MGTOW

[EleventhHour]

mothers also have tremendous influence on daughters. let's tell the whole story.

I agree with you that MGTOW is about living for oneself and not God, but I do see a correlation in the fact that both MGTOW and Paul are advocating living a single life without engaging in romantic relationships with women. The reasons for doing so are different, but the end is the same.

Yes mothers do...but when it comes to relating, respecting the opposite sex, and being able to have a healthy relationship with men that comes from the father.

Dads create the standard for future relationships.

For example; If a young woman learns she can manipulate her dad to get what she wants, especially over and over again she will bring that same behavior into a relationship.

Yes, then the motive for a Christian should be completely apart and separate from one's view of women, there should be no connection, it should be singularly because of sincere desire to serve fully without the encumbrances of other responsibilities which I totally understand.

 

[LittleMermaid]

I think that if men don’t like the women they are married to, then that’s their own fault. They picked those women.

mothers also have tremendous influence on daughters. let's tell the whole story.

I agree with you that MGTOW is about living for oneself and not God, but I do see a correlation in the fact that both MGTOW and Paul are advocating living a single life without engaging in romantic relationships with women. The reasons for doing so are different, but the end is the same.

The end is not the same. MGTOWs hate women. God loves everyone. Paul showed brotherly love to many different people including women.
MGTOW is the work of the devil. No man should go their own way. We need to go God’s way.

Just like feminists are unhappy and unfulfilled so are MGTOWs.

 

[EleventhHour]

I think that if men don’t like the women they are married to, then that’s their own fault. They picked those women.

The end is not the same. MGTOWs hate women. God loves everyone. Paul showed brotherly love to many different people including women.
MGTOW is the work of the devil. No man should go their own way. We need to go God’s way.

Just like feminists are unhappy and unfulfilled so are MGTOWs.

Except for women can be sly, duplicitous and master manipulators and hide their true selves.
Men are more straightforward, what you see is what you get for the most part.
And you know it is true.

 

[LittleMermaid]

Except for women can be sly, duplicitous and master manipulators and hide their true selves.
Men are more straightforward, what you see is what you get for the most part.
And you know it is true.

All people can be sly, deceitful, and manipulative. That's part of being a human sinner. You MGTOWs act as if you're perfect. No man is perfect. Yes, women can be nasty, but so can men.

 

[melita916]

Both sexes can manipulate, lie, cheat, etc.

We all need Jesus. For the real!

 

[EleventhHour]

Except for women can be sly, duplicitous and master manipulators and hide their true selves.
Men are more straightforward, what you see is what you get for the most part.
And you know it is true.

Well read the research, plenty to show women enjoy seeing men fail... the media has helped create women that enjoy seeing or like a misandristic power-dynamic mechanism is in play.

This is not about sin nature... I am speaking to social dynamics and social conditioning as per the OP.

Any way have a good day... thumbs down is conversation ender in my book... it means people's emotions are engaged and dispassionate discourse is not possible.

 

[EleventhHour]

MGTOW is generally an overreaction and that there are many fools who embrace it. However, given the current legal climate in the western world, and the likelihood that any long-term relationship will end in court, it does make sense for men to be very cautious about getting involved with any woman.

In court, men have been required to pay child support for children who are not biologically theirs.

In court, men have been required to pay spousal support for the rest of their lives.

In court, men who were never married have been required to pay spousal support.

In court, men have been stripped of their assets and rendered homeless.

In court, men have been prohibited from interacting with their children, on no evidence at all.

In court, men have been labelled as sex abusers and summarily stripped of employment, reputation, and relationships, on no more evidence than a woman's say.

Don't throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater. Consider the reasons why men are avoiding marriage.

There is a latent anti-male bias running through out North American culture, institutions, media etc., of this I have no doubt

 

[Dino246]

Any way have a good day... thumbs down is conversation ender in my book... it means people's emotions are engaged and dispassionate discourse is not possible.

In that case, a "thumbs up" should be a conversation ender too. After all, it means that "people's emotions are engaged" and that "dispassionate discourse is not possible."

 

[Dino246]

There is a latent anti-male bias running through out North American culture, institutions, media etc., of this I have no doubt

Yes; feminism has done a lot of damage. The pendulum has swung much too far, and is being pushed still farther. It is exacerbated by a culture-wide fallacy that "Either you agree with me completely, or you are completely against everything I stand for." That view is prevalent with all big issues, and it is, of course, utter c**p.

 

[EleventhHour]

In that case, a "thumbs up" should be a conversation ender too. After all, it means that "people's emotions are engaged" and that "dispassionate discourse is not possible."

Perhaps, but I highly suspect when a person hits dislike it is a triggered response....but then we can never know for sure.

 

[EleventhHour]

In that case, a "thumbs up" should be a conversation ender too. After all, it means that "people's emotions are engaged" and that "dispassionate discourse is not possible."

You know this would make a good study, put some electrodes on a sample group and determine the level of emotion and type of emotion present with each emoji...hmmmm

 

[Dino246]

Perhaps, but I highly suspect when a person hits dislike it is a triggered response....but then we can never know for sure.

I don't necessarily disagree, and I also don't think there is a need to abandon the conversation just because someone strongly dislikes your ideas.

 

[selfdissolving]

I think that if men don’t like the women they are married to, then that’s their own fault. They picked those women.

The end is not the same. MGTOWs hate women. God loves everyone. Paul showed brotherly love to many different people including women.
MGTOW is the work of the devil. No man should go their own way. We need to go God’s way.

Just like feminists are unhappy and unfulfilled so are MGTOWs.

i think somebody has a personal axe to grind here

and by the way, the husband is not responsible for the way his wife acts. she is.

women have brought MGTOW on themselves

 

[LittleMermaid]

i think somebody has a personal axe to grind here

and by the way, the husband is not responsible for the way his wife acts. she is.

women have brought MGTOW on themselves

Hey you want opinions, you got them. Not my fault they triggered you.

 

[Dino246]

and by the way, the husband is not responsible for the way his wife acts. she is.

women have brought MGTOW on themselves

Those two statements are COMPLETELY contradictory.

 

[Butterflyyy]

Except for women can be sly, duplicitous and master manipulators and hide their true selves.
Men are more straightforward, what you see is what you get for the most part.
And you know it is true.

Wow....this is so untrue...I have been totally manipulated and deceived by a man who is actually a Christian...
You do err in thinking that these traits only belong to females... these traits can belong to any human being...
you clearly seem to be male chauvinistic and ought to repent.

 

[Butterflyyy]

i think somebody has a personal axe to grind here

and by the way, the husband is not responsible for the way his wife acts. she is.

women have brought MGTOW on
themselves

Go read your Bible some more🙂

 

[Butterflyyy]

Hey you want opinions, you got them. Not my fault they triggered you.

At least we get to see who the male chauvinists are on here😁

 

[tourist]

evening folks!
anybody heard of MGTOW? If so, i'd love to hear your opinions on it.

I believe that's a service that AAA provides when your car breaks down. I have a AAA card in my wallet but have yet to use it.

 

[tourist]

See now that's a version of MGTOW I could agree with and even get behind.

But boy do the "women are EEEEEEVIL!" guys sure make a lot of noise!

As I said in another MGTOW thread, I'm joining the FTNIT group. That's the Felines Taking Naps In Trees group. We advocate and practice a philosophy of taking long naps in trees, on ledges, wherever there is a good vantage point and a comfortable floor, and waiting until all the fuss and furor has died down. By the time people get through yelling it will be time for dinner.

What's your take on sloths. They take naps in trees. I like naps.