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Gentiles were called โ€œbad and good.โ€
Gentiles are referred to as "heathens" by the Jews:

And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Gal. 3:8
 
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These christians that are "cross centered" think they are soooo,soooooo,correct in their tireless "correcting" of every single God dynamic into putting Jesus back on that cross.
Never ending salvation.
No alive tangable savior.
They see the entire dynamic as a dead savior still hanging on a cross.

Ever wonder why there is so many "works vs grace" threads (salvation)?

Because a huge percentage of believers are hanging around a cross thinking God is still hanging there.
 
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Gentiles are referred to as "heathens" by the Jews:

And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Gal. 3:8
In the parable the Jews refuse the wedding feast.
The gentile sorta replace them.
So bad and good refers to gentile "replacements"
 
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In the parable the Jews refuse the wedding feast.
The gentile sorta replace them.
So bad and good refers to gentile "replacements"
"both bad and good" (proclaims the fact that the "good" need Salvation as well as the "bad")

"and the wedding was furnished with guests" (respects the redeemed who will be made up of both Jews and Gentiles)


JSM
 

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The Power of Believers:

The scripture says, " Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever you shall bind on Earth shall be bound in Heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose on Earth shall be loosed in Heaven. Matthew 18:18

(if the Believer conducts himself Scripturally, the decision reached will be honored and ratified in Heaven)

JSM
Again, Jesus was speaking to His Apostles, otherwise, how is your 'binding and loosing going?
 

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Got a news flash for you.
Jesus aint on that cross anymore.
Show me anywhere in revelation where Jesus is on the cross or the cross is the center.
Why?
Because the tomb is empty.
The veil is torn.
The king is seated and enthroned.
The cross concerns salvation.
The walk is not the cross. The cross is the dieing to self and salvation.
A beginning.
No other beginning.
The walk has a start. The cross.
It PROCEEDS from there. Establishes who we are. Born again.

We mature into mature saints.
A relationship with a LIVING TANGABLE RESURRECTED SAVIOR.
Not sitting in a church with a NT listening to one salvation message (the cross) after another.
The cross never gets old
The blood never gets old.
But Jesus NEVER appeared to anyone on a cross.

He aint on no cross friend.
Time to place him where he is.
Resurrected and alive.
I see, you haven't a clue what the theology of the cross compared to the theology of glory means. Here is a hint...

Philippians 1:29 (KJV) For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

Turn off TBN and pick up your bible.
 

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Ironic.
How you think 1 peter 4 is just batting the air,then correct anyone on anything.
You think,for some bizare reason ,the Holy Spirit was not imparting a key to understand what a trial really is.
Did you even read 1 peter 4???
I never said 1Pet 4 is just battling the air. Understanding is one thing (which we are given), authority is another, or do you so pompously think you have as much authority as the Apostles did?

Once that key becomes spiritual dna
You will never see a trial the same way.
It is a massive key.
Just a simple basic fact.
Spiritual DNA? Oh please, more mysticism, or are you now claiming to have God's DNA and are an exact replica of God?
Where did you pick up this nonsense from?
My bible says "born again/new nature", why be cute and make up novel unbiblical terms?
Not a fact/not a key.
 
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Again, Jesus was speaking to His Apostles, otherwise, how is your 'binding and loosing going?
I am a federal law enforcement officer for over 30 years, and what I see and do depends on binding and loosing and not myself daily!
 

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Again, Jesus was speaking to His Apostles, otherwise, how is your 'binding and loosing going?
Again, Jesus was speaking to His Apostles, otherwise, how is your 'binding and loosing going?
.... I don't think your intentions are true,nor in agape love. You cannot instruct me not enlighten me not I you it seems,therefore I will not address your comments.I do hope and pray the Holy Spirit will lead you into light!
 

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I am a federal law enforcement officer for over 30 years, and what I see and do depends on binding and loosing and not myself daily!
Yes, and that is through the authority of the State on the general populace, not the Church.
Thank you for your service.
 

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.... I don't think your intentions are true,nor in agape love. You cannot instruct me not enlighten me not I you it seems,therefore I will not address your comments.I do hope and pray the Holy Spirit will lead you into light!
You know, I could care less of your's (or anyone else's) assessment of me. I am not the topic or subject matter..

But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. 1 Corinthians 4:3-4 (KJV)
 
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The key is the gospel of faith it as it is written unlocks the gates of hell setting its prisoners free and binding the great chain of spirit of error the father of lies

Revelation 20:1-3 King James Version (KJV) And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
 

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The key is the gospel of faith it as it is written unlocks the gates of hell setting its prisoners free and binding the great chain of spirit of error the father of lies

Revelation 20:1-3 King James Version (KJV) And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
LOL<that key didn't set the captives free...rather it bound the captor.
 
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Yes, and that is through the authority of the State on the general populace, not the Church. Thank you for your service.
Victory is in Christ and Him Crucified, not the State or I. (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds. 2 Cor. 10:4

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: Acts 1:8

Jesus gave His Disciples dunamis (power), exousia (spiritual authority) and kratos (dominion, strength, power). God gave Jesus this anointing and Jesus has given it to us (followers that are His Disciples).

Dunamis heals the soul and body where it has been wounded by sickness, disease, trauma, and all infirmities. It also deals with all miracles. Dunamis means "excellent of soul." Philippians 3:10, Romans 8:11 NIV

Exousia deals with commanding all demonic forces to leave that have put a person in bondage and strongholds from their sins or however they got permission to afflict you. It gives spiritual authority to the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven to bind and loose in Heaven and Earth.

Kratos gives you dominion (jurisdiction). I will give you every place where you set your foot, as I promised Moses. Joshua 1:3 NIV

Unbelief hinders spiritual authority. Never change the theology of the bible to accommodate something that did not happen based on the way you want it to do and the way you want it to be. Because Gods word is true and every man is a liar. Authority can never be released in silence. The bible says, โ€œOut of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.โ€ The whole idea and reason why the Devil want the Christian believers to keep their mouth shut is because if you donโ€™t speak, spirits donโ€™t leave.
 

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Is that because in your book there is no right or wrong? I dislike deception and will confront it when possible. You may embrace it if you wish.
A member enthusiastically relates her spiritual experience and right away you throw a wet blanket over her with your needless nitpicking. Instead of offering encouragement you chose to discourage in your effort to prove your moral superiority. Others have done the same thing in other threads so your not alone in this by any means. Your display was not very Christ-like regardless if you were right or wrong. I normally agree with a lot of your posts but this time you went off on a wild tangent of some sorts. Don't be discouraged though because I have been wrong before too so you're in good company. Nobody's perfect.
 

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Hello! Believing in God is always the key. Believe that we are forgiven by His blood and saved by His grace. Prayer is the number one key to be closer to God. We will receive His power through praise, meditate through His Word, being filled with the Holy Spirit, daily walk with God, and by clinging to the cross. When we unlock God's power, we will be able to fight enemies.
You are certainly on the right spiritual track. Glad to have you join our family of believers. Looking forward to your posts. Welcome to CC.