understand what I’m saying.
If you ever read a post from me saying man, without the Holy Spirit, is on a par with the mind of our Father, you are not understanding ...
I wanted to put a like on your post but then I would be agreeing that man can make a judgement the same way GOD judges.
I hope you can understand what I’m saying.
I hope you can understand what I’m saying.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
for a 'true called Christian, a very real part of the new pathway is our gift of judging/discerning the Body as a whole...
if one has not come to this understanding in their walk as of yet, then, I suggest that you keep=on
reading Father's will and adapt His ways, as opposed to those of this world's...
if one has not come to this understanding in their walk as of yet, then, I suggest that you keep=on
reading Father's will and adapt His ways, as opposed to those of this world's...
There are so many references of people, even the Apostles, believing efore the Holy Spirit entered into them……….If you want references, I am afraid the post would be exceptionally long.
Even the Apostles, who I believe you will agree were believing Jesus, did not receive the Holy Spirit until Pentecost………….though at times God would speak to them, as I believe He did to me long before the Holy Spirit actually came to dwell within.
If the Holy Spirit does not testify against this report.......and you yet do not believe, read it in the Book, starting with the Gospels.......
Even the Apostles, who I believe you will agree were believing Jesus, did not receive the Holy Spirit until Pentecost………….though at times God would speak to them, as I believe He did to me long before the Holy Spirit actually came to dwell within.
If the Holy Spirit does not testify against this report.......and you yet do not believe, read it in the Book, starting with the Gospels.......
What faith on Christ means to me is to believe in what Christ believed and preached and lived, which was and is to love ones neighbor, be just with everyone, be truthful with all, be humble with one another, and especially with God.
To simply say you believe in Christ, and then do not believe in what Christ believed, preached and lived, is on the same level of the billions who will fall away from their superficial faith when the Lord once again shakes the earth.
To simply say you believe in Christ, and then do not believe in what Christ believed, preached and lived, is on the same level of the billions who will fall away from their superficial faith when the Lord once again shakes the earth.
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Who has ever perfectly obeyed His commandments? Are we justified by the law or by faith? (Galatians 2:16-21)
In Hebrews 11:1, we read that faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. (NASB) Faith is not defined as obeying His commandments. Faith involves belief, trust, reliance, confidence. Those who have been saved through faith have placed their faith (belief, trust, reliance, confidence) in Jesus Christ for salvation. Obedience (including obeying His commandments) which FOLLOWS is WORKS and we are saved through faith, not works (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5 2 Timothy 1:9 etc..).
In Hebrews 11:1, we read that faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. (NASB) Faith is not defined as obeying His commandments. Faith involves belief, trust, reliance, confidence. Those who have been saved through faith have placed their faith (belief, trust, reliance, confidence) in Jesus Christ for salvation. Obedience (including obeying His commandments) which FOLLOWS is WORKS and we are saved through faith, not works (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5 2 Timothy 1:9 etc..).
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There's the problem, underlined, my friend.
And, you do all this and are therefore, for doing such, then right with God, yes?
Straw man, you're drawing up the above as if it were true faith, then also asserting it isn't true faith, then describing them as falling away as others. You are, proverbially speaking, talking out both sides of your mouth. But I digress, those who preach a gospel of works must do so by necessity as it shows to others their inconsistent message raising a red flag showing it to be false.
And, you do all this and are therefore, for doing such, then right with God, yes?
Straw man, you're drawing up the above as if it were true faith, then also asserting it isn't true faith, then describing them as falling away as others. You are, proverbially speaking, talking out both sides of your mouth. But I digress, those who preach a gospel of works must do so by necessity as it shows to others their inconsistent message raising a red flag showing it to be false.
Let us begin with the apostles, who, believed long before they received the Holy Spirit on Pentecost.
Now if you do not know the Word you may read of all the people who believe Jesus before He was crucified in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
Next beginning in Acts there are many references to thousands who eleived. If you need chapter and versen nuimbers, you are not up with the first centuries of brethren who understood the Word quite well without numbers in the Holy Scriptures.
I cannot do your catching up for you........read the Word, and learn It. All in Jesus Christ is possible, God bless you.++
According to some here, there were no believers before Pentecost, not the Aposstles , not the Jews, not theGentiles who heard and believed................
Now if you do not know the Word you may read of all the people who believe Jesus before He was crucified in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
Next beginning in Acts there are many references to thousands who eleived. If you need chapter and versen nuimbers, you are not up with the first centuries of brethren who understood the Word quite well without numbers in the Holy Scriptures.
I cannot do your catching up for you........read the Word, and learn It. All in Jesus Christ is possible, God bless you.++
According to some here, there were no believers before Pentecost, not the Aposstles , not the Jews, not theGentiles who heard and believed................
The old testament saints and the apostles believed in spiritual things because they had been regenerated and given the indwelling of the "Holy Spirit" (Isaiah 63:11) - Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? Where is he that put his "Holy Spirit" within him? The "comforter" which is the "Holy Ghost" was not given until Jesus ascended. The Holy Spirit gives a person the ability to believe. The Holy Ghost reveals Christ's teachings.
If someone believes in truth, justice, humility, love towards their neighbor; are they then not going to have corresponding acts towards their neighbor? As such, one who then has these qualities displays the obedience of their belief in Christs Way.
Romans 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
Romans 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: