Creation and the Gap theory (pre adamic race)

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watcher2013

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First off the Jewish day ran from sun down to sun up. Not midnight to midnight.

Secondly, any part of a day is still considered a day..

Some scholars believe Jesus was crucified on Thursday not Friday.
From creation:
Evening and morning = first day say friday afternoon(part of 1st day...proof they hurried to break the bones bac. Of sabbath)
Evening morning = second day (sabbath..whole day)
Evening and morning = 3rd day (dawn..still part of day 3)
 

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From creation:
Evening and morning = first day say friday afternoon(part of 1st day...proof they hurried to break the bones bac. Of sabbath)
Evening morning = second day (sabbath..whole day)
Evening and morning = 3rd day (dawn..still part of day 3)
If u add 1 more evening it will be the fourth day...
 
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Then your beginning is not part of the first day when God created time but when there was no time on God realm of eternity...in which case its an indefinite period of time could be gazillion of years prior to first day...
However there is no beginning and no end at God realm.
Yes God who is Light has no beginning. Setting the scene likened to " Lights camera action" to display his work.

Time under the Sun and Moon began on day four. The day he created time to represent his glory . Prior to that the glory of God's presence was the light .

When God said let there be light he appeared on the scene. He was the light the first three day. It would appear he hid and darkness to represent evil .Calling light good. God alone is good. Darkness is never called good.

When the present heaven and earth disappear. In the new heavens and earth it will return again that God is the light like the first three days before he found sin in the heart of Satan.

The Sun represented the presence of God and the Moon the reflective glory of the Son. The two witnesses of God.

The two temporal time keepers that did show a corrupted creation will never be needed .Its the end of time forever more.

And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honor into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. Revelation 21
 

NayborBear

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So when is the eighth day? The eighth day is when all things are created new.
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Ephesians 1:11-14
In him, according to the purpose of him who accomplishes all things according to the counsel of his will, we who first hoped in Christ have been destined and appointed to live for the praise of his glory. In him you also, who have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and have believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, which is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

2 Corinthians 5:16-17
From now on, therefore, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him thus no longer. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

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The 2 Corinthians verses might sound like it is saying that today we are new creations. But it means that we should regard ourselves as new creations. We regard ourselves no longer slaves to the flesh even though we are still in the flesh.

Ephesians 1:11-14 sheds more light on this. That we have been marked for salvation and have received the guarantee of our inheritance, but we have not yet received our inheritance. We receive our inheritance on the 8th day, when all things are created new.

This is how I see it currently.
God created on the first six days, rested or ceased from creating on the seventh day, and will begin creating again on the eighth day. How long are any of these days? We do not know from scripture.

Revelation 21:1-5
21 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, [a]John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.”

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We are created new on the eighth day, when God makes all things new.

Jews were circumcised on the 8th day as a symbol of what was to come on the eighth day. They were not created new on the eighth 24h day of their lives. The circumcision was merely a symbol pointing to the future eighth day when they will be created new.
A very interesting "observation/interpretation."
A "mite" short-sided, however, IMHO.
Ephesians 2
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
7 That in the ages to come
(yea, even ages "before") he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

(please forgive my ineptness in interpreting a complex "plan of salvation" "spiritual process", which is quite difficult in explaining, without "crossing over" the "boundaries of vanity", where spiritual wickedness in high places dwells).

Picture, if you will: as Paul states in,
Ephesians 3
21 Unto him be glory in the church(called out FROM "the world") by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

("though heaven and earth {ages} [both prior to and, after this one] My WORDS shall NEVER pass away!")


