Galatian Conundrums
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Acts 1:6-7 -
"6 So indeed those having come together were asking Him, saying, “Lord, at this time are you restoring the kingdom to Israel?” 7 And He said to them, “It is not yours to know times or seasons that the Father put in place by His own authority."
Acts 3:21 -
"21 whom indeed it behooves heaven to receive until the times of restoration of all things of which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from the age."
[i.e. the OT prophecies concerning the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom, aka "the kingdom OF THE heavenS," aka "the age [singular] to come," aka etc...]
Daniel 9:26a -
"26 Then after the sixty-two weeks [completed on Palm Sunday, when Jesus SAID the Lk19:41-44 thing (re: the city) and DID the Zech9:9 thing (re: the city)], the Messiah will be cut off and will have nothing [some versions say, 'but not for himself']. […]"
[I tend to believe that the "cut off" (happening that very week following Palm Sunday) had more to do with His arrest and trials, than His actual death on the Cross (also occurring that same week)... I made a post about that, recently...]
"6 So indeed those having come together were asking Him, saying, “Lord, at this time are you restoring the kingdom to Israel?” 7 And He said to them, “It is not yours to know times or seasons that the Father put in place by His own authority."
Acts 3:21 -
"21 whom indeed it behooves heaven to receive until the times of restoration of all things of which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from the age."
[i.e. the OT prophecies concerning the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom, aka "the kingdom OF THE heavenS," aka "the age [singular] to come," aka etc...]
Daniel 9:26a -
"26 Then after the sixty-two weeks [completed on Palm Sunday, when Jesus SAID the Lk19:41-44 thing (re: the city) and DID the Zech9:9 thing (re: the city)], the Messiah will be cut off and will have nothing [some versions say, 'but not for himself']. […]"
[I tend to believe that the "cut off" (happening that very week following Palm Sunday) had more to do with His arrest and trials, than His actual death on the Cross (also occurring that same week)... I made a post about that, recently...]
^ found it [EDIT TO ADD...]
[quoting that post I'd referred to]
"For I was like a gentle lamb led to slaughter; I did not know that they had plotted against me: “Let us destroy the tree with its fruit; let us cut him off [H3772] from the land of the living, that his name will be remembered no more.” " -- Jeremiah 11:19
https://biblehub.com/text/jeremiah/11-19.htm
[similar to the wording in Isaiah 53:7 which most see as corresponding with Matthew 26:61-63, 27:12-16; Mark 14:57-61, 15:3-4; Luke 23:8-11; John 19:9-10, Jesus' arrest / @ His trials that very week following the conclusion of the 69 Weeks total (Palm Sunday)... See also Zech14:2 there used with a negative, "not be cut off [from the city]"]
[notes: I know that Jer11:19 likely refers to Jeremiah the prophet, but I think is also a prophecy concerning Jesus; just like Psalm 72 ("the king chapter") pertains to both Solomon and Jesus; and it's commonly believed that in such contexts ^ , the phrase "the city" pertains to "Jerusalem" and the phrase "the land" (like in Jer11:19 above) pertains specifically to "Israel"; and this would correspond to the phrase in Dan9:26a "shall be cut off [/'but not for himself'; or, 'and have nothing' as some translations have it]"... this makes sense in view of both the prophecy of Dan9:24 which is concerning "DETERMINED UPON thy [Daniel's] people, AND UPON thy [Daniel's] HOLY CITY" and of His "be cut off," in view of these other passages (relating, as I see it)]
Acts 8:31-35 -
31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. [<--perhaps TWO parts here in this verse; Part A and Part B, if you will]
34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
[again, see also Matthew 26:61-63, 27:12-16; Mark 14:57-61, 15:3-4; Luke 23:8-11; John 19:9-10 (re: Jesus' arrest / @ His trials)]
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John 11:45-55 -
The Plot to Kill Jesus
(Matthew 26:1-5; Mark 14:1-2; Luke 22:1-6)
45 Therefore [re: Lazarus having been raised from the dead] many of the Jews having come to Mary, and having seen what He did, believed in Him. 46 But some of them went to the Pharisees and told them what Jesus had done.
47 Therefore the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered a council and were saying, “What are we to do? For this man does many signs. 48 If we shall let Him alone like this, all will believe in Him, and the Romans will come and will take away both our place and nation.” https://biblehub.com/text/john/11-48.htm
49 But a certain one of them, Caiaphas, being high priest the same year, said to them, “You know nothing at all, 50 nor do you consider that it is profitable for you that one man should die for the people, and the whole nation should not perish.”
51 Now he did not say this from himself, but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus was about to die for the nation, 52 and not for the nation only, but also that children of God, those having been scattered, He might gather together into one.
[note: Eph1:10 does not refer to "in this present age [singular]" like the rest of the epistle does]
53 So from that day, they took counsel together that they might kill Him. 54 Therefore Jesus no longer walked publicly among the Jews, but went away from there into the region near the wilderness, to a city called Ephraim. And there He stayed with the disciples.
55 Now the Passover of the Jews was near, and many went up to Jerusalem out of the region before the Passover, so that they might purify themselves.
