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Joni at the time of her accident was 19, she broke her neck when she dove into shallow water.
People are in wheelchairs for different things. Some people have had accidents and some were born with afflictions, some were born blind and people would ask Jesus had they or parents sinned, Jesus replied that no this man was born blind for the glory of God to manifest in him.
He got healed, but then Helen Keller was not healed of her blindness yet God did great thing through her, as He did through Fanny Crosby. The thing is when people are weak if they have support and people to care for them it shows faith and love as well. Otherwise would babies just be born without needing our help to look after them?
If we have faith in Jesus, and not faith in our own abilities, that is all that is required. Some people have pride in their own abilities. Like Job they may find these are taken away from them, but we do know Job was patient, he endured, and he was restored when he prayed for his friends. He didnt blame God for any of it.
People are in wheelchairs for different things. Some people have had accidents and some were born with afflictions, some were born blind and people would ask Jesus had they or parents sinned, Jesus replied that no this man was born blind for the glory of God to manifest in him.
He got healed, but then Helen Keller was not healed of her blindness yet God did great thing through her, as He did through Fanny Crosby. The thing is when people are weak if they have support and people to care for them it shows faith and love as well. Otherwise would babies just be born without needing our help to look after them?
If we have faith in Jesus, and not faith in our own abilities, that is all that is required. Some people have pride in their own abilities. Like Job they may find these are taken away from them, but we do know Job was patient, he endured, and he was restored when he prayed for his friends. He didnt blame God for any of it.
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I will pray for your vision but if you are daring God's children or God, Himself, you prayers may go answered with a no...….I get lots of no's but then I always pray in the will of the Father, therefore I pray, in His will, that you eyesight be restored, perfect in Jesus Christs name, Yeshua, amen
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While I believe He is purifying, strengthening, perfecting, establishing, healing us, through sanctification making us Holy because He is, our hope in the blameless condition He will present, is in Him and His deity alone, not of ourselves. In our weak flesh, we will always need His grace, His tender-mercies. His purified nature belongs to Him. Our only claim to His righteousness is that we belong to Him; still, it is His!!! The spiritual healing we obtain is a miracle and it is promised. The healing of the flesh is wonderful but never promised.
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Being sick and being called home are differnt things, it is the health of our souls that God sees, as long as our bones are not rotted away for those of us who believe that Jesus rose from the dead, He can do anything. He can make dry bones live, so I would not put a damper on anything God chooses to do. Even death cannot hold us down. Death has no power over us. If we have the holy spirit living in us, we will rise again just as a living seed sprouts to life in spring. Whatever satan tries to do to our bodies he cannot destroy a beleiver's soul.
Anyway, just some thoughts, to encourage others. We all need encouragement to stand against satan's lies. Jesus is our saviour and he gave his life for us. He came to give us life and life in abundance. What are we doing with the life he has given us? Whether it is short or long, live it for His glory. If youve still got breath in your body, you can praise Him.
Anyway, just some thoughts, to encourage others. We all need encouragement to stand against satan's lies. Jesus is our saviour and he gave his life for us. He came to give us life and life in abundance. What are we doing with the life he has given us? Whether it is short or long, live it for His glory. If youve still got breath in your body, you can praise Him.
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As for the issue of being god or not I'll post a thread soon on the topic for elaborate discussion.
But as for your divine healing, I refuse a 'wishy washy' approach to divine healing. When I approach God for healing I do so with a violent and desperate faith with assuring expectation from God. I don't approach with any alternative in my mind. You remember the syrophoenician woman? Jesus praised her faith. Do you also remember the parable of the wicked judge and the widow? Jesus recommends her kind of persistent faith. Not a passive one.
But as for your divine healing, I refuse a 'wishy washy' approach to divine healing. When I approach God for healing I do so with a violent and desperate faith with assuring expectation from God. I don't approach with any alternative in my mind. You remember the syrophoenician woman? Jesus praised her faith. Do you also remember the parable of the wicked judge and the widow? Jesus recommends her kind of persistent faith. Not a passive one.
I agree that Jesus will indeed heal those that have faith but He does not heal everyone immediately or even in their lifetime.
My late second wife suffered horribly for years from debilitating psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis. She was a woman of deep spiritual faith. She prayed for healing for years but eventually gave the matter to God and just prayed for His will and desire by done in her life. She accepted her condition and as a result was able to minister to others who were suffering or tormented. She had many siblings, her brothers, who were Nazarene ministers would always question her faith, since she wasn't healed she must lack faith. This hurt her deeply and it made her question her own faith. Perhaps it was their own faith that was lacking since they prayed for her healing also and anointed her with oil which, in most cases, is a worthless exercise in futility and grossly insensitive.
It is not biblical to claim that if you have faith you will be healed immediately or at least eventually in your lifetime. Paul wrote that he petitioned to God 3 times to remove the thorn in his flesh but God said that His grace was sufficient. Paul accepted this, in fact it strengthened his resolve to continue to fight the good fight keeping his eyes on the prize.
Please provide documentation of someone who is missing a limb, eyes, is deaf or paralyzed that possesses faith, is prayed over by those who profess great faith and then can see, hear or stand up and walk, otherwise your testimony of healing is of no use and in fact, does more harm than good.