An "ever repeating cycle of planting, watering, growing, maturing, and (then) harvesting of "Spiritually matured souls" which has matured."
Throwing those parts of one's spirit which has not? (including mine own) Into God's "spiritual pot", who, at various and sundry times)", if you will, and the soul, which is "saved eternally", (in those who believe in Christ Jesus, whom He sent), "selected" (call it predestining) into "repeating the cycle."
In today's "world", this sounds pretty "Calvinistic", does it not?
Although, I am "just a pilgrim" like everyone else "born of water".
And, although, I do not "consider" myself a "faithful calvinist." Faithful, or otherwise.
The "concept" of a small tiny "feeling of remembrance" of having been this way before. Of having fought on the side of "He who lives forever and ever" against "the adversary."
I have to give Calvin credit, where credit is due him, concerning "predestination."
I could go on, concerning the "warring" we all do in performong "spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God, by Jesus Christ", in the rendering our spiritual bodies (inner man, if you will. heart of hearts, or whatever the "trending term/s "used these days), as "uncarnal" as "rites of passage" into "the Holy Priesthood", as we strive in the "overcoming/making UNcarnal" or "defeating" the "flesh nature", that is present within us all.
The "defeating", rather then ignoring the "carnal" nature is a MUST!
Because, if not defeated? It "seeps into the "spiritual cracks", and "flesh cracks" of "behavioral sin" (inner and outer body) that "love doesn't cover!"
Which "can be seen", and is described here:
Isaiah 28
15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
In "some" believers, it gushes through these cracks, more then others.
Then? THIS happens:
Isaiah 28
18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.
And?, They get "recycled", if you will, with little, if any "memory" of having done this "life" before!




















 

watcher2013

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Yes God who is Light has no beginning. Setting the scene likened to " Lights camera action" to display his work.

Time under the Sun and Moon began on day four. The day he created time to represent his glory . Prior to that the glory of God's presence was the light .

When God said let there be light he appeared on the scene. He was the light the first three day. It would appear he hid and darkness to represent evil .Calling light good. God alone is good. Darkness is never called good.

When the present heaven and earth disappear. In the new heavens and earth it will return again that God is the light like the first three days before he found sin in the heart of Satan.

The Sun represented the presence of God and the Moon the reflective glory of the Son. The two witnesses of God.

The two temporal time keepers that did show a corrupted creation will never be needed .Its the end of time forever more.

And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honor into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. Revelation 21
Time began at the first day...and they all the same duration.from day1 to day 7. Exo 20:11 in six days God created the heaven and the earth and in 7th he rested.
The spirit of God moved upon the waters....even before he said let there be light.
 

DeighAnn

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A very interesting "observation/interpretation."
A "mite" short-sided, however, IMHO.
Ephesians 2
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
7 That in the ages to come
(yea, even ages "before") he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

(please forgive my ineptness in interpreting a complex "plan of salvation" "spiritual process", which is quite difficult in explaining, without "crossing over" the "boundaries of vanity", where spiritual wickedness in high places dwells).

Picture, if you will: as Paul states in,
Ephesians 3
21 Unto him be glory in the church(called out FROM "the world") by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

("though heaven and earth {ages} [both prior to and, after this one] My WORDS shall NEVER pass away!")


An "ever repeating cycle of planting, watering, growing, maturing, and (then) harvesting of "Spiritually matured souls" which has matured."
Throwing those parts of one's spirit which has not? (including mine own) Into God's "spiritual pot", who, at various and sundry times)", if you will, and the soul, which is "saved eternally", (in those who believe in Christ Jesus, whom He sent), "selected" (call it predestining) into "repeating the cycle."
In today's "world", this sounds pretty "Calvinistic", does it not?
Although, I am "just a pilgrim" like everyone else "born of water".
And, although, I do not "consider" myself a "faithful calvinist." Faithful, or otherwise.
The "concept" of a small tiny "feeling of remembrance" of having been this way before. Of having fought on the side of "He who lives forever and ever" against "the adversary."
I have to give Calvin credit, where credit is due him, concerning "predestination."
I could go on, concerning the "warring" we all do in performong "spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God, by Jesus Christ", in the rendering our spiritual bodies (inner man, if you will. heart of hearts, or whatever the "trending term/s "used these days), as "uncarnal" as "rites of passage" into "the Holy Priesthood", as we strive in the "overcoming/making UNcarnal" or "defeating" the "flesh nature", that is present within us all.
The "defeating", rather then ignoring the "carnal" nature is a MUST!
Because, if not defeated? It "seeps into the "spiritual cracks", and "flesh cracks" of "behavioral sin" (inner and outer body) that "love doesn't cover!"
Which "can be seen", and is described here:
Isaiah 28
15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
In "some" believers, it gushes through these cracks, more then others.
Then? THIS happens:
Isaiah 28
18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.
And?, They get "recycled", if you will, with little, if any "memory" of having done this "life" before!
Not sure I follow you. Are you saying "to do it again and again till getting it right for some? Same realm? Is this a finite #? Ever more than once in flesh? I see three, am I missing something?

Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
 

NayborBear

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Not sure I follow you. Are you saying "to do it again and again till getting it right for some? Same realm? Is this a finite #? Ever more than once in flesh? I see three, am I missing something?

Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
I know! Sounds "wacky!" Right?

Also sounds like Paul certainly knew "something" concerning "Spiritual meat", that he couldn't impart upon us "gentiles." Don't it?

I believe it has something to do with the "putting away of childish things." And going onto "Spitirual Perfection/maturity."
Hebrews 6
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Which is pretty much what we do when we pick up our own cross. Daily.

Which is pretty hard, if not impossible to do, when you're stuck in the "faith, repentance, baptism, walk in love....NEXT!" Because that's ALL you know! Cuz, that's ALL you've been taught that one NEEDS to know!
Sounds rather "pharasetic", don't it? Like "the law" boiled down to "just do these things?" You'll be fine!

So, when one looks at God, and His "loving kindness" which endures forever?
In "that" light? It really doesn't sound all that wacky.

 

UnoiAmarah

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Then your beginning is not part of the first day when God created time but when there was no time on God realm of eternity...in which case its an indefinite period of time could be gazillion of years prior to first day...
However there is no beginning and no end at God realm.
The evening and the morning is the first day.

By the simplest of terms, the evening is the beginning of darkness and the morning is the beginning of visible light.

Understanding that the Eternal One is Light*, being invisible in which there is no darkness. The body of light ** which formed the expanse of space called heaven in which we abode has the same image as the light from which it was begotten. It is invisible.
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* This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5
** Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Col 1:15
You are right regarding the eternal has no beginning of existence, nor does it change in nature or form, if that is in fact what you are saying. But one can perceive it this way also, the Eternal One is invisible light which no man can see, nor has seen in whom there is no darkness, thus there is neither evening or morning therefore the eternal nature there no beginning or ending of days.

So do you think darkness existed within the Eternal One?

Then darkness began with the expanse of space seeing that is written that darkness was upon the face of the deep?

But I digress, the first day was the evening that began when the body of light emerged into existence outside of the eternal seeing that darkness did not exist until that point. And the continued until the point when the morning appeared and the LORD saw the light he had formed. Thus the evening and morning are the first day.

So yes, it could have been a gazillion hours but then again a day is not measure by hours.
 

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into "repeating the cycle."
You also said QUOTE The "concept" of a small tiny "feeling of remembrance" of having been this way before. Of having fought on the side of "He who lives forever and ever" against "the adversary.
END of YOUR QUOTE
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What do you mean by repeating the cycle?
 

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The evening and the morning is the first day.

By the simplest of terms, the evening is the beginning of darkness and the morning is the beginning of visible light.

Understanding that the Eternal One is Light*, being invisible in which there is no darkness. The body of light ** which formed the expanse of space called heaven in which we abode has the same image as the light from which it was begotten. It is invisible.
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* This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5
** Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Col 1:15
You are right regarding the eternal has no beginning of existence, nor does it change in nature or form, if that is in fact what you are saying. But one can perceive it this way also, the Eternal One is invisible light which no man can see, nor has seen in whom there is no darkness, thus there is neither evening or morning therefore the eternal nature there no beginning or ending of days.

