Didn’t God make all things Good?

[TheWind]

Jesus is the light of the world.

Do you think you could ask less questions maybe.
You really have not clearly stated what you believe.

Even if scripture does make a clear statement on the creation of Satan, it does not mean that he was not created by God.
God does not tell us everything.

Nothing will stay hidden. Everything shall be revealed. I am speaking by faith.. and speak what I believe. And you attack me every time.. how can you say I haven’t stated my belief? What are you commenting on then?

 

[UnderGrace]

Nothing will stay hidden. Everything shall be revealed. I am speaking by faith.. and speak what I believe. And you attack me every time.. how can you say I haven’t stated my belief? What are you commenting on then?

The main word in that sentence is "clearly"
You are reading way to much emotion into by responses.

 

[TheWind]

Jesus is the light of the world.

Do you think you could ask less questions maybe.
You really have not clearly stated what you believe.

Even if scripture does make a clear statement on the creation of Satan, it does not mean that he was not created by God.
God does not tell us everything.

Isn’t God similar to a question?? (I Only say Because God is a mystery to men) afteralll god knows who he is before anybody else...and He also said to seek the truth and get understanding... How can you do that without asking yourself questions?? I asked a question about a snake. And rivalry began.. Is God not the God of both, Evil and Good? And if you say he is not the God of evil? Then how does he have full control over it?....And how did he use it to take Jesus to the Cross? Your supposed to love and pray for your enemy.. but your hating on a fellow believer... I don’t worship Satan... nor do I believe in the power of the dark... because once God turns on the light, darkness has to leave.. therefore it’s irrelevant... kind of like a dead and dumb spirit... the knowledge of God casts light in shadowy places...

 

[TheWind]

The main word in that sentence is "clearly"
You are reading way to much emotion into by responses.

You want to cast emotion off a God of Love... why would you do that? God is Love. Is that not an emotion?? Who are you??

 

[PennEd]

Who are you to give people labels??? Your label doesn’t effect me.. although you may try to affect someone else... I hope you don’t think so... I am still who I am with or without your belief.. maybe Jesus came to defend the sinners against men like you.. proclaiming to have it all figured out to condemn others...
The Jews called Jesus prince of the devils for his doctrine, so what he spoke out of his mouth.... and out of his heart... and they thought he was of The Devil... who gives you the right to label another man? I thought only God could judge?

Ooh OOh! I get to be the 1st to say Undegrace is a WOMAN! Cool.

 

[CharliRenee]

Jesus is the light of the world.

Do you think you could ask less questions maybe.
You really have not clearly stated what you believe.

Even if scripture does make a clear statement on the creation of Satan, it does not mean that he was not created by God.
God does not tell us everything.

I have to ask, lol..

Does creating something, or someone with the potential not to choose the way of God mean to you that God created evil, their choice to drive into the ditch? Our God did not create a bunch of dieties able to go around run a muck. Yes He is all powerful, all knowing. And He is not scheming, He loves us enough to give us choice, and His only begotten Son to save us when our choices run to loveless chaos, away from God. We ALL will always need Jesus. I am so grateful. Because of Lucifers choice for chaos, he became the Satan we know and hopefully reject today.

I prefer looking at the light, Jesus Christ. Satan doesn't deserve my pondering.

As far as speculation on things not spoken in the word...

To quote another member here...


Don't make it up, look it up (in the word).

 

[PennEd]

Listen carefully, a Luciferian is a person who worships Lucifer as "light bearer".... the reason I say this is because there is no Lucifer so it is unreal.... it is all in their head.

Does this post mean that you do not think Satan exists?

 

[TheWind]

The main word in that sentence is "clearly"
You are reading way to much emotion into by responses.

Besides. I imagine God to be passionate for his creation. And passionate for the truth!! Maybe your heart is hardened .. don’t try to cast my truth of as nothing other than Love... I am still speaking to you now because of passion... I wanted to put my phone down .. but I won’t let the devils words convince me that my voice is a waste of time... even if you get nothing off of this post. Even if one person reads and hears... it is a benefit to me...

 

[PennEd]

Besides. I imagine God to be passionate for his creation. And passionate for the truth!! Maybe your heart is hardened .. don’t try to cast my truth of as nothing other than Love... I am still speaking to you now because of passion... I wanted to put my phone down .. but I won’t let the devils words convince me that my voice is a waste of time... even if you get nothing off of this post. Even if one person reads and hears... it is a benefit to me...

