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You know, I perceive there is Love in you, that means you have the Holy Spirit and that your not a quarelsome babe. First of all Salvation being a one time event is when Jesus died and rose. "Salvation belongs to our God," and that's why it cant be lost, and He will reward everyone according to His work. "Behold I come quickly and My reward is with me to reward every one acccding to His work." Now tel me, what is the reward Jesus is brigning with Him, but the Resurrection. There are verses from the appostles that confirm this: That we will receive according to our labour. "Not by works, lest any man should boast," was only ment to say: we should not think we are better than others, since it's all by the Grace of God; the influence of the Holy Spirit enabling us to Love as Jesus Loves. The New comandment was only posible by the Holy Spirit; following Jesus in His sufferings, to cease from sin and Love our enemies.
but before I get too carried away, the link? A yes it began with me looking up:
my-visitations-part-3-jesus-appeared-in-life-changing-dream

You should read this first, its one hour of reading. I read it 3 times: was most blessed the second time, and the third time realised I had to discipline miself to do the work of walking in the Holy Spirit, to receive mre: to walk in Love, that is mentioned by her ad well, or if you prefer, be disciplined by the Lord to walk in His Love: possible by the Holy Spirit. But can you see that saying the same thing diferently causes quarels until we walk in Love. God confused our languages so that we dont attain unity of the spirit without the Holy Spirit.
The link your looking for, you just had to copy the title in brouser even tho I left the word eternal out of peril, as it sais people will be released from death and hell to be judged according to their works, these, "The rest of the dead, are not raised until the thousand years is fulfilled" "The sea will give up the dead that are in them, death and hell will give up the dead that are in them, and everyone will be judged according to his works. Its the people in the lake of fire that dont apear to be released, as I undetstand, thete is no Love in their heart for them to be released, no final judgment necesary. But ignore this, lets not fight over my view even tho I believeve its corect and dont try tonteach this to others you agree lol, babes will be babes and we cant help God and His help constantly.
So your looking for:
Scriptures warning Christians of eternal peril.
Shortened the page in half to fit here. Dont forget to read her dream, your a godly you will benefit.
By the way, the Way I benefited reading 3 times coresponds to,
Little children who are forgiven: receiving the former rain of the Holy Spirit moderatly.
Father: those who know the Love of the Father and nurture children; receiving "The former and laiter rain together in the same Mont." Then: "Young men who are strong and the Word of God abides in you and have overcome the evil one." This woman receives the crown of life in her dream. I am not there, just entering in at the second level of entering in at the Straiight Gate, still working out putting away my divided spirit. We always have the Grace we need, but the last level of maturity is aboult learning obedience through suffering.
My study journal and her dream are about the same thing. This is her third experience of visitation. I asked the Lord for this earlier this year (before I knew her experience) and he told me: Your not ready, but told me to: Go, this is a time of prayer, its the only way you'l succed... and many other words of confirmation. I faced my unpreparedness and shallow prayer life in the wilderness last spring and its all good, no regrets with no visitation, as He is always with us.
Babe? Is that not a little rude to address @EleventhHour with that term....show some respect pal!!
 

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Behold I am with you in a time of trouble such as never was and shall never be again."
Matthew 28:20 New King James Version (NKJV)
20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

Matthew 24:21 New King James Version (NKJV)
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

It seems you have merely condensed several verses we ALREADY have in the Word to claim the Lord gave you a special revelation.


Got anything we CAN'T find ALREADY in revealed Scripture?
 
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Matthew 28:20 New King James Version (NKJV)
20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

Matthew 24:21 New King James Version (NKJV)
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

It seems you have merely condensed several verses we ALREADY have in the Word to claim the Lord gave you a special revelation.


Got anything we CAN'T find ALREADY in revealed Scripture?
Amen....when people start claiming a revelation.....my alarm bells go off every time....
 
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I was battered for 30 years by the likes of here on this thread.
Proving myself worthy to be accepted.
30 years of hurt, pain misery.
Waiting for the 3 strikes and you are out.
Like the Gauls waiting for the sky to drop on your head.

It fcuked me up.
Yet I knew different and always told struggling Christian the truth even though for me it was not true.

I'm still playing the game such but playing it better.
BillG... hugs brother.

Bad doctrine ..... I have no words to describe the depth of my antipathy towards it.

Just know that you can rest, Jesus has got you covered!
 

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Amen....when people start claiming a revelation.....my alarm bells go off every time....
I would wonder why.
The Book of Romans chapter 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, [a]acceptable to God, which is your [b]spiritual [c]service. 2 And be not fashioned according to this [d]world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is [e]the good and [f]acceptable and perfect will of God.

3 For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but so to think as to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to each man a measure of faith. 4 For even as we have many members in one body, and all the members have not the same office: 5 so we, who are many, are one body in Christ, and severally members one of another. 6 And having gifts differing according to the grace that was given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of our faith; 7 or ministry, let us give ourselves to our ministry; or he that teacheth, to his teaching; 8 or he that exhorteth, to his exhorting: he that giveth, let him do it with [g]liberality; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that showeth mercy, with cheerfulness.

1 Corinthians 14 : 6Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, [προφητείᾳ - prophēteia] or by doctrine?
 
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I would wonder why.
The Book of Romans chapter 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, [a]acceptable to God, which is your [b]spiritual [c]service. 2 And be not fashioned according to this [d]world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is [e]the good and [f]acceptable and perfect will of God.