So do you think darkness existed within the Eternal One?

Then darkness began with the expanse of space seeing that is written that darkness was upon the face of the deep?

But I digress, the first day was the evening that began when the body of light emerged into existence outside of the eternal seeing that darkness did not exist until that point. And the continued until the point when the morning appeared and the LORD saw the light he had formed. Thus the evening and morning are the first day.

So yes, it could have been a gazillion hours but then again a day is not measure by hours.
All throughout creation God was present...and still he said the evening and the morning...
Darkness is just the absence of light....and it is what it is....go dive into the deepest ocean and all you see is darkness....there is no need to spiritualisr the creation...
And if u agree ots gazillion hours. Then it took you a long long time to inhabit the earth.Isa 45:18 KJV For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
 

Dino246

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When God said let there be light he appeared on the scene. He was the light the first three day. It would appear he hid and darkness to represent evil .Calling light good. God alone is good. Darkness is never called good.
Did you miss Genesis 1:31, where God called ALL that He had made "very good"? Your statement in bold is simply incorrect. As for "he hid and darkness to represent evil" (and noting the nonsensical structure), there is nothing at all in the text to indicate that God "hid".

You should really base your assertions on what is actually in the text, instead of making things up as you go along.
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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First off the Jewish day ran from sun down to sun up. Not midnight to midnight.

Secondly, any part of a day is still considered a day..

Some scholars believe Jesus was crucified on Thursday not Friday.
From creation:
Evening and morning = first day say friday afternoon(part of 1st day...proof they hurried to break the bones bac. Of sabbath)
Evening morning = second day (sabbath..whole day)
Evening and morning = 3rd day (dawn..still part of day 3)
"Any part of a day is still considered a day." So here you make my point.

Jesus was dead at the beginning of the 3rd day; and then he rose to life on the 3rd day.
So what prevents us from applying this same logic to the seventh day?

God rested at the beginning of the seventh day, and then he went to work later on the seventh day.
 

watcher2013

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"Any part of a day is still considered a day." So here you make my point.

Jesus was dead at the beginning of the 3rd day; and then he rose to life on the 3rd day.
So what prevents us from applying this same logic to the seventh day?

God rested at the beginning of the seventh day, and then he went to work later on the seventh day.
Show me scriptures that he was dead at the beginning of 3rd day?at dawn he was already gone when mary went.
3rd day covers when the evening to evening. You cannot apply the same logic. Sabbath is a whole day commemoration, rising up will only takea second or two.
Exo 20:10 KJV But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
 

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Modern science says the 8th day is when the smallest amount of blood a baby can shed when circumcised, but who really knows the reason. What we can do is believed and not add anything to it. It was commanded to them then they follow...in fact abraham was circumcise at 99 yrs old.
Gen 17:24 KJV And Abraham was ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.
So the important is they are circumcised.
Your answer is that the 8th day signifies nothing. I strongly disagree.

If God rested on the seventh day, and the seventh day was only 24hours, then God rested for only 24 hours and then stopped resting. If this is the case than why would God require his people to rest every seven days?

If a man lived 80 yrs and followed God's sabbath requirement to rest every seven days then that is 52 x 80 = 4160 days in which he rested. This far exceeds the 1 day of rest that God did.

If god rested just 24 hours, then this ought to have been the requirement of each man: to rest for 24 hours and be done with it.

In addition to having to rest every 7th day, the people also had to rest their land every seventh year (day). What is the meaning in all this? Is it also arbitrary as you suggest the 8th day to be in circumcision?

Not at all.

The Sabbath is a cycle. It is a cycle where man cannot get past the seventh day.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 repeat...