Can you quantify, in one coherent post, exactly what you DO believe, in regards to who satan is and where he came from?

 

[TheWind]

Ooh OOh! I get to be the 1st to say Undegrace is a WOMAN! Cool.

Whether woman or man... with God all men are with no respect to persons... The image is the same! God does not change !! He creates change. He moves... and things change when he moves ...

 

[TheWind]

Can you quantify, in one coherent post, exactly what you DO believe, in regards to who satan is and where he came from?

I spoke it already in another post. And was ridiculed. Please, Why do you ask?
May I ask what you believe first? Therefore, we will know whether you ask because you seek my understanding, or you ask so you can challenge me?

 

[UnderGrace]

Can you quantify, in one coherent post, exactly what you DO believe, in regards to who satan is and where he came from?

Thank you, I was thinking it was me for a moment...LOL

 

[JohnRH]

Why do people think the serpent is bad? Didn’t God say all things were Good? I never read that God spoke Satan into creation... so where does evil come from? Is our ignorance the darkness?

God made the serpent good. Then the serpent turned bad.

 

[TheWind]

Thank you, I was thinking it was me for a moment...LOL

(Paraphrasing to say the least)

I stated my belief .. Man was made in Gods image... darkness was present in the beginning.. and then God divided the light from the darkness.. Satan is darkness in the earth.. in many forms. Including the Ignorance of the knowledge of God... and similar to a man.. he exalts his knowledge against Gods.. because he thinks he knows it all... but God uses his darkness for Good. ( Do you think of Judah would have had the knowledge of Joseph being Lord over the land, that he would h

 

[UnderGrace]

I have to ask, lol..

Does creating something, or someone with the potential not to choose the way of God mean to you that God created evil, their choice to drive into the ditch? Our God did not create a bunch of dieties able to go around run a muck. Yes He is all powerful, all knowing. And He is not scheming, He loves us enough to give us choice, and His only begotten Son to save us when our choices run to loveless chaos, away from God. We ALL will always need Jesus. I am so grateful. Because of Lucifers choice for chaos, he became the Satan we know and hopefully reject today.

I prefer looking at the light, Jesus Christ. Satan doesn't deserve my pondering.

As far as speculation on things not spoken in the word...

To quote another member here...


Don't make it up, look it up (in the word).

I agree.
Lucifer is Latin for "light bearer" and it was St. Jerome who made the error, there is also evidence it was not a reference to Satan.

 

[TheWind]

(Paraphrasing to say the least)

I stated my belief .. Man was made in Gods image... darkness was present in the beginning.. and then God divided the light from the darkness.. Satan is darkness in the earth.. in many forms. Including the Ignorance of the knowledge of God... and similar to a man.. he exalts his knowledge against Gods.. because he thinks he knows it all... but God uses his darkness for Good. ( Do you think of Judah would have had the knowledge of Joseph being Lord over the land, that he would h

Sorry hit the wrong button! Lol
Do you think that Judah would have thrown Joseph in a pit and sold him off to slaves had he known that he would’ve bowed to him later on in life.. to God not use their envy and jealousy and darkness and lack of knowledge for the good of the land!!

 

[UnderGrace]

darkness was present in the beginning

I guess this is the point of contention then.

Are you equating darkness with evil?

 

[TheWind]

Sorry hit the wrong button! Lol
Do you think that Judah would have thrown Joseph in a pit and sold him off to slaves had he known that he would’ve bowed to him later on in life.. to God not use their envy and jealousy and darkness and lack of knowledge for the good of the land!!

I believe darkness. Is like ignorance. But God did make a woman to replace what wasn’t there at first...
and what was joined is still joined. God never divorced his people.. he just uses men’s ignorance for their Good..

 

[TheWind]

I guess this is the point of contention then.

Are you equating darkness with evil?

Absolutely. Are men not afraid of the dark? If so why would you need light? What would guide you?

 

[UnderGrace]

Does this post mean that you do not think Satan exists?

I do absolutely believe Satan exists, I think St. Jerome made an error when translating the Hebrew and translated a Hebrew word as "light bearer" and then put a capital on it making it someone's name which it was not.

This works well for those freemasons which I know you are well aware of.