Mark 16: 9-20 inspiration, God or man?

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eternally-gratefull

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John146 said:
Does your bible call this place of eternal "separation" hell or lake of fire?
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Lolol,,

And this proves your point? Get real dude,,your

One more time, you said we hated the word hell, admit you made a mistake? Or is that to hard for you?
 
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p_rehbein said:
WOW.......what a cop out............sigh............

You are treading on dangerous ground Sir, when you set out to REVISE the Holy Bible............
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Well i can see you have not changed.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Lol, whatever, this reasoning is old, as are your arguments,

Trying to compair the greek language with the english language is like compairing a trigonometry with basic math, they are that far apart in terms of precision and depth

To think you can take a basic math book and understand trig, is the same as saying one can take an english language and properly interpret a greek text word for word, its impossible,
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Why does it need to be word for word? I just need the exact English words. Can God speak His word into English? Would it stump God? Would He know the exact English words to use?
 
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John146 said:
So, you don't know the difference?

Work out your own translation? Is that what God wanted us to do? Don't you think our God could actually inspire a translation as He has done many times throughout the bible?
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John, there is no such as an inspired translation. Translations are the work of men and some translations are better than others. Only the original was inspired. That is why it is the standard against which all translations must be measured.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Lolol,,

And this proves your point? Get real dude,,your

One more time, you said we hated the word hell, admit you made a mistake? Or is that to hard for you?
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If you don't want to answer the question, at least tell me what translation you use...I'll post the verses and see. Just curious.
 
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John146 said:
So, you don't know the difference?

Work out your own translation? Is that what God wanted us to do? Don't you think our God could actually inspire a translation as He has done many times throughout the bible?
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Well he could have, if he wanted, but he did not, for whatever reason.

Then again, he never promised to,

If he did, he would have perfect bibles in all languages, heck, he could have made sure the origional autographs were never lost.
 
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oldhermit said:
John, there is no such as an inspired translation. Translations are the work of men and some translations are better than others. Only the original was inspired.
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What Moses spoke in Egyptian and translated into Hebrew...are those translations a part of the inspired word? There are many, many other examples I can post showing that a translation can be inspired.
 
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John146 said:
If you don't want to answer the question, at least tell me what translation you use...I'll post the verses and see. Just curious.
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I use the king jimmy

But then again you should know this, i have told you this so many times
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Well he could have, if he wanted, but he did not, for whatever reason.

Then again, he never promised to,

If he did, he would have perfect bibles in all languages, heck, he could have made sure the origional autographs were never lost.
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God wants us to live by partial truth and try to figure out on our own the rest...
 
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God wants us to live by partial truth and try to figure out on our own the rest...
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Well if we take the kjv as inspired we would just have partial truth,

So you take your partial truth, i will dig into the word using all resources and find the completed word.
 
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John146 said:
What Moses spoke in Egyptian and translated into Hebrew...are those translations a part of the inspired word? There are many, many other examples I can post showing that a translation can be inspired.
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What on earth makes you think Moses spoke only Egyptian or that he translated the words of God from Egyptian into Hebrew???
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
I use the king jimmy

But then again you should know this, i have told you this so many times
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oldhermit said:
What on earth makes you think Moses spoke only Egyptian or that he translated the words of God from Egyptian into Hebrew???
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I meant Joseph...sorry. Joseph spoke Egyptian, and his words were translated into the "originals" in Hebrew.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Well if we take the kjv as inspired we would just have partial truth,

So you take your partial truth, i will dig into the word using all resources and find the completed word.
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Scholarshiponlyism...is this what God truly wanted from His word?
 
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I believe its inspired, because we witness all the signs mentioned there in the book of Acts.

Also if we cut the ending short, we get NO great commission in Mark and the story ends abruptly to a brick wall where disciples are just in fear.
 
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John146 said:
I meant Joseph...sorry. Joseph spoke Egyptian, and his words were translated into the "originals" in Hebrew.
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Thats because moses wrote them in hebrew.
 
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John146 said:
I meant Joseph...sorry. Joseph spoke Egyptian, and his words were translated into the "originals" in Hebrew.
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Yes, Joseph spoke Egyptian but, his first language was Hebrew. Besides, Joseph was never the author of any segment of scripture so, what is your point?
 
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John146 said:
Scholarshiponlyism...is this what God truly wanted from His word?
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Again, the english language is incapable of translaring the greek and hebrew texts in a word for word form

Ignore this fact all you want, your just hurting yourself,

This argument is old, and you have yet to prove it wronf, so continue with your idol worship
 
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Hevosmies said:
I believe its inspired, because we witness all the signs mentioned there in the book of Acts.

Also if we cut the ending short, we get NO great commission in Mark and the story ends abruptly to a brick wall where disciples are just in fear.
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The great commission was given in mattew, up until the text says “and is baptised” i believe is inspired, the rest is questionable at best.
 
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oldhermit said:
Yes, Joseph spoke Egyptian but, his first language was Hebrew. Besides, Joseph was never the author of any segment of scripture so, what is your point?
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The words Joseph spoke in Egyptian, Moses translated them into Hebrew, and that translation is inspired.
 
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oldhermit said:
Yes, Joseph spoke Egyptian but, his first language was Hebrew. Besides, Joseph was never the author of any segment of scripture so, what is your point?
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Desperation,
 
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