[quoting Wm Kelly]
"The chief priests and the Pharisees are immediately on the alert. They assemble a council; they wonder at their own inactivity in presence of the many signs done by Jesus; they fear that, if left alone, He may become universally acceptable, and that they may provoke the Romans to destroy them, Church and State, as men now say. How affecting to see the power of Satan blinding those most who take the highest place in zeal for God after the flesh! It was their desperately wicked purpose to put Him to death-a purpose as desperately effected, which led to the cross, in which He did become the attractive centre to men of every class and nation and moral condition; and it was their guilt in this especially, though not this alone, which drew on them the wrath of "the king," who sent his forces, destroyed those murderers, and burnt their city [Matt22:7 (Lk19:41-44 said on Palm Sunday), and Lk21:23,20]. All righteous blood came upon them, and their house is left desolate unto this day, and this, too, by the dreaded hand of the Romans, whom they professed to propitiate by the death of Jesus. Such is the way and end of unbelief."
--William Kelly, Commentary on John 11 [source: Bible Hub; bracket mine]
[end quoting]
[end quoting that post]
[quoting that post I'd referred to]
"For I was like a gentle lamb led to slaughter; I did not know that they had plotted against me: “Let us destroy the tree with its fruit; let us cut him off [H3772] from the land of the living, that his name will be remembered no more.” " -- Jeremiah 11:19
https://biblehub.com/text/jeremiah/11-19.htm
[similar to the wording in Isaiah 53:7 which most see as corresponding with Matthew 26:61-63, 27:12-16; Mark 14:57-61, 15:3-4; Luke 23:8-11; John 19:9-10, Jesus' arrest / @ His trials that very week following the conclusion of the 69 Weeks total (Palm Sunday)... See also Zech14:2 there used with a negative, "not be cut off [from the city]"]
[notes: I know that Jer11:19 likely refers to Jeremiah the prophet, but I think is also a prophecy concerning Jesus; just like Psalm 72 ("the king chapter") pertains to both Solomon and Jesus; and it's commonly believed that in such contexts ^ , the phrase "the city" pertains to "Jerusalem" and the phrase "the land" (like in Jer11:19 above) pertains specifically to "Israel"; and this would correspond to the phrase in Dan9:26a "shall be cut off [/'but not for himself'; or, 'and have nothing' as some translations have it]"... this makes sense in view of both the prophecy of Dan9:24 which is concerning "DETERMINED UPON thy [Daniel's] people, AND UPON thy [Daniel's] HOLY CITY" and of His "be cut off," in view of these other passages (relating, as I see it)]
Acts 8:31-35 -
31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. [<--perhaps TWO parts here in this verse; Part A and Part B, if you will]
34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
[again, see also Matthew 26:61-63, 27:12-16; Mark 14:57-61, 15:3-4; Luke 23:8-11; John 19:9-10 (re: Jesus' arrest / @ His trials)]
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John 11:45-55 -
The Plot to Kill Jesus
(Matthew 26:1-5; Mark 14:1-2; Luke 22:1-6)
45 Therefore [re: Lazarus having been raised from the dead] many of the Jews having come to Mary, and having seen what He did, believed in Him. 46 But some of them went to the Pharisees and told them what Jesus had done.
47 Therefore the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered a council and were saying, “What are we to do? For this man does many signs. 48 If we shall let Him alone like this, all will believe in Him, and the Romans will come and will take away both our place and nation.” https://biblehub.com/text/john/11-48.htm
49 But a certain one of them, Caiaphas, being high priest the same year, said to them, “You know nothing at all, 50 nor do you consider that it is profitable for you that one man should die for the people, and the whole nation should not perish.”
51 Now he did not say this from himself, but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus was about to die for the nation, 52 and not for the nation only, but also that children of God, those having been scattered, He might gather together into one.
[note: Eph1:10 does not refer to "in this present age [singular]" like the rest of the epistle does]
53 So from that day, they took counsel together that they might kill Him. 54 Therefore Jesus no longer walked publicly among the Jews, but went away from there into the region near the wilderness, to a city called Ephraim. And there He stayed with the disciples.
55 Now the Passover of the Jews was near, and many went up to Jerusalem out of the region before the Passover, so that they might purify themselves.
[quoting Wm Kelly]
"The chief priests and the Pharisees are immediately on the alert. They assemble a council; they wonder at their own inactivity in presence of the many signs done by Jesus; they fear that, if left alone, He may become universally acceptable, and that they may provoke the Romans to destroy them, Church and State, as men now say. How affecting to see the power of Satan blinding those most who take the highest place in zeal for God after the flesh! It was their desperately wicked purpose to put Him to death-a purpose as desperately effected, which led to the cross, in which He did become the attractive centre to men of every class and nation and moral condition; and it was their guilt in this especially, though not this alone, which drew on them the wrath of "the king," who sent his forces, destroyed those murderers, and burnt their city [Matt22:7 (Lk19:41-44 said on Palm Sunday), and Lk21:23,20]. All righteous blood came upon them, and their house is left desolate unto this day, and this, too, by the dreaded hand of the Romans, whom they professed to propitiate by the death of Jesus. Such is the way and end of unbelief."
