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Hi friend. Nice introduction. 
Not sure why the tone. But I didn't say anyone was.
Plus, only been here since yesterday!
Only joined to have some fellowship with the saints.
You don't have to agree with me. Most don't! But God does, and it's only Him I must please.
Not sure why the tone. But I didn't say anyone was.
Plus, only been here since yesterday!
Only joined to have some fellowship with the saints.
You don't have to agree with me. Most don't! But God does, and it's only Him I must please.
unequivocally state that God definitely does not agree with you, so you are far more alone than you realize.
Romans 4:5
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Hi friend. Nice introduction.
Not sure why the tone. But I didn't say anyone was.
Plus, only been here since yesterday!
Only joined to have some fellowship with the saints.
You don't have to agree with me. Most don't! But God does, and it's only Him I must please.
Not sure why the tone. But I didn't say anyone was.
Plus, only been here since yesterday!
Only joined to have some fellowship with the saints.
You don't have to agree with me. Most don't! But God does, and it's only Him I must please.
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Hey brother. Just joined this site yesterday! And yes, I jumped right into the thick of it!
I'm hoping to find some True fellowship here. Look forward to interacting with you, discussing the meat of the Word.
Briefly concerning "pisteou", which I'm sure you know, but is hard for so many to grasp, is that the opposite of "pisteou" is not "unbelief" but "disobedience." Which tells us that an abstract faith is not faith at all. Truly, our faith is only evident to man, and to God, by our behavior, our conduct, by our works!
Blessings to you, friend, as you Journey on the Way.
I'm hoping to find some True fellowship here. Look forward to interacting with you, discussing the meat of the Word.
Briefly concerning "pisteou", which I'm sure you know, but is hard for so many to grasp, is that the opposite of "pisteou" is not "unbelief" but "disobedience." Which tells us that an abstract faith is not faith at all. Truly, our faith is only evident to man, and to God, by our behavior, our conduct, by our works!
Blessings to you, friend, as you Journey on the Way.
Mark 9:23-24
23 Jesus said to him, “If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.”
24 Immediately the father of the child cried out and said with tears, “Lord, I believe; help my unbelief!”
Whilst you are at it can you define disobedience is as well please.
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Believing in Jesus is what saves a person. That, faith, and His grace.
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In one sense, mankind was "saved" by the obedience and sacrifice of the Man Jesus.
To begin the Journey our first step is to "believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." - Heb 11:6
We must be careful that our "faith" in not in "faith" itself, but in the Father, and in the Son.
And properly translated, Hab 2:4 reads "the righteous shall live by his faithfulness." This "faithfulness" being a complete surrender to God. The opposite being one who is "proud." (I've spent much time teaching on this single verse alone!)
As Jesus said, of those who will "come after" Him (meaning being conformed into His image, becoming One with Him), there must be a denial of self, a picking up of our own cross daily and following Him the Way of the Cross, which signifies death and rebirth.
To obtain "Eternal Salvation", and indeed become "salvation" for the nations in Eternity, we must be "refined in the fire" and proven "worthy", just as the Man Jesus had to be proven and "perfected" to be "made Lord and Christ" and "become the author of Eternal salvation to those who obey Him."
When I preach this in the churches I'm involved with, I often get blank stares, and I know this Truth is far beyond what many have known. But it IS Bible. And honestly, if God has desired, once one sees, by the Spirit, the Truth of God's Word, you begin to see it all throughout the Scripture, and it becomes impossible to unsee.
The understanding of "salvation" is greatly off today. Unless one can cast aside the traditions of man and the Religious filters that have been erected that we often view the Scripture through, we will remain blind and deaf, which is the purpose of the spiritual enemies of God. And God allows even the delusion, as He is testing those who will sit with the Lamb on His Throne to judge and rule over the saved of the nations. Amen.
Do we have "ears to hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches" today?
May we be among that remnant who have fellowship with the Father.
"who has stood in the council of Yahweh
to see and hear His word?
Who has paid attention to His word and obeyed? "
- Jer 23:18
Peace.
To begin the Journey our first step is to "believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." - Heb 11:6
We must be careful that our "faith" in not in "faith" itself, but in the Father, and in the Son.
And properly translated, Hab 2:4 reads "the righteous shall live by his faithfulness." This "faithfulness" being a complete surrender to God. The opposite being one who is "proud." (I've spent much time teaching on this single verse alone!)
As Jesus said, of those who will "come after" Him (meaning being conformed into His image, becoming One with Him), there must be a denial of self, a picking up of our own cross daily and following Him the Way of the Cross, which signifies death and rebirth.
To obtain "Eternal Salvation", and indeed become "salvation" for the nations in Eternity, we must be "refined in the fire" and proven "worthy", just as the Man Jesus had to be proven and "perfected" to be "made Lord and Christ" and "become the author of Eternal salvation to those who obey Him."
When I preach this in the churches I'm involved with, I often get blank stares, and I know this Truth is far beyond what many have known. But it IS Bible. And honestly, if God has desired, once one sees, by the Spirit, the Truth of God's Word, you begin to see it all throughout the Scripture, and it becomes impossible to unsee.
The understanding of "salvation" is greatly off today. Unless one can cast aside the traditions of man and the Religious filters that have been erected that we often view the Scripture through, we will remain blind and deaf, which is the purpose of the spiritual enemies of God. And God allows even the delusion, as He is testing those who will sit with the Lamb on His Throne to judge and rule over the saved of the nations. Amen.
Do we have "ears to hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches" today?
May we be among that remnant who have fellowship with the Father.
"who has stood in the council of Yahweh
to see and hear His word?
Who has paid attention to His word and obeyed? "
- Jer 23:18
Peace.
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