Some truth about speaking in tongues, the Holy Ghost, spiritual gifts and 1 Corinthians 14
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What kind of cessationists? Like these: "Yet for all that they refuse to hear prophecy says the Lord.
Sounds like its the sign of cessationists. No outward sign for the continualists, they walk by faith, the unseen, spiritual eternal
Spiritual (not having form) gifts not seen Yes .
No literal gifts, seen .Jesus says they have there reward.
In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.!Corinthain14:21-22
Once a person confirms what the sign confirms then the rest of the doctrine falls into place .
Sounds like its the sign of cessationists. No outward sign for the continualists, they walk by faith, the unseen, spiritual eternal
Spiritual (not having form) gifts not seen Yes .
No literal gifts, seen .Jesus says they have there reward.
In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.!Corinthain14:21-22
Once a person confirms what the sign confirms then the rest of the doctrine falls into place .
What nonsense is this?
Of course good Pentecostals hear prophecy!
The gift of prophecy is enjoyed at our Wednesday night and Sunday meetings when people operate this gift for all of us to hear.
Mainstream churches devoid of the gifts of the Holy Spirit never operate the gift of prophecy.
No it those who refute the Pentecostal gospel who refuse to hear prophecy.
Of course good Pentecostals hear prophecy!
The gift of prophecy is enjoyed at our Wednesday night and Sunday meetings when people operate this gift for all of us to hear.
Mainstream churches devoid of the gifts of the Holy Spirit never operate the gift of prophecy.
No it those who refute the Pentecostal gospel who refuse to hear prophecy.
There is absolutely no evidence presented in this video that this woman, Jenn Johnson, has been baptized in the Holy Spirit or that she
speaks in tongues.
It is very indicative of a person who knows something of the Holy Spirit secondhand but not directly.
Anybody talking such rubbish is delusional, and more likely to be a product of your U.S. prosperity gospel.
speaks in tongues.
It is very indicative of a person who knows something of the Holy Spirit secondhand but not directly.
Anybody talking such rubbish is delusional, and more likely to be a product of your U.S. prosperity gospel.
I shouldn't just assume people know who this person is. She is the daughter-in-law of Bill Johnson, Lead Pastor at Bethel Church in Redding California. Along with her husband Brian, they founded Bethel music.
It is hard to overstate just how huge and influential both Bethel Church, and Bethel music are. The number, and seriousness of heresies coming from this Church is staggering. It is important to understand that ALL of these big name Charismatic Churches are interconnected. They speak at each others Churches and conferences, they extol one another, and NONE of them call out the heresies of the others.
There are MORE, but these are some of the big names you've probably heard of, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Joel Osteen, Paula White, Rod Parsley, Todd White, T.D. Jakes, Jesse Duplantis, and although they may not come right out and say it like this woman, they all believe the Holy Spirit is like the Big Blue Genie in Aladdin.
I'd once again urge you to watch this Documentary, which is more about the correct Gospel than anything else, but does an awesome job of exposing the prosperity gospel, and how America is exporting this garbage to poor nations around the World:
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When it comes to signs and wonderment to excite the emotions. The belief system described as a evil generation (non converted ). The Pentecostals become silent and refuse to look to the foundation Isaiah 28 (not Acts 2 the fulfillment)
Mainstream churches walk by faith the eternal not seen. Rightly divide between the thing literal seen and the spiritual not seen .They have no need to invent things that are not there rather than walking by faith (the unseen work of God) .
The sign of tongues, God bring new prophecy as one of the manners says the opposite .The action of those who refuse to look to the foundation of tongues confirm it .Yet for all that they refuse to hear.(cessationists)
Catholisicim does the same create wonderments to be emotionally charged ,Sayin the main line are dead because they understand God is looking for a contrite heart as spiritual charged They believe some things that have to do with the ideas of the Bible .But when it comes to choosing between their new innovation like Pentecostals, tongues without understanding or falling back slain in the Spirit .They make the true foundation of the tongues as to its purpose with the falling backward without effect. Turning things upside down looking to the things seen the temporal rather than the eternal not seen (the faith principle. )
Gift of prophecy as in interpreting sounds without meaning?
I have attended a few. Seems like one big emotion show of wonderment .signs and wonders . The ones Jesus say of those who confuse spiritual .(spirit denoting not seen) gifts for literal supposed gifts seen.
Study the law and the expansion of it in 1 Corinthians 14. It confirms what the sign represents and points to. Then the rest of the doctrine falls into its intended purpose. Edify God. Not one self[/QUOTE]
Mainstream churches walk by faith the eternal not seen. Rightly divide between the thing literal seen and the spiritual not seen .They have no need to invent things that are not there rather than walking by faith (the unseen work of God) .
The sign of tongues, God bring new prophecy as one of the manners says the opposite .The action of those who refuse to look to the foundation of tongues confirm it .Yet for all that they refuse to hear.(cessationists)
Catholisicim does the same create wonderments to be emotionally charged ,Sayin the main line are dead because they understand God is looking for a contrite heart as spiritual charged They believe some things that have to do with the ideas of the Bible .But when it comes to choosing between their new innovation like Pentecostals, tongues without understanding or falling back slain in the Spirit .They make the true foundation of the tongues as to its purpose with the falling backward without effect. Turning things upside down looking to the things seen the temporal rather than the eternal not seen (the faith principle. )
Gift of prophecy as in interpreting sounds without meaning?
I have attended a few. Seems like one big emotion show of wonderment .signs and wonders . The ones Jesus say of those who confuse spiritual .(spirit denoting not seen) gifts for literal supposed gifts seen.
Study the law and the expansion of it in 1 Corinthians 14. It confirms what the sign represents and points to. Then the rest of the doctrine falls into its intended purpose. Edify God. Not one self[/QUOTE]
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getting an education are you?
Johnson was Pentecostal as was his father before him. he changed houses some years back so follow his current path
so you are just shooting in every direction hoping to hit something
again, while I don't agree or practice many things some of the above mentioned people do, I abhor what you are doing
this thread has been taken way off course and your intention is to put people who do not hold to your beliefs on the defensive
the thing is, you present nothing we probably do not already know and will not dissuade anyone already filled with the Holy Spirit to listen to you and turn from the biblical record
therefore, your only hope, in your presentations, is to veer those who have not experienced the infilling, to be turned away
you have no experience or research of your own but just go about youtube hoping to find some lurid evidence of what you believe
I have actually researched the roots of these movements and it is far more complicated then most would bother to understand
so, constantly telling everyone the sky is falling is obviously not working, but it seems to satisfy something in you that will not allow even scripture to speak for itself
Johnson was Pentecostal as was his father before him. he changed houses some years back so follow his current path
so you are just shooting in every direction hoping to hit something
again, while I don't agree or practice many things some of the above mentioned people do, I abhor what you are doing
this thread has been taken way off course and your intention is to put people who do not hold to your beliefs on the defensive
the thing is, you present nothing we probably do not already know and will not dissuade anyone already filled with the Holy Spirit to listen to you and turn from the biblical record
therefore, your only hope, in your presentations, is to veer those who have not experienced the infilling, to be turned away
you have no experience or research of your own but just go about youtube hoping to find some lurid evidence of what you believe
I have actually researched the roots of these movements and it is far more complicated then most would bother to understand
so, constantly telling everyone the sky is falling is obviously not working, but it seems to satisfy something in you that will not allow even scripture to speak for itself