--William Kelly, Commentary on John 11 [source: Bible Hub; bracket mine]
[end quoting]
[end quoting that post]
It seems lots of people are still confused over this.
Galatians 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Ephesians 3:5-6
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Since this is revealed by the Spirit and the Lords Kingdom is not of this world I suppose the only way to understand this is by the Spirit. Or to spiritualize it, as you say, although I don't think you really understand your term.
Galatians 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Ephesians 3:5-6
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Since this is revealed by the Spirit and the Lords Kingdom is not of this world I suppose the only way to understand this is by the Spirit. Or to spiritualize it, as you say, although I don't think you really understand your term.
That's two gospel non-sense. The Lord has said that His Words are Spirit and Life.
Romans 9:6-8
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Galatians 4:26-31
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Romans 9:6-8
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Galatians 4:26-31
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
I think 2 gospel non-sense fits what you are saying pretty well.
You have separated the Promises of God through Abraham to be Just for Jews.
Then you have stated that Spiritual Blessings are for the Church through Christ.
But the Bible states that WE are Abrahams seed and heirs according to the promise. So one Gospel for all, not two for two people groups.
You have separated the Promises of God through Abraham to be Just for Jews.
Then you have stated that Spiritual Blessings are for the Church through Christ.
But the Bible states that WE are Abrahams seed and heirs according to the promise. So one Gospel for all, not two for two people groups.
Amazingly my morning reading was mark 1
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
So according to hyper paulines Jesus was delusional,thinking the gospel of the kingdom was the messiah ruling in power and expelling the romans.
So even Jesus had it mixed up
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
So according to hyper paulines Jesus was delusional,thinking the gospel of the kingdom was the messiah ruling in power and expelling the romans.
So even Jesus had it mixed up
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i have realised here that some people, in order to disagree with this, can even conclude that Peter can preach something he neither understood Nor accept.
I mean come on, He even rebuked Jesus for saying that, and yet they convinced themselves that Peter have been preaching the dbr with conviction, when it has not even happened yet. 🤗
I mean come on, He even rebuked Jesus for saying that, and yet they convinced themselves that Peter have been preaching the dbr with conviction, when it has not even happened yet. 🤗
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Mark 1:14-15
Jesus came to Galilee, preaching the good news of the kingdom of God. His specific message was that:
1. The time was fulfilled. According to the prophetic time-table, a date had been fixed for the public appearing of the King. It had now arrived.
2. The kingdom of God was at hand; the King was present and was making a bona fide offer of the kingdom to the nation of Israel. The kingdom was at hand in the sense that the King had appeared on the scene.
3. Men were called on to repent and believe in the gospel. In order to be eligible to enter the kingdom, they had to do an about-face regarding sin, and believe the good news concerning the Lord Jesus.
Jesus came to Galilee, preaching the good news of the kingdom of God. His specific message was that:
1. The time was fulfilled. According to the prophetic time-table, a date had been fixed for the public appearing of the King. It had now arrived.
2. The kingdom of God was at hand; the King was present and was making a bona fide offer of the kingdom to the nation of Israel. The kingdom was at hand in the sense that the King had appeared on the scene.
3. Men were called on to repent and believe in the gospel. In order to be eligible to enter the kingdom, they had to do an about-face regarding sin, and believe the good news concerning the Lord Jesus.
Mar 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
The birth of Jesus can be taken as read. People were looking at him, and indeed it was prophesied. Also from ancient times people needed to repent, so nothing new there, and indeed the Old Testament tells of Christ's death.
One of the best-known prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures concerning the death of Messiah, Psalm 22 and Isaiah 53 certainly stand out. Psalm 22 is especially amazing since it predicted numerous separate elements about Jesus’ crucifixion a thousand years before Jesus was crucified. Here are some examples. Messiah will have His hands and His feet “pierced” through (Psalm 22:16; John 20:25). The Messiah’s bones will not be broken (a person’s legs were usually broken after being crucified to speed up their death) (Psalm 22:17; John 19:33). Men will cast lots for Messiah’s clothing (Psalm 22:18; Matthew 27:35).
https://www.gotquestions.org/death-resurrection-Messiah.html
So yes, anyone familiar with the Old Testament will have known of Christs birth, death, and resurrection.
The birth of Jesus can be taken as read. People were looking at him, and indeed it was prophesied. Also from ancient times people needed to repent, so nothing new there, and indeed the Old Testament tells of Christ's death.
One of the best-known prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures concerning the death of Messiah, Psalm 22 and Isaiah 53 certainly stand out. Psalm 22 is especially amazing since it predicted numerous separate elements about Jesus’ crucifixion a thousand years before Jesus was crucified. Here are some examples. Messiah will have His hands and His feet “pierced” through (Psalm 22:16; John 20:25). The Messiah’s bones will not be broken (a person’s legs were usually broken after being crucified to speed up their death) (Psalm 22:17; John 19:33). Men will cast lots for Messiah’s clothing (Psalm 22:18; Matthew 27:35).
https://www.gotquestions.org/death-resurrection-Messiah.html
So yes, anyone familiar with the Old Testament will have known of Christs birth, death, and resurrection.
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