When was Creation?

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When was Creation?

  • about 6,000 years ago

    Votes: 5 35.7%
  • millions of years ago

    Votes: 9 64.3%

  • Total voters
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JesusLives

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JesusLives

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Make it up why don't you.
Make it up why don't you?

There I fixed it for you to be a question.

First off I don't believe your assertion of people before as the Bible says the earth was without form and God created it. So how do you explain people living on a non formed earth with nothing?

Second, Bible states in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth... That was the beginning of mankind all of us not some of us.... That is how I read my Bible.... Do you read the Bible?
 

tourist

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"In the beginning" was the beginning of the Hebrew nation. The Bible is about the Hebrew nation, not the whole world.

There were other people already existing. The first humans were living about 2.8 million years ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31718336
This is pretty basic and cannot fathom how you get this wrong. There is no mention of the Hebrew nation in the very first 3 verses of the bible. Don't see how you believe that there were humans on earth previous to Adam and Eve when it clearly states that the earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. Kind of hard to survive on earth when it wasn't even shaped yet and there was no sun.

Genesis 1:1-2
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light
 

tourist

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The Bible is about the Hebrew nation, not the whole world.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31718336
OK, if the bible is about the Hebrew nation what exactly is the point of reading it if you are not part of the Hebrew nation? This point of view is totally ludicrous. What about the Gentiles as there was much mention of that group? I guess that maybe I shouldn't read the bible anymore because according to you it doesn't pertain to me. Total waste of time.
 

tourist

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#86
Make it up why don't you.
According to your signature on the bottom of your posts you thank Jesus for saving your soul. Are you part of the Hebrew nation? If not, according to your previous points made, salvation does not pertain to you or anyone else that is not part of the Hebrew nation.
 

PS

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Make it up why don't you?

There I fixed it for you to be a question.

First off I don't believe your assertion of people before as the Bible says the earth was without form and God created it. So how do you explain people living on a non formed earth with nothing?

Second, Bible states in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth... That was the beginning of mankind all of us not some of us.... That is how I read my Bible.... Do you read the Bible?
That is your first mistake. The earth was void long before mankind was ever around.
 
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I like the day 1,4,2,5,3,6 order. It reads well and is logical. Not saying that is the correct order but it works well.
 

PS

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This is pretty basic and cannot fathom how you get this wrong. There is no mention of the Hebrew nation in the very first 3 verses of the bible. Don't see how you believe that there were humans on earth previous to Adam and Eve when it clearly states that the earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. Kind of hard to survive on earth when it wasn't even shaped yet and there was no sun.

Genesis 1:1-2
In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light
The Hebrew people did not exist until relatively recent times compared to the age of the earth. They only became a nation officially sometime around 1948.
 

PS

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According to your signature on the bottom of your posts you thank Jesus for saving your soul. Are you part of the Hebrew nation? If not, according to your previous points made, salvation does not pertain to you or anyone else that is not part of the Hebrew nation.
Your ignorance is showing.
 

JesusLives

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That is your first mistake. The earth was void long before mankind was ever around.
That is one of many of your mistakes as I said the Bible said the earth was without form and void by reasoning no people were able to survive on the planet. It is clear that you believe in evolution from your previous statement. My belief Bible backed is that God created man in His image. You never answered my question - Do you read the Bible? If you did you would have your answers.
 

JesusLives

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Your ignorance is showing.
It is clear you like to argue so again I say I totally disagree with you and we will leave it at that. It is also clear you don't read your Bible enough.
 

PS

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It is clear you like to argue so again I say I totally disagree with you and we will leave it at that. It is also clear you don't read your Bible enough.
You are going on ignore young man.
 

JesusLives

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You are going on ignore young man.
Too bad you won't see that I am letting you know I am a Grandma not Grandpa.....but thanks for calling me a young man I don't get called young very often these days...
 

PS

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#95
Let it be known, the Jews are not the only race of people in the world, and they were late comers to boot.
 

JaumeJ

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The mother of the tribe of Judah is Leah. If we study what she said and why she named her son (Praiser of God" or Yahoodah, we learn all who love God are Jews by translation. Even Jesus was of the tribe of Judah. Jew is not a religion of old. It is domething made up since Jesus, Yeshua, came to givs the same Gospel He had given to Abraham to all nations. Praise God, amen...
 

Adstar

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What about the 2 Peter passage? Was God asking man to labor for 6,000 years then rest?

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is,and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Well the surface meaning was six 24 hour days.. But strangly enough some people theorise ( and i am not really one of them) that there is a 6000 year plan of God to do the Work and then their will be a 1000 year sabbath rest for the Saints of God..
 

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The mother of the tribe of Judah is Leah. If we study what she said and why she named her son (Praiser of God" or Yahoodah, we learn all who love God are Jews by translation. Even Jesus was of the tribe of Judah. Jew is not a religion of old. It is domething made up since Jesus, Yeshua, came to givs the same Gospel He had given to Abraham to all nations. Praise God, amen...
How should one refer to the people living in the land of Israel please Jaumel?

I suppose they are Israelites?
 

JaumeJ

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Israelíes. Many are non-believving, and those who claime to believe belong to various sects or denominatins under the man-given umbrella of Judaism......…...….
 

PS

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Israelíes. Many are non-believving, and those who claime to believe belong to various sects or denominatins under the man-given umbrella of Judaism......…...….
Of course, I should have thought, Jesus is the "Lion of Judah."