Man is stuck at the seventh day.
Man is stuck in the seventh day because of his sins against the Creator.

While man is stuck God has chosen not to move on without him. God has chosen too remain with man in the seventh day.

Therefore, since God is resting in the seventh day while he waits for man, then now it makes perfect sense that man should act to honor what God is doing. Therefore, as God rests, man is to honor the sabbath as a tribute to what God is doing.

So how does man break the cycle of the sabbath? How does man move past the seventh day? In Christ alone is man able to move past the seventh day and be part of the new creation that begins on the eighth day.

So this makes sense why observing the sabbath is no longer required for those who are in Christ. Christ enables us to move past the seventh day and now put our sights on the eighth day where we will be created anew.


So in this way we may consider ourselves new creations. But this is only because God's word never fails. His promises are true and are written in stone.

In actuality though we are still living in the current creation and are still in the seventh day waiting for Christ's return and for the judgment and for the defeat of evil and for all things to be made new (the eighth day).

Christ broke through the seven day cycle by rising from the dead on the eighth day, Sunday.

Christ is our ticket to the eighth day. Therefore, we no longer dwell on being stuck at the seventh day (honoring the sabbath), but we are now destined for the eighth day. Therefore, we now rejoice and worship on the eighth day, the Lord's Day.
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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Show me scriptures that he was dead at the beginning of 3rd day?at dawn he was already gone when mary went.
3rd day covers when the evening to evening. You cannot apply the same logic. Sabbath is a whole day commemoration, rising up will only takea second or two.
Exo 20:10 KJV But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Well he died on Friday (or thursday), but was not dead for the whole day, and yet it is counted as a whole day.
 

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Your answer is that the 8th day signifies nothing. I strongly disagree.

If God rested on the seventh day, and the seventh day was only 24hours, then God rested for only 24 hours and then stopped resting. If this is the case than why would God require his people to rest every seven days?

If a man lived 80 yrs and followed God's sabbath requirement to rest every seven days then that is 52 x 80 = 4160 days in which he rested. This far exceeds the 1 day of rest that God did.

If god rested just 24 hours, then this ought to have been the requirement of each man: to rest for 24 hours and be done with it.

In addition to having to rest every 7th day, the people also had to rest their land every seventh year (day). What is the meaning in all this? Is it also arbitrary as you suggest the 8th day to be in circumcision?

Not at all.

The Sabbath is a cycle. It is a cycle where man cannot get past the seventh day.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 repeat...

Man is stuck at the seventh day.
Man is stuck in the seventh day because of his sins against the Creator.

While man is stuck God has chosen not to move on without him. God has chosen too remain with man in the seventh day.

Therefore, since God is resting in the seventh day while he waits for man, then now it makes perfect sense that man should act to honor what God is doing. Therefore, as God rests, man is to honor the sabbath as a tribute to what God is doing.

So how does man break the cycle of the sabbath? How does man move past the seventh day? In Christ alone is man able to move past the seventh day and be part of the new creation that begins on the eighth day.

So this makes sense why observing the sabbath is no longer required for those who are in Christ. Christ enables us to move past the seventh day and now put our sights on the eighth day where we will be created anew.


So in this way we may consider ourselves new creations. But this is only because God's word never fails. His promises are true and are written in stone.

In actuality though we are still living in the current creation and are still in the seventh day waiting for Christ's return and for the judgment and for the defeat of evil and for all things to be made new (the eighth day).

Christ broke through the seven day cycle by rising from the dead on the eighth day, Sunday.

Christ is our ticket to the eighth day. Therefore, we no longer dwell on being stuck at the seventh day (honoring the sabbath), but we are now destined for the eighth day. Therefore, we now rejoice and worship on the eighth day, the Lord's Day.
Its a 7 days cycle in a week.
God rested on the 7th day... and such gave an example to his follow to have a rest on the 7 days cycle week.
Christ did rise on the 8th day...its the first day of the week.
Mat 28:1 KJV In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Man i do not know where u got your teaching...but its out of the biblical world...i encourage you to leave this 8th day thing...it is not plausible and biblical...
 

NayborBear

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You also said QUOTE The "concept" of a small tiny "feeling of remembrance" of having been this way before. Of having fought on the side of "He who lives forever and ever" against "the adversary.
END of YOUR QUOTE
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What do you mean by repeating the cycle?
Yep? Until the "Referee" calls" "TIME!" :cool:
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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Its a 7 days cycle in a week.
God rested on the 7th day... and such gave an example to his follow to have a rest on the 7 days cycle week.
Christ did rise on the 8th day...its the first day of the week.
Mat 28:1 KJV In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Man i do not know where u got your teaching...but its out of the biblical world...i encourage you to leave this 8th day thing...it is not plausible and biblical...
According to your rationale we would still be observing the sabbath, because nothing has changed in regard to the sabbath.

Also, 2 Peter 3 tells us that with the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like a day.

Peter writes this when referring to the creation all the way to when the Day of the Lord will come.

2 Peter 3:5 tells us, "They deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago".

Genesis 1:1 tells us, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

You yourself deliberately overlook these facts, that the heavens existed long ago, and that with the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like a day. Its clear they are not literal 24 hour days.

2 Peter 3:10 says, "But the day of the Lord will come".

This last "day" will also not be a 24 hour day. Or do you believe it will be a 24 hour day?
 
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Did you miss Genesis 1:31, where God called ALL that He had made "very good"? Your statement in bold is simply incorrect. As for "he hid and darkness to represent evil" (and noting the nonsensical structure), there is nothing at all in the text to indicate that God "hid".

You should really base your assertions on what is actually in the text, instead of making things up as you go along.
He did not call darkness good.

It is based on the text. He did not create an alternative light source until the fourth day. Some say he knew in advance the pagan kingdoms of the world as faithless would use the Sun as the source of life . Many Sun and Moon worshipers even today .

Yet there was light 12 hours and darkness . He is good at hiding His glory. . the light . let there be and there he was. He alone not seen is good. .the one master.

Where do you think darkness used to represent evil and not good came from the first three days?

No gap between day 3 and four .Just a flip of the switch, twinkling of the eye....and day 4 as below .

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the
light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.Geneisis 1:15-18

In the new heaven and earth the temporal use of the corruption time keeper will no longer be needs a as well as night to respect evil .It will be just as the first three days minus night.

And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. Revelation21:22-25
 
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Time began at the first day...and they all the same duration.from day1 to day 7. Exo 20:11 in six days God created the heaven and the earth and in 7th he rested.
The spirit of God moved upon the waters....even before he said let there be light.
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Hi thanks for the reply

It was not my idea that time began on day four. The corruption time keeps went into affect then . Time is winding down .

Three is used that way to represent the end of a matter throughout the bible. I think it applies there .There was 12 hours of light and 12 hours the first three days. No gap.

He rested form all his work to include the lamb of God slain .

Interesting the word sabbath as to its intended usage was destroyed by as it seems some who were zealous the keep a certain day. (6th) The word sabbath is not a time sensitive word in any way. . It simply means rest

Every time we hear his voice and are given His faith to put our trust in, as the unseen. . . called mixing faith he does the work of softening our born again hearts as the rest needed from our own works.

Hebrews 4:1_7 King James Version (KJV) Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear
his voice, harden not your hearts.

It would appear that the Youngs literal translates it properly in Mathew 28. Introducing the new era of the ceremonial rest as a shadow, a fast, to the first day of the week .The day God said let there be light to introduce the new born again beginning. .

Matthew 28 Young's Literal Translation (YLT) And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre,

In other place even the Youngs translates it in away that seems out of place . Like changing the word Sabbath again a non time sensitive word to "twice a week" and not twice on one day, the Sabbath.