Who do you think is the leader of the American Deep State?

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Nehemiah6

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Without the help of the Russians, Hillary would have won the election.
Why is this STUPID MYTH continuing to make the rounds?

Hillary was in COLLUSION with the Russians, yet she was totally unfit to be anything other than a jailbird. She really should have been locked up for her treason and her misdeeds, and Trump let her remain free.
 
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The Leadership of the Deep State now is up for grabs lol the liberal traitors are having their primaries and debates now and oh boy is it a total circus of clowns scrambling around. I mean I think that Uncle Joe is easily the anointed successor but can he hang on against the challenge from Obama's mistress Kamala? I personally think after the stunning defeat President Trump and the coalition of real Murican patriots and citizens will inflict upon them will break the back of their party so violently that the real fear ought to be the new foreign feisty invaders like that AOC or the Taliban woman will usurp power of a major American political party.

This is going to be the most important and momentous election in history, and this is one of the most pivotal moments in history and time itself, it's nearing the End. MAGA or martyrdom, we must absolutely smash the traitors and communists and globalists and foreigners and Babylonian hordes or they have promised outrightly to martyr us for Lord Jesus if they retake power and return us sevenfold worse to the system of globalist tyranny that was before Trump all my lifetime. This a fight for our survival oh Gen Z and Millennials. Praise Jesus.
 

calibob

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#46
You don't think that the USA will miss the great tribulation or the Lord's judgement of the nations do you? I agree with you that the worst of society is now in charge of the nation but if we drain the swamp for real we would need to start with lobbyists, Big oil, Big Pharma, Big Banker, wall street, Federal reserve and war mongering weapons panderers. It won't happen! I feel the end is insight. crimes against humanity are nearly overshadowed by crimes against the planet. The devil is taking over. We must choose whether to obey God's laws or mans laws. Both parties are equally corrupt. What is more important, The US Constitution or the word of God? The Lord and our neighbors or the moneychangers the Sorcerers and Satanic abortionistic pro Antichrists. All kingdoms and nations will fall in the end. Join the Lords side or get left behind and suffer the consequences.
 

Nehemiah6

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I personally think after the stunning defeat President Trump and the coalition of real Murican patriots and citizens will inflict upon them will break the back of their party so violently that the real fear ought to be the new foreign feisty invaders
Americans should clearly understand that the Democrats plan TO STEAL THE ELECTIONS this time around.

Everything will be rigged, including the voting machines, and voter fraud is going to be perpetrated like never before. I don't believe Mr. Trump has addressed this issue properly, and with all the illegals who have come in over the last two years (and all the millions from before), he may find that a feckless Democrat may be elected in spite of his best efforts. Ilhan Omar has committed all kinds of fraud, yet she was elected to office. Think of millions of fraudulent votes because no one has properly addressed this issue.
 
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Americans should clearly understand that the Democrats plan TO STEAL THE ELECTIONS this time around.

Everything will be rigged, including the voting machines, and voter fraud is going to be perpetrated like never before. I don't believe Mr. Trump has addressed this issue properly, and with all the illegals who have come in over the last two years (and all the millions from before), he may find that a feckless Democrat may be elected in spite of his best efforts. Ilhan Omar has committed all kinds of fraud, yet she was elected to office. Think of millions of fraudulent votes because no one has properly addressed this issue.
This is a great point! Of course also don't forget how they tried to rig the 2016 elections so nakedly (and hilariously still lost, all the praise is to Jesus.) While the democrat traitors and their foreign invader lovers are ridiculous, let's not forget about our greater enemy here, which is complacency. We cannot afford to take this election for granted even though our foes are utterly degenerate and stupid, in fact it is for the very reason that the globalists are so utterly wicked and deranged that we must fight as hard as we can to ensure four more years of President Trump!
 

calibob

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This is a great point! Of course also don't forget how they tried to rig the 2016 elections so nakedly (and hilariously still lost, all the praise is to Jesus.) While the democrat traitors and their foreign invader lovers are ridiculous, let's not forget about our greater enemy here, which is complacency. We cannot afford to take this election for granted even though our foes are utterly degenerate and stupid, in fact it is for the very reason that the globalists are so utterly wicked and deranged that we must fight as hard as we can to ensure four more years of President Trump!
You've got my message wrong,,, Totally! The RNC is as crooked as the DNC. I quit voting along party lines because both parties are corrupt to the core. How can we have an honest election of the people for the people and by the people if the candidates are picked by committees? And both sides are corrupt? I only vote on issues and bills not for people any more. It's like there is no such thing as middle of the road any more.

I have ZERO faith in either side any more. This country will be judged and it won't be pretty.

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UnderGrace

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All means ALL! No matter how they started they have all fallen to Ego, Greed and corruption. None will escape his wrath in the end.
All countries have always been that way.
 
