The Basics of Speaking in Tongues
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God's Word does not lie. And it states He will preserve a pure word.
Ps 12:6-7
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
How can God say we will judged by the Word and then allow it to be modified causing confusion and hindering our ability to obey it? Not going to happen.
John 12:48
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
If I were to question something from the Word, which I would not, it certainly would not be the very words of Jesus recorded in Mark 16:
Ps 12:6-7
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
How can God say we will judged by the Word and then allow it to be modified causing confusion and hindering our ability to obey it? Not going to happen.
John 12:48
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
If I were to question something from the Word, which I would not, it certainly would not be the very words of Jesus recorded in Mark 16:
That is your mistake...I do not question the word or something from the word......but rather the ecstatic, fleshly practice that does not even compare to what took place in Acts.....and for sure ALL Greek scholars will say, admit and or be honest with the fact that the last chapter of MARK has been added at a later date and is NOT found in many Greek manuscripts especially the older ones........
Scripture does not lie: "and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; " This statement indicates God's children are protected in the event they unknowingly consume something harmful.
However, scripture records Jesus words after Satan told Him to do something harmful to Himself: Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." Matt 4:7
So if some idiot chooses to consume something deadly thinking God is going to intervene he is sadly mistaken.
However, scripture records Jesus words after Satan told Him to do something harmful to Himself: Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." Matt 4:7
So if some idiot chooses to consume something deadly thinking God is going to intervene he is sadly mistaken.
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One day we will all stand in judgment and the truth will be known and determine each one's destination for eternity.
My desire is to share what I see for the benefit of others.
Jude 17-25
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
My desire is to share what I see for the benefit of others.
Jude 17-25
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
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you gave no explanation other than its the Lords will, Jim Jones probably told his congregation its the Lords will before they drank the coolaid.
the entire angel language doctrine is based on one sentence and the sentence doesnt even have anything to do with the subject, the subject is about love. this is called taking something out of context.
the entire angel language doctrine is based on one sentence and the sentence doesnt even have anything to do with the subject, the subject is about love. this is called taking something out of context.
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I think it gives experience the glory.
There are some things said in respect to the witness of men. Can we trust in others experiences as a validator of the unseen spiritual things?? If we do not wrestles against it (flesh and blood) can we use it as a source of faith for hearing God unseen?
Interesting?...."We were all infilled and spoke in tongues just like the others on the Day of Pentecost" What were the instructions these men heard as prophecy? Can we add them to the book of prophecy the bible? Peter's words that Holy Spirt put on his tongues are clear. With those "Bapticostals." was there a new law or a commentary on a old that was revealed?
But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:Acts 2: 14-19
There are some things said in respect to the witness of men. Can we trust in others experiences as a validator of the unseen spiritual things?? If we do not wrestles against it (flesh and blood) can we use it as a source of faith for hearing God unseen?
Interesting?...."We were all infilled and spoke in tongues just like the others on the Day of Pentecost" What were the instructions these men heard as prophecy? Can we add them to the book of prophecy the bible? Peter's words that Holy Spirt put on his tongues are clear. With those "Bapticostals." was there a new law or a commentary on a old that was revealed?
But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:Acts 2: 14-19
Agreed, this is not disfellowship material by a long shot.
Yes, tongues will cease, but when? Remember, 'knowledge' will cease as well...
Charity never faileth: but whether [there be] prophecies, they shall fail; whether [there be] tongues, they shall cease; whether [there be] knowledge, it shall vanish away. (1 Corinthians 13:8 KJV)
Yes, tongues will cease, but when? Remember, 'knowledge' will cease as well...
Charity never faileth: but whether [there be] prophecies, they shall fail; whether [there be] tongues, they shall cease; whether [there be] knowledge, it shall vanish away. (1 Corinthians 13:8 KJV)
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Take it or leave it, but the burden of proof isn't on the church to prove incoherent gibbering or flopping around on the floor like a fish out of water is proof of a spiritual gift from God but rather on those who promote those things as being spiritual gifts from God.
They have not proven their case.
It is dismissed as nonsensical and absolutely non-essential to the development of Christian faith.
2 John 1:9
Anyone who runs ahead without remaining in the teaching of Christ does not have God. Whoever remains in His teaching has both the Father and the Son.
They have not proven their case.
It is dismissed as nonsensical and absolutely non-essential to the development of Christian faith.
2 John 1:9
Anyone who runs ahead without remaining in the teaching of Christ does not have God. Whoever remains in His teaching has both the Father and the Son.
Wansvic, unfortunately, you've just given us two salient examples of "not reading carefully".
Psalm 12:6-7 does NOT say that "God will preserve a pure word" - that's a trope, and it is misleading. Scripture does indeed say the words of the Lord are pure. However, then it says "Thou shalt preserve them from this generation forever. From... as in "away from this troublesome generation" (which refers to that described in verses 2-4).
2 Peter 1:21 (KJV) says, "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." The NIV puts it this way:
"Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things."
It doesn't say, "no scripture is of a private interpretation"; rather, it says, "no prophecy of the scripture...". It means that the origin of prophecy is not private interpretation of events.
Psalm 12:6-7 does NOT say that "God will preserve a pure word" - that's a trope, and it is misleading. Scripture does indeed say the words of the Lord are pure. However, then it says "Thou shalt preserve them from this generation forever. From... as in "away from this troublesome generation" (which refers to that described in verses 2-4).
2 Peter 1:21 (KJV) says, "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." The NIV puts it this way:
"Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things."
It doesn't say, "no scripture is of a private interpretation"; rather, it says, "no prophecy of the scripture...". It means that the origin of prophecy is not private interpretation of events.
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It would seem you are trying to make the law of faith as it is written into just another a philosophy of men , rather than a perfect law that works in the believer to give life to our soul and enlightens the eyes of our hard dark hearts .
Psalm 19:7-8 King James Version (KJV) The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple. The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.
Psalm 12 below speaks of the purifying ministry of the word of God tested by time. The purifying work of the faith of Christ as a labor of His love.
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. Psalm 12:6
The unifying fire .
Acts 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Psalm 119:140 Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it.
I would also ask .What's your private interpretation as a person opinion. What's the difernce between the scripture,..... as it is written, and prophecy..... as it is written?
Psalm 19:7-8 King James Version (KJV) The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple. The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.
Psalm 12 below speaks of the purifying ministry of the word of God tested by time. The purifying work of the faith of Christ as a labor of His love.
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. Psalm 12:6
The unifying fire .
Acts 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Psalm 119:140 Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it.
I would also ask .What's your private interpretation as a person opinion. What's the difernce between the scripture,..... as it is written, and prophecy..... as it is written?
I would sugest if some say that is not true then whose interpretation is found below . Jeremiah's ?
Then the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth. See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant. Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Jeremiah, what seest thou? And I said, I see a rod of an almond tree.Then said the Lord unto me, Thou hast well seen: for I will hasten my word to perform it.Jeremiah 1:8-12
Whose interpretation below? The Ass?
Numbers 22:28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?
Then the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth. See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant. Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Jeremiah, what seest thou? And I said, I see a rod of an almond tree.Then said the Lord unto me, Thou hast well seen: for I will hasten my word to perform it.Jeremiah 1:8-12
Whose interpretation below? The Ass?
Numbers 22:28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?
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