Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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Do you love God with all your heart (A COMMAND) to be justified? Do you love your neighbor as yourself (A COMMAND) to be justified? Do I try to not break any of the other commands to be justified? NO. NOT TO BE JUSTIFIED BUT, you see, you make a law unto yourself and when I go against "your law" your reply is I am doing it to be justified, while at the very same time you are doing exactly as I am, just with different commands.
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Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Please explain what this means
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
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It is a commandment. Does that make it a law?
Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with
all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it:
‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:37-41
Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love
one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. Romans 13:8
Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with
all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it:
‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:37-41
Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love
one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. Romans 13:8
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I get that, I also want truth and through the years I have realized I am continually learning, I think God for that.
I quoted tis verse before but want to post it again, please consider what Jesus is saying, could we reason upon His words here?
John 14:23-26, " 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. 25 These things have I spoken unto you, being [yet] present with you. 26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy SPirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
In verse 25 He says "These things have I spoken unto you, being [yet] present with you.
SO we know, according to Jesus own words that the words that matter most are the ones He spoke while in the flesh, I would ask how you view this verse?
and in verse 26, Jesus says "the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
The the Holy Spirit will bring THOSE words to memory, so there is not doing away with His teachings while He was in the flesh, I think that is clear, but again I ask your view on this verse?
Also this supports that idea:
Matt 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”
Finally I would like to point out there is no seperate doctrine for Jews and Gentiles:
Matthew 28:19-20, “Therefore, as you go, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you each and every day until the end of the age.”
Acts 1:6-8, " 6 So when they had come together, they asked him, “Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
Luke 24:44-49, “44 Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” 45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46 and said to them, “Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead, 47 and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem. 48 You are witnesses of these things. 49 And behold, I am sending the promise of my Father upon you. But stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high.”
Marcelo, may we please reason on His words in honesty, please consider His words for what they say. Please do not just go to another verse right away, we can consider all the word indeed, but I ask that we reason togather on is words and seek to understand what they mean. I say this with honesty.
I quoted tis verse before but want to post it again, please consider what Jesus is saying, could we reason upon His words here?
John 14:23-26, " 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. 25 These things have I spoken unto you, being [yet] present with you. 26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy SPirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
In verse 25 He says "These things have I spoken unto you, being [yet] present with you.
SO we know, according to Jesus own words that the words that matter most are the ones He spoke while in the flesh, I would ask how you view this verse?
and in verse 26, Jesus says "the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
The the Holy Spirit will bring THOSE words to memory, so there is not doing away with His teachings while He was in the flesh, I think that is clear, but again I ask your view on this verse?
Also this supports that idea:
Matt 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”
Finally I would like to point out there is no seperate doctrine for Jews and Gentiles:
Matthew 28:19-20, “Therefore, as you go, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you each and every day until the end of the age.”
Acts 1:6-8, " 6 So when they had come together, they asked him, “Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
Luke 24:44-49, “44 Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” 45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46 and said to them, “Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead, 47 and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem. 48 You are witnesses of these things. 49 And behold, I am sending the promise of my Father upon you. But stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high.”
Marcelo, may we please reason on His words in honesty, please consider His words for what they say. Please do not just go to another verse right away, we can consider all the word indeed, but I ask that we reason togather on is words and seek to understand what they mean. I say this with honesty.
So then breaking "a law" will be forgiven. Once forgiven you are no longer "a breaker of the law". So you don't need to follow perfectly, but you do have to try.
You receive an extra 10 dollars in change, "you say out of "love" you give it back" I say "out of love" I give it back and acknowledge the command of not to steal" Do we both follow the same law? Yes. Do you say it different. Yes. Do we think it different? Yes. In the end is it the same? Yes.
Now let us move past US and move on to the command given us to
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost
" to a "baby" Christian. Over simplified but If you do not teach "don't steal", he keeps the change not knowing he is breaking a command. I teach "God says don't steal is a command of God" ALONG WITH the love we are to walk in.
What happens to the one who only knows to love and walk in love? He walks in love in his own imagination.
What happens to the one who is "taught" Gods commands? He walks in love following and obeying God.
You receive an extra 10 dollars in change, "you say out of "love" you give it back" I say "out of love" I give it back and acknowledge the command of not to steal" Do we both follow the same law? Yes. Do you say it different. Yes. Do we think it different? Yes. In the end is it the same? Yes.
Now let us move past US and move on to the command given us to
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost
" to a "baby" Christian. Over simplified but If you do not teach "don't steal", he keeps the change not knowing he is breaking a command. I teach "God says don't steal is a command of God" ALONG WITH the love we are to walk in.
What happens to the one who only knows to love and walk in love? He walks in love in his own imagination.
What happens to the one who is "taught" Gods commands? He walks in love following and obeying God.
I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me in leading the Gentiles to obey God by what I have said and done— Romans 15:18
The apostle Paul is clear about his intentions and ministry. The question is, were you led to obey God? What can Paul say about it?
...the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Romans 8:7
Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks. Luke 6:44-45
What's in your heart?
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor? James 4:11-12
“You have said harsh things against me,” says the Lord. “Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’ “You have said, ‘It is futile to serve God. What did we gain by carrying out his requirements and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly the evildoers prosper, and even those who challenge God escape.’” Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name. “They will be mine,” says the Lord Almighty, “in the day when I make up my treasured possession. I will spare them, just as in compassion a man spares his son who serves him. And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not. Malachi 3:13-18
Do you serve God? What do you teach?
...and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” Matthew 28:19-20 (Ref: John 14:20-24)
“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” “Which ones?” the man inquired. Jesus replied, “‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’ Matthew 19:16-30
Do you believe what Jesus said here and are you willing to accept and obey what He said?
“Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? Luke 6:44-46
The Master's word/s is a law to His servants, written on their hearts.
Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and walk in Love.
God is good and His Love endures forever. Amen.
The apostle Paul is clear about his intentions and ministry. The question is, were you led to obey God? What can Paul say about it?
...the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Romans 8:7
Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks. Luke 6:44-45
What's in your heart?
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor? James 4:11-12
“You have said harsh things against me,” says the Lord. “Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’ “You have said, ‘It is futile to serve God. What did we gain by carrying out his requirements and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly the evildoers prosper, and even those who challenge God escape.’” Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name. “They will be mine,” says the Lord Almighty, “in the day when I make up my treasured possession. I will spare them, just as in compassion a man spares his son who serves him. And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not. Malachi 3:13-18
Do you serve God? What do you teach?
...and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” Matthew 28:19-20 (Ref: John 14:20-24)
“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” “Which ones?” the man inquired. Jesus replied, “‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’ Matthew 19:16-30
Do you believe what Jesus said here and are you willing to accept and obey what He said?
“Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? Luke 6:44-46
The Master's word/s is a law to His servants, written on their hearts.
Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and walk in Love.
God is good and His Love endures forever. Amen.
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Gives us the meaning to:
2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
2 Timothy 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
2 Timothy 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
To be of use to the Master we must know the masters rules of the house.
2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
2 Timothy 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
2 Timothy 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
To be of use to the Master we must know the masters rules of the house.
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The law of Moses was made for use within the only true theocracy that ever existed. If it is fully applied elsewhere it will conflict with local laws. For example: What country today would permit the killing of adulterers? Only a few Islamic countries, maybe.
No, I'm not inferring that the laws of God are applicable only within the geographical boundaries of a theocratic state. But, as I said above, the Old Covenant laws cannot be fully applied in any country whereas the New Covenant laws can. What country requires citizens to be liars, thieves, slanderers, fornicators, adulterers, etc? What country will prohibit citizens to love one another?
No, I'm not inferring that the laws of God are applicable only within the geographical boundaries of a theocratic state. But, as I said above, the Old Covenant laws cannot be fully applied in any country whereas the New Covenant laws can. What country requires citizens to be liars, thieves, slanderers, fornicators, adulterers, etc? What country will prohibit citizens to love one another?
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No, you did not, you are correct. I went back and read it and it did come off that way. That was not my intention. I apologize for the poor communication.
Please let me rephrase. If you break a law and repent is it forgiven? If it is, are you still considered a "law breaker with a sentence of death"?
Please let me rephrase. If you break a law and repent is it forgiven? If it is, are you still considered a "law breaker with a sentence of death"?
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As God’s fellow workers we urge you not to receive God’s grace in vain. 2 Corinthians 6:1
For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. Jude 1:4
We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. 1 John 2:3-6
Being under the grace of God gives us hope and a chance to live according to the Spirit and His perfect will by dying to our old sinful nature with It's sinful desires.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God afore prepared that we should walk in them. Ephesians 2:10
For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God. Romans 8:1-17
you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 1 Peter 2:5
Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. Romans 12:1-2
A person under grace does not nullify the law by their faith, they uphold the law by their faith through the power of the Holy Spirit that is leading and helping them meet the righteous requirements of the law.
But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 2 Corinthians 12:9-10
The Master's word/s is a law to His servants, written on their hearts.
Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and walk in Love.
God is good and His Love endures forever. Amen.
For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. Jude 1:4
We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. 1 John 2:3-6
Being under the grace of God gives us hope and a chance to live according to the Spirit and His perfect will by dying to our old sinful nature with It's sinful desires.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God afore prepared that we should walk in them. Ephesians 2:10
For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God. Romans 8:1-17
you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 1 Peter 2:5
Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. Romans 12:1-2
A person under grace does not nullify the law by their faith, they uphold the law by their faith through the power of the Holy Spirit that is leading and helping them meet the righteous requirements of the law.
But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 2 Corinthians 12:9-10
The Master's word/s is a law to His servants, written on their hearts.
Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and walk in Love.
God is good and His Love endures forever. Amen.
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Matt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
WHOSOEVER BREAKS THE LEAST OF THESE COMMANDMENTS AND TEACHES MEN SO SHALL BE CALLED LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE CALLED LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN?
The following verse starts with the word for. It is translated from the Greek word gar.
G1063 γάρ gar (ğar') conj.
(properly) assigning a reason.
{(used in argument, explanation or intensification; often with other particles)}
In other words what follows the word for (gar) is an explanation to what was just previously stated.
Matt 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
So to be called least in the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN means you shall in NO case ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.
WHOSOEVER BREAKS THE LEAST OF THESE COMMANDMENTS AND TEACHES MEN SO SHALL BE CALLED LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE CALLED LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN?
The following verse starts with the word for. It is translated from the Greek word gar.
G1063 γάρ gar (ğar') conj.
(properly) assigning a reason.
{(used in argument, explanation or intensification; often with other particles)}
In other words what follows the word for (gar) is an explanation to what was just previously stated.
Matt 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
So to be called least in the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN means you shall in NO case ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.
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