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so coop.
you covered:
- gatherings
- traffic lights
- deer
- more gatherings
- 144,000
AND THE SECOND ADVENT.
where's your trumpets study? you don't have one.
and, according to your lame theory, anyone not "looking" into the sky will be "left behind". tell me coop....do you work? what does your boss say about you NEVER LOOKING AT YOUR TASK?
how do you manage to drive without crashing your car?
If you are not looking for Him then, you will be left behind. It will not be fun.
seriously though (as hard as this is)....did Jesus come all the way from Glory, live a Perfectly Righteous life under The Law, die an agonizing death on Calvary and Rise from the dead so that anyone who is looking into the sky can get saved?
are you for real? do you have the whole collection?
Do you just suppose there will be trumpets in the millennium?
Here are some gatheringings:
Matthew 3:12
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Matthew 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matthew 25:32
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
Mark 13:27
And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven
Ephesians 1:10
That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
2 Thessalonians 2:1
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him
Revelation 14:18
And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
psssst....coop......ALL SECOND ADVENT!
1 Corinthians 15:50-55
Mystery and Victory
I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written:
“Death is swallowed up in victory.”
“O death, where is your victory?
O death, where is your sting?”
1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
1 Thessalonians 4:17
Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
Matthew 24:31
And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
BUT, we are to believe, Paul didn't REALLY mean the LAST TRUMPET. Behold! I tell you a mystery.
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this is absolutely baffling that you yourself could write this, yet not see it.
you covered:
- gatherings
- traffic lights
- deer
- more gatherings
- 144,000
AND THE SECOND ADVENT.
where's your trumpets study? you don't have one.
and, according to your lame theory, anyone not "looking" into the sky will be "left behind". tell me coop....do you work? what does your boss say about you NEVER LOOKING AT YOUR TASK?
how do you manage to drive without crashing your car?
If you are not looking for Him then, you will be left behind. It will not be fun.
seriously though (as hard as this is)....did Jesus come all the way from Glory, live a Perfectly Righteous life under The Law, die an agonizing death on Calvary and Rise from the dead so that anyone who is looking into the sky can get saved?
are you for real? do you have the whole collection?
Do you just suppose there will be trumpets in the millennium?
Here are some gatheringings:
Matthew 3:12
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Matthew 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matthew 25:32
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
Mark 13:27
And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven
Ephesians 1:10
That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
2 Thessalonians 2:1
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him
Revelation 14:18
And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
psssst....coop......ALL SECOND ADVENT!
1 Corinthians 15:50-55
Mystery and Victory
I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written:
“Death is swallowed up in victory.”
“O death, where is your victory?
O death, where is your sting?”
1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
1 Thessalonians 4:17
Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
Matthew 24:31
And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
BUT, we are to believe, Paul didn't REALLY mean the LAST TRUMPET. Behold! I tell you a mystery.
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this is absolutely baffling that you yourself could write this, yet not see it.
So explain this to all of us: HOW is the rapture of the church, gathering from heaven? It is written that the dead in Christ RISE. That means they go from a place UNDER THE GROUND UP to a place above ground" RISE. Of course this is speaking of the bodies, not the spirit and soul, which come with Jesus. I don't know if the spirit meets with the body the instant the body is renewed, or after it is raised - for Paul does not tell us. But I wish for you to explain how this can be a gathering from HEAVEN?
After the dead in Christ are risen, then we that are alive and remain are caught up. Or we could say SEIZED or SNATCHED by the power of the Holy Spirit. THERE ARE NO ANGELS GATHERING. We get bodies LIKE the angels. You must AD LIB to get angels into Paul's gathering. Now again, SHOW US how this gathering from planet earth can be a gathering from HEAVEN. I can hardly wait..............
As I have said, even a 5th grader could understand the rapture gathers from the earth.....
Just to help you out, here are other verses where this same word, "heaven" is used:
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Rev 19:14 And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 20:11 ¶ And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 18:1 ¶ And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
So the heaven in question is where the throne of God is. We are only there in authority. We LIVE ON EARTH and that is where we will be gathered from.
Even a 5th grader would understand the last of a SERIES. Again tell us all: will God send angels so there will NEVER be another trumpet blast? If you only understood a smattering of John's chronology, you would know that the 7th trumpet in Revelation, which sounds at the exact midpoint of the week, sounds about 3.5 years AFTER Paul's last trump sounds. Again, it is the last of a SERIES, such as, and probably as the last of the FEAST OF TRUMPETS.
The ONLY people that will be qualified for the rapture are those that are SOLD OUT to Jesus. Anyone living a half hearted Christian life, still loving the world, will be left behind. Oh, they can still get to heaven, but it will be through death. It will be HARD. How many times did Jesus tell us to WATCH? CAn you WATCH for His coming while at the same time believing that He will come at the END of the 70th week? Impossible. If you believe He will come at the end to rapture you, then that is where your faith is. That is what you believe.
Hbr 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
WHO shall He appear to? WHO? What does it say? The world? NOT!!
Coop