Peter whacked some guys ear off once, and Jesus stuck it back on. There was no mention at all whether or not this guy had any faith at all, in fact, he was in the group that was arresting Him. Jesus healed the man because He has compassion, mercy and empathy, not because the guy had faith. He will heal us too, because of our faith or despite our faith, but ultimately for our benefit that leads to the glory of God.
My late second wife suffered horribly for years from debilitating psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis. She was a woman of deep spiritual faith. She prayed for healing for years but eventually gave the matter to God and just prayed for His will and desire by done in her life. She accepted her condition and as a result was able to minister to others who were suffering or tormented. She had many siblings, her brothers, who were Nazarene ministers would always question her faith, since she wasn't healed she must lack faith. This hurt her deeply and it made her question her own faith. Perhaps it was their own faith that was lacking since they prayed for her healing also and anointed her with oil which, in most cases, is a worthless exercise in futility and grossly insensitive.
It is not biblical to claim that if you have faith you will be healed immediately or at least eventually in your lifetime. Paul wrote that he petitioned to God 3 times to remove the thorn in his flesh but God said that His grace was sufficient. Paul accepted this, in fact it strengthened his resolve to continue to fight the good fight keeping his eyes on the prize.
Please provide documentation of someone who is missing a limb, eyes, is deaf or paralyzed that possesses faith, is prayed over by those who profess great faith and then can see, hear or stand up and walk, otherwise your testimony of healing is of no use and in fact, does more harm than good.
Peter whacked some guys ear off once, and Jesus stuck it back on. There was no mention at all whether or not this guy had any faith at all, in fact, he was in the group that was arresting Him. Jesus healed the man because He has compassion, mercy and empathy, not because the guy had faith. He will heal us too, because of our faith or despite our faith, but ultimately for our benefit that leads to the glory of God.
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I guess Paul, Timothy, Trophimus, etc., just didn't have as much faith as you. 
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I noted very clearly that Jesus healed. It fuflilled prophecies, and it was also consistent with the character of God, that Jesus had compassion. BUT, it does not mean healing is part of the gospel. It was part of the "signs" as John called them, so the people would know who Jesus was. There were also healings in Acts, of course, as they were a sign to the church that God was with them. BUT, never a part of the gospel.
Again, the gospel is about Jesus dying on the cross to saved us from our sins. Healing is not part of that, although God can heal who he wants, when he wants. But NOT because we claim it, name it, demand or even ask pretty please! This whole healing thing is fine, if you understand it it NOT part of the real gospel. But, you might not know what the gospel actually is. Please see my post above.
As for Acts 10:38, I do not deny it, I have already said many times, that Jesus fulfilled the OT prophecies. What I find weird, is that the entire chapter 10 of Acts, is about God calling a Gentile, and using Peter to preach to him, despite Peter's sel-righteous Phariseeism. And yet, you pull one verse out of context, which was part of the witness of who Jesus was, and make it into another gospel, rather than the statement of who Jesus Christ was. Acts 10:38 is not the gospel. Read the whole chapter about 10 times, and maybe you will understand what it is about. In fact, look at Peter's speech. That is just one verse describing who Jesus is, and what he did on earth.
"Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. 36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.37 You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached— 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.
39 “We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a cross, 40 but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen.41 He was not seen by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen—by us who ateand drank with him after he rose from the dead. 42 He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead. 43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.” Acts 10:34-43
I don't know how anyone could read that verse in context, and possibly think it is part of the gospel, instead of a fulfillment of OT prophecies. This chapter is about Peter preaching the good news to a Gentile, part of which was explaining how Jesus was baptized and went about doing good. The whole last part is about Jesus being raised from the dead, commanding us to preach that, and how he will one day judge the living and the dead. And those who believe, receive forgiveness in his name.
You really need to learn how to do proper exegesis and some hermeneutics. Then you would not be pulling verses out of context all the time, to prove something that is not Biblical.
Again, the gospel is about Jesus dying on the cross to saved us from our sins. Healing is not part of that, although God can heal who he wants, when he wants. But NOT because we claim it, name it, demand or even ask pretty please! This whole healing thing is fine, if you understand it it NOT part of the real gospel. But, you might not know what the gospel actually is. Please see my post above.
As for Acts 10:38, I do not deny it, I have already said many times, that Jesus fulfilled the OT prophecies. What I find weird, is that the entire chapter 10 of Acts, is about God calling a Gentile, and using Peter to preach to him, despite Peter's sel-righteous Phariseeism. And yet, you pull one verse out of context, which was part of the witness of who Jesus was, and make it into another gospel, rather than the statement of who Jesus Christ was. Acts 10:38 is not the gospel. Read the whole chapter about 10 times, and maybe you will understand what it is about. In fact, look at Peter's speech. That is just one verse describing who Jesus is, and what he did on earth.
"Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right. 36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.37 You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached— 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.
39 “We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a cross, 40 but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen.41 He was not seen by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen—by us who ateand drank with him after he rose from the dead. 42 He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead. 43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.” Acts 10:34-43
I don't know how anyone could read that verse in context, and possibly think it is part of the gospel, instead of a fulfillment of OT prophecies. This chapter is about Peter preaching the good news to a Gentile, part of which was explaining how Jesus was baptized and went about doing good. The whole last part is about Jesus being raised from the dead, commanding us to preach that, and how he will one day judge the living and the dead. And those who believe, receive forgiveness in his name.
You really need to learn how to do proper exegesis and some hermeneutics. Then you would not be pulling verses out of context all the time, to prove something that is not Biblical.
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