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UnderGrace

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My point is we are not exempt. It's delusional to believe otherwise.
Well I do have close relatives that live in the United States and travel there quite often, but I only know them lol.... would you say the Americans think think they are exempt?

It seems to me that many Americans that think America is Babylon do think America is under judgement, but I would think as you state there are many people that think everything is fine?

So what is your experience since yo live in the US?
 

calibob

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Well I do have close relatives that live in the United States and travel there quite often, but I only know them lol.... would you say the Americans think think they are exempt?

It seems to me that many Americans that think America is Babylon do think America is under judgement, but I would think as you state there are many people that think everything is fine?

So what is your experience since yo live in the US?
Many people think that the US is a Christian nation but the number os pseudo christian out number those that have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. The worship flags, sexuality, TV, sports and money. they think by just going a church any church and throwing a couple bucks it the plate or basket on Sunday, then go home to watch sports and drink beer is enough.

I think the US had a lot of good ideas in the beginning but the greed took over. The US is a Better country than most if not all others but It's certainly not a Christ centered Christian nation. It's a nation with a lot of, yet still, a minority of Christians in it. many think our president is chosen by God and all the laws must be obeyed even if in conflict with the word. But the word says;
Acts 4:18-21 18Then they called them (Peter & John) in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19But Peter and John replied, "Which is right in God's eyes: to listen to you, or to him? You be the judges! 20As for us, we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard." 21After further Acts 4:18-21 18Then they called them in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19But Peter and John replied, "Which is right in God's eyes: to listen to you, or to him? You be the judges! 20As for us, we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard." 21After further threats they let them go. They could not decide how to punish them, because all the people were praising God for what had happened.

In short they were ordered not to preach. You know what they did! They went back out and obeyed God's law and preached. Yes they were eventually cursed by the law. Peter was crucified and John was left to starve to death, Alone, on an island. But the example they Paul and all of the first apostles set are the one to live by.
 

calibob

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Many people think that the US is a Christian nation but the number of pseudo christians out number those that have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. They worship flags, sexuality, TV, sports, drugs, personalites and money. they think by just going a church, any church and throwing a couple bucks it the plate or basket on Sunday, then they go home to watch sports and drink beer.

I think the US had a lot of good ideas in the beginning but the greed took over. The US is a better country than most if not all others. It's certainly not a Christ centered Christian nation. It's a nation with a lot of, yet still, a minority of Christians in it. many think our president is chosen by God and all the laws must be obeyed even if in conflict with the word. But the word says;
Acts 4:18-21 18Then they called them in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19But Peter and John replied, "Which is right in God's eyes: to listen to you, or to him? You be the judges! 20As for us, we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard." 21After further threats they let them go. They could not decide how to punish them, because all the people were praising God for what had happened.

In short they were ordered not to preach. You know what they did! They went back out and obeyed God's law and preached. Yes they were eventually cursed by the law. Peter was crucified and John was left to starve to death, Alone, on an island. But the example they Paul and all of the first apostles set are the one to live by.
I'm sorry. my skype phone was ringing off the hook and I got distracted. so I posted without editing rather than answer my skype and loose what I had written. The edits are in blue. My computer is middle age maybe 12 years old upgraded with 2, 3 gig ram cards and a 5 inch external drive. xternal router for wify and a 1 earpiece head set. No speakers. I hope it lasts a few more years.

Are computers like cars? when they get over 20 years old does the value start to increase? :ROFL:
 

Oncefallen

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I'm sorry. my skype phone was ringing off the hook and I got distracted. so I posted without editing rather than answer my skype and loose what I had written. The edits are in blue. My computer is middle age maybe 12 years old upgraded with 2, 3 gig ram cards and a 5 inch external drive. xternal router for wify and a 1 earpiece head set. No speakers. I hope it lasts a few more years.

Are computers like cars? when they get over 20 years old does the value start to increase? :ROFL:
Not so much at 20 years, but some of the original Apple computers (think 1970's) are now hitting collector status (and value).
 

Hillfarm

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Really? Look at the top GOP, Ryan, Nunes and Gowdy. They are trying to destroy the investigation into Russian spying, Why, Why, Why?

Why would republicans want to stop an investigation into an attack by Russia? A Russian spy ring, operating in the USA?

Why won't they make ANY effort at all to stop the continued attack on Americans?

Why hasn't the Republicans and Trump been outraged by the attack on our nation and taken steps to stop them?

Because they are pat of the conspiracy and are as guilty as Trump. Knowing that the election monies and propaganda campaign were sponsored by Russia through the NRA and other sources.

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You want proof? The proof is the the GOP leaders and Trump are siding with the Russian spies and Putin against Americans.

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What proof?
 

Hillfarm

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Are you really sourcing MSLSD, I mean, MSNBC, as a reliable source? Those conspiracy theorist do entertain, but so does wrestling, and I find them both about equally plausible.