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why should these companies be free from rules? you know these rules were all implimented after the great depression to prevent it from happening again, great depression is what you get when the rules are removed. the great economic years of the 40s - 60s are a result of these rules. they started getting rolled back in the 70s and what happened, the wages all went down along with cost of living going up, great idea getting rid of those rules!
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So your example of the poor lady was just fake news.
I am well aware of Walmart practices and I have never defended them.
My issue is that you and so many other put all the fault on Walmart and all large companies and refuse to accept the role that we all as consumers have played in Walmart's success.
If you and I and all other consumers had not flocked to Walmart and their cheap product at cheap prices they would never have succeeded.
Man up and accept the fact that we the consumer are responsible for the state of the business world.
I am well aware of Walmart practices and I have never defended them.
My issue is that you and so many other put all the fault on Walmart and all large companies and refuse to accept the role that we all as consumers have played in Walmart's success.
If you and I and all other consumers had not flocked to Walmart and their cheap product at cheap prices they would never have succeeded.
Man up and accept the fact that we the consumer are responsible for the state of the business world.
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That a workman is worthy of his pay, do not muzzle the ox, here's a goodie: James 5:1-6 1Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the LORD Almighty. 5You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. 6You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.
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my example was that of thousands of towns across america.
what i dont get is how you can turn a blind eye to how walmart is able to offer these low prices. they dont get there by taking less of a profit, they get there by bullying other biz and manipulating the "free" market making it a very unfair market.
small town consumers dont have another option, 3rd or 4th time now this has been pointed out to you. strange how ignore this fact while at the same time say you dont defend them.
i know of a few little rock walmarts that closed up due to lack of biz. interesting when people actually do have choices (big cities)they chose someone other than walmart. it seems the walmart biz plan if very dependent on running all the other biz out, with out this the model collapses.
what i dont get is how you can turn a blind eye to how walmart is able to offer these low prices. they dont get there by taking less of a profit, they get there by bullying other biz and manipulating the "free" market making it a very unfair market.
small town consumers dont have another option, 3rd or 4th time now this has been pointed out to you. strange how ignore this fact while at the same time say you dont defend them.
i know of a few little rock walmarts that closed up due to lack of biz. interesting when people actually do have choices (big cities)they chose someone other than walmart. it seems the walmart biz plan if very dependent on running all the other biz out, with out this the model collapses.
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They reached the ability to bully others because in the past consumers flocked to buy their cheap goods and continue to do so. They are only giving the consumer what they want.
I do not turn a blind eye to what they do. That is why I do not shop there.
I am just trying to get you to understand the role that the consumer has played in their success.
Those small towns you mention are few in number.
And those people brought the situation upon themselves when they flocked into the store during the grand opening.
If they had not flocked their for those cheap prices the store would have closed very soon.
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i guess us small town people dont count?
the role the consumer plays only makes walmart just another retailer. when walmart starts with their shady biz practices is what places them above the rest.
the grand opening could not have happened without the tax money walmart steals from the common working man.
the role the consumer plays only makes walmart just another retailer. when walmart starts with their shady biz practices is what places them above the rest.
the grand opening could not have happened without the tax money walmart steals from the common working man.
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When a drug dealer is caught selling narcotics dosn't the courts punish him more than the customers? Low prices are the temptation that has people flocking there. The goods are mainly made in socialist or Maoist countries at near slave wages. It only makes more sence to punish the suppliers more than the customers. The tax payers and employees are getting sodomized. Why should the government let them get away with it?
Preamble to the Constitution
Preamble to the Constitution
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Any questions?
Any questions?
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The Gettysburg Address
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.-Abraham Lincoln
"We must especially beware of that small group of selfish men who would clip the wings of the American Eagle in order to feather their own nests." ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt
"True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made." ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.-Abraham Lincoln
"We must especially beware of that small group of selfish men who would clip the wings of the American Eagle in order to feather their own nests." ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt
"True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made." ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt
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I sincerely believe... that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson
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It was the crash of 29 combined with the dust bowl. My father was a refugee from Texas. The Banks went bust the dust bowl wiped out the crops. There was no money to be had and another bank took over and foreclosed on the farms that had been destroyed. But the prior bank had lost what savings the farmers had. They were left with nothing. My fathers family had to pick fruit, cotton and take whatever work they could find to eat, buy gas and keep on going to California. Grandpa had a cousin who lived near Sacramento that took them in. The were hated and called Okies by the locals. Grandpa got a job in a gas station my Uncle Woodie & Dad joined the Civilian Conservation Corps. Their pay was automatically forwarded by the corps to Grandma. I think they got $5 per week a piece to build roads through the Sierras which included using dynamite on tree stumps and boulders in the way. Moving to L.A. Harbor to work in a Fish cannery in 1939 was a step up for them. When they retired, their homes were both paid for. No mortgage payments. Social Security + $300 a month cannery workers pension was enough to carry them through till God took them home. I their 80's They both died of mesothelioma in their 80's. They were born in 1913 & 1914 and died 2 mos, apart from the same thing caused by exposure to asbestos. They were both to old to receive anything from the class action suit.