3 For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but so to think as to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to each man a measure of faith. 4 For even as we have many members in one body, and all the members have not the same office: 5 so we, who are many, are one body in Christ, and severally members one of another. 6 And having gifts differing according to the grace that was given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of our faith; 7 or ministry, let us give ourselves to our ministry; or he that teacheth, to his teaching; 8 or he that exhorteth, to his exhorting: he that giveth, let him do it with [g]liberality; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that showeth mercy, with cheerfulness.

1 Corinthians 14 : 6Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, [προφητείᾳ - prophēteia] or by doctrine?
Obviously you would wonder why....you cannot even get salvation right, the three manifestations of God as Father, Son and Spirit as one God..... much less the above truths......
 

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Yeah.....called Honor....but hey....one who devalues Jesus and the word of God by rejecting the nature of God cannot be expected to understand honor!
The Book of Proverbs chapter 21: 23Those who guard their mouths and their tongues keep themselves from calamity.

The Book of Proverbs chapter 3:35 The wise inherit honor, but fools get only shame.

The Book of Proverbs chapter 18:2Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. 3When wickedness comes, so does contempt, and with shame comes reproach.

The Book of Proverbs chapter 18:6The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating. 7The mouths of fools are their undoing, and their lips are a snare to their very lives.
 

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This thread has gone so far off topic and many pages ago. Now it is entering into a dark space. It is to rebuke that spirit that this music is offered. God blesses and protects His sacred children.
Amen.


 

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Babe? Is that not a little rude to address @EleventhHour with that term....show some respect pal!!
You did not read properly, I was saying that she is not behaving as a quarelsome babe in Christ. Its her reply that trew you off, and by the way glad to see that your not quarelsome and to say that the Lord warned me as well od the danger and allowd me to see the consequences in a dream I had this morning. I posted here and glad to see diferently.
 

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Matthew 28:20 New King James Version (NKJV)
20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

Matthew 24:21 New King James Version (NKJV)
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

It seems you have merely condensed several verses we ALREADY have in the Word to claim the Lord gave you a special revelation.


Got anything we CAN'T find ALREADY in revealed Scripture?
Man, you and I should be Glad, thankful its according to the Word and not deceived to ad to the Word. But you apear to have missed the point: the time of trouble such as never was will hapen im my lifetime and I'm 64; and I Fear God and would not make this up. Others also were shown. A man older than me about 66 was told he will be on earth when the Lord Returns. I wasent told that, tho I may be. or I may die in the Lord during the time of trouble. Was only told: Behold I am with you in a time of trouble such as never was ans shall never be again. Some of us were shown we will be here in the time of trouble. We are entering in it, a woman was shown the war with the beast standing in the Holy place in heaven. I have the mesage copied and will post it here since we are on the subject.
 

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Amen....when people start claiming a revelation.....my alarm bells go off every time....
Here is someone elseses revelation that sais the same thing diferently.
A woman asked to see Jesus in a rapture dream, and experienced being cough up to God:
"Who may ascend the mountain of the Lord? Who may stand in His Holy Place? The one with clean hands and a pure heart."
She was shown a glimpse of the final war in heaven.
The account of her dream:
I was in a part of the country I've never been before, it was very mountainous and there was deserts, and at all these points I had a helper. I was being chased by an enemy and this enemy sometimes actually got me and I knew there was no escape; but I had this Helper and He would help free me, to get me out of situations where at one point I was even tied up, and miraculously my Helper removed what had bound me and We started to leave and flee from the enemy. The enemy was throwing these balls of fire on me and looking back where scripture says, the enemy would throw fiery darts at you. I actually got to see fiery darts thrown at me. In my dream I knew that if I got to this mountain I would be safe. I don’t know how I knew that, but in my dream I knew how to get to this mountain. When I got to the mountain, all of the attacks from the enemy stopped and my Helper was not there. I believe that Helper is my Holy Spirit: is the Holy Spirit. When I came to the mountain there were these steps that looked like they were carved out of the Rock. It looked like the finger of God made them, and I was marveling at these steps as I went up and came to this door. As I'm looking at this beautiful arch door at the very top it was opaque so that I could see someone on the other side. I did not want to be rude and open the door and walk right through, so I opened the door and let Them come in and I ushered Them in. This Person had to bow in because He was so tall. He had shoulder length hair and it was Jesus. I could not talk, I was excited, I was humbled, I was happy, I was so grateful that He was there, and as I'm watching, realizing who I was seeing, looking at Him from head to toe: He was wearing a long white robe with a sash, and He was wearing sandals. I saw the marks on His feet, but it was His feet that I first started to notice, that there was a Living fire coming off of Him. He just glowed, and it was a Live glow, it looked like waves at times, and He spoke to me: Stay on the Rock, and I prayed that I'd stay on the Rock. I watched Him leave and go through a doorway, and I went up to the doorway but I was going to stay on the Rock. This doorway turned into a window, and as I was looking down through the window I could see the twelve apostles, and they were all speaking the Word of God in different ways towards that same enemy I had been fighting. Jesus was now on what looked like a soccer field and the twelve apostles were on the sidelines, and Jesus was fighting the enemy. The last thing I remember is that He had a crown of thorns on His head and the top part of the back of His head was bloodied. I was worried about that but at the same time I knew that He wasn't hurt. He had a rock in His hand and I believe He was fighting the enemy for us. As time goes on, He reveals more to me and I get excited about the fact that Jