If Perchance Catholicism Is Mistaken

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Jackson123

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Something about Martin Luther that I did not know

"Despite his unremitting criticism of the traditional doctrines of Marian mediation and intercession, to the end Luther continued to proclaim that Mary should be honored. He made it a point to preach on her feast days.

"The veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very depths of the human heart."5

"Is Christ only to be adored? Or is the holy Mother of God rather not to be honoured? This is the woman who crushed the Serpent's head. Hear us. For your Son denies you nothing."6 Luther made this statement in his last sermon at Wittenberg in January 1546.

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/general/mary.htm
As for me, my standard is the Bible.

I do not believe Mary able to see if catholic bowing unto her statue, or respect her.

What they do is against the word of God and pagan traditions

Martin was ex catholic, so he may still have little catholic teaching left over.
 

Webers.Home

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Though there are numerous passages in the Bible that suggest the
possibility of a purgatory; all such passages are indirect references rather
than obvious, clear-cut, black and white teachings; ergo: there's a very good
chance that purgatory is the product of human reasoning, faulty
interpretation, and a fertile imagination

FAQ: Okay so there may be, and then again there may not be, a purgatory.
What do you propose I do about it?

A: According to 1Tim 2:5 and Heb 12:22-24, Jesus Christ has been
designated a mediator between God and Man. So I suggest initiating a
rapport with heaven. According to Heb 1:3 and Heb 10:12, Jesus is in the
very presence of God so your connection will be much better than routing
your concerns thru underlings down here on the ground.

Simply find a private moment to speak up and tell Jesus that you're aware
there's an afterlife and that that you're concerned about coming out on the
wrong side of it. That'll get the ball rolling.

Your concern, if honest, won't end up in the round file.

John 6:37 . . All that the Father gives me shall come to me, and the one
who comes to me I certainly will not cast out.

FAQ: Jesus is way out there in heaven somewhere. How's he supposed to
hear me?

A: According to John 1:1-14, Jesus Christ is not only a human being, but
also a divine being. Don't worry, he'll hear you alright; nothing escapes his
notice.
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Dan_473

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Holy Spirit tell to sme people than they put it in a book and other people like me believe it.
Which people did the holy Spirit tell? Were they part of a group?

When did the spirit tell them?
 

Dan_473

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I never heard protestant pray to the dead.

We may ask our brother that still physically alive to pray for us but not the dead, make a statue and bow unto their statue. This is pagan tradition.
It does sound like a pagan tradition. But I think it's also very old, about as old as the Canon of the New testament.
 

Dan_473

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As for me, my standard is the Bible.

I do not believe Mary able to see if catholic bowing unto her statue, or respect her.

What they do is against the word of God and pagan traditions

Martin was ex catholic, so he may still have little catholic teaching left over.
It's kind of a matter for historians I think, but I've heard that Martin Luther considered himself Catholic his whole life.