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An Okie is a resident, native, or cultural descendant of Oklahoma. It is derived from the name of the state, similar to Texan or Tex for someone from Texas, or Arkie or Arkansawyer for a native of Arkansas.
In the 1920s in California, the term (often used in contempt) came to refer to very poor migrants from Oklahoma (and nearby states). The Dust Bowl and the "Okie" migration of the 1930s brought in over a million newly displaced people; many headed to the farm labor jobs advertised in California's Central Valley.
In the 1920s in California, the term (often used in contempt) came to refer to very poor migrants from Oklahoma (and nearby states). The Dust Bowl and the "Okie" migration of the 1930s brought in over a million newly displaced people; many headed to the farm labor jobs advertised in California's Central Valley.
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I always chuckle when people claim that the rollback of regulation is what has caused the supposed shrinking middle class when in reality what has changed is what classifies someone as middle class.
In the 70's the vast majority of "middle class households had 1 car, 1 color TV, 1 landline, no computer, (you get the idea), the average home was 1,100 sq ft.
Now in 2019 that same household has at least 2 cars, multiple large flat screen TV's, a cell phone for every family member above 10 or 12, numerous computers and the average home size is 2500 sq ft.
Cars cost a lot more (compared to income regardless of inflation) because what was considered the "base" model is the 70's (manual windows and door locks, no AC, manual trans, manual steering, AM/FM radio only) doesn't exist any more and all those features forced in by regulation (that used to be optional) such as air bags, ABS, along with minimum fuel economy standards drive up the cost of manufacturing that vehicle. I'm not arguing that safety features are a bad thing, just that they drive up the cost of a vehicle.
Homes (even a small home) costs more to build today than they did in the 70's due to similar regulatory causes. Most homes in the 70's were framed with 2x4 exterior walls and had single pane windows. Now national code requires a minimum of a 2x6 exterior wall (to allow for more insulation), double pane windows, and increased insulation standards for attics. Increased efficiency standards has driven up the cost of furnaces, hot water heaters and other home appliances. Increased electricity usage (due to all the extra electric toys we have now) means that the average home has a boat load more outlets and wire in the same square footage.
Simply put, yes the cost of living has dramatically increased in relation to wages but in reality not so much as you would think if you were to consider the fact that the standard of living has changed dramatically.
In the 70's the vast majority of "middle class households had 1 car, 1 color TV, 1 landline, no computer, (you get the idea), the average home was 1,100 sq ft.
Now in 2019 that same household has at least 2 cars, multiple large flat screen TV's, a cell phone for every family member above 10 or 12, numerous computers and the average home size is 2500 sq ft.
Cars cost a lot more (compared to income regardless of inflation) because what was considered the "base" model is the 70's (manual windows and door locks, no AC, manual trans, manual steering, AM/FM radio only) doesn't exist any more and all those features forced in by regulation (that used to be optional) such as air bags, ABS, along with minimum fuel economy standards drive up the cost of manufacturing that vehicle. I'm not arguing that safety features are a bad thing, just that they drive up the cost of a vehicle.
Homes (even a small home) costs more to build today than they did in the 70's due to similar regulatory causes. Most homes in the 70's were framed with 2x4 exterior walls and had single pane windows. Now national code requires a minimum of a 2x6 exterior wall (to allow for more insulation), double pane windows, and increased insulation standards for attics. Increased efficiency standards has driven up the cost of furnaces, hot water heaters and other home appliances. Increased electricity usage (due to all the extra electric toys we have now) means that the average home has a boat load more outlets and wire in the same square footage.
Simply put, yes the cost of living has dramatically increased in relation to wages but in reality not so much as you would think if you were to consider the fact that the standard of living has changed dramatically.
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