Are the Gospels written specifically to Jews only?
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So, you mean Jesus' earthly ministry was for all, right?
Have you already given away your property to charity, as Jesus commanded? Do you perform sacrifices? Do you absolutely keep yourself from looking at other women? (according to Jesus' teaching on earth, if you look just once you're an adulterer and adulterers will go to hell). Do you keep all 613 mitzvot?
Have you already given away your property to charity, as Jesus commanded? Do you perform sacrifices? Do you absolutely keep yourself from looking at other women? (according to Jesus' teaching on earth, if you look just once you're an adulterer and adulterers will go to hell). Do you keep all 613 mitzvot?
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Romans 9:6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel; 7 nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants, but: “through Isaac your descendants will be named.” 8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants.
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Only God is wise. However I will comment on your sincere remark.
Do you believe once a person is saved it fulfills the prophecy that we have now the truth or the law inscribed in our inward parts, on the tablets of our hearts?
Tell me then, why, when this prophecy is given us in many places but for now in Jeremiah, it is addressed to Israel?
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
I have no understanding nor great wisdom but my Father and yours does.
Was / is Jesus God?
When Jesus spoke of born again,the 10 virgins,watching and waiting it was for christians.
When he forgave sins outside the Jewish law,healed both Jew and Gentile,ignored their laws of washing,and broke their sabboth,..... this is a pattern for us today. Today's christians.
Jesus introduced the Law of love
Jesus introduced turning the other cheek,going the extra mile etc.
All that instruction for the modern believer.
All the above is not taken serious under your template of Paul only.
It also destroys any notion of the
gospels being OT.
The Gospels are the betrothal of the bride. The last supper is a vivid picture of the Jewish betrothal.
The Jewish betrothal was basically marriage before consumation and co habitation.
You have greatly disenfranchised yourself,by falsely deporting the non paul NT.
That skewed exegesis steps directly into doctoring of the pure word. Even the WORDS OF JESUS.
You would be wise to admit Jesus not only knew what he was talking about,but he didn't need us to annul his intended audience.
That audience was immediate and now (the whosoevers).
You guys are on dangerous ground by skewing the non pauline writings.
Very foolish and dangerous.
When Jesus spoke of born again,the 10 virgins,watching and waiting it was for christians.
When he forgave sins outside the Jewish law,healed both Jew and Gentile,ignored their laws of washing,and broke their sabboth,..... this is a pattern for us today. Today's christians.
Jesus introduced the Law of love
Jesus introduced turning the other cheek,going the extra mile etc.
All that instruction for the modern believer.
All the above is not taken serious under your template of Paul only.
It also destroys any notion of the
gospels being OT.
The Gospels are the betrothal of the bride. The last supper is a vivid picture of the Jewish betrothal.
The Jewish betrothal was basically marriage before consumation and co habitation.
You have greatly disenfranchised yourself,by falsely deporting the non paul NT.
That skewed exegesis steps directly into doctoring of the pure word. Even the WORDS OF JESUS.
You would be wise to admit Jesus not only knew what he was talking about,but he didn't need us to annul his intended audience.
That audience was immediate and now (the whosoevers).
You guys are on dangerous ground by skewing the non pauline writings.
Very foolish and dangerous.
Ok,in this thread we have the pauline adherants. They believe in " paul only"
The rest of the word is law,to a non christian audience.
They have a nice grasp on paul and his teaching on grace " salvation" but that one dimension as about all they live in.
So in their "Paul bubble" they evict and deport all non pauline writings.
IOW ,to them, salvation is like the "tree of paul", they only gather there,and circle it over,and over,and over.
Salvation,grace,salvation,grace,salvation, grace.
If you say "hey lookey here in James" they shriek and say "oh no,thats not for the church,thats law and ONLY FOR JEWS"
ANY non paul writings are not taken seriously.
Even revelation is not for us today.
It is sick. Very sick heresy.
They MUST ASSUME the rest of the bible is not inspired.
The rest of the word is law,to a non christian audience.
They have a nice grasp on paul and his teaching on grace " salvation" but that one dimension as about all they live in.
So in their "Paul bubble" they evict and deport all non pauline writings.
IOW ,to them, salvation is like the "tree of paul", they only gather there,and circle it over,and over,and over.
Salvation,grace,salvation,grace,salvation, grace.
If you say "hey lookey here in James" they shriek and say "oh no,thats not for the church,thats law and ONLY FOR JEWS"
ANY non paul writings are not taken seriously.
Even revelation is not for us today.
It is sick. Very sick heresy.
They MUST ASSUME the rest of the bible is not inspired.
1) he operated outside that template
2) jn 3;16 is outside that template
All the disciples were Jews.
Or if not all,most.
It was peter that first saw the ministry expanded to the gentile. But it was Jesus that also brought them to his bosum and included them.
Jn 3;16 as well as other verses are outside the paul only, limited exegesis.
That Born again verse really muddies up the pauline exclusiveness
2) jn 3;16 is outside that template
All the disciples were Jews.
Or if not all,most.
It was peter that first saw the ministry expanded to the gentile. But it was Jesus that also brought them to his bosum and included them.
Jn 3;16 as well as other verses are outside the paul only, limited exegesis.
That Born again verse really muddies up the pauline exclusiveness
God is not a man as us. He is Spirit unlike any spirit as the father of all spirit life.
Jesus never forgave sin outside of His law. The Jews had a law of their own called the law of the fathers They used those law to transgress his.
The Holy Spirit introduced the Law of love. Jesus as an example worked it out turning the other cheek, going the extra mile etc. All that instruction for the believers of any age.
What's a template of Paul only? What's the thing about Paul you seem so concerned with ?
Under the template of the Holy Spirit who put his words and thoughts on Paul lips. The aame Spirit of Christ who put his words and thoughts on the lips and tongue of Balaam Ass and restrained the madness of that false prophet.
Annul his intended audience ? What is that supposed to mean?
The bible has one author... God.
Jesus never forgave sin outside of His law. The Jews had a law of their own called the law of the fathers They used those law to transgress his.
The Holy Spirit introduced the Law of love. Jesus as an example worked it out turning the other cheek, going the extra mile etc. All that instruction for the believers of any age.
What's a template of Paul only? What's the thing about Paul you seem so concerned with ?
Under the template of the Holy Spirit who put his words and thoughts on Paul lips. The aame Spirit of Christ who put his words and thoughts on the lips and tongue of Balaam Ass and restrained the madness of that false prophet.
Annul his intended audience ? What is that supposed to mean?
The bible has one author... God.
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well if Jesus tells you to, I guess you should
but the rest of us can carry on
how about 'sermon on the mount'
do you think maybe that is more important? Paul said if he gave everything away and possess all wisdom (etc) but did not have love, he would be making a whole lotta noise and nothing more (my paraphrase at the end there)
Are you saying if a person cannot read that person cannot go to the Kingdom, be saved, love God?
My friend who could not read came to me ands said, "J, you know what, I'm David." Well I thought he had snapped his buttons, and then he explained all.
WE are all David when we go to fight the enemy, in this case, Goliath. We pick up five smooth stones, and with One Stone we slay him. That stone is Jesus...…...Now I put it in my words and recollection, for this was 49 years ago. So, please refrain from sarcasm. I am not sarcastic with others nor with you. God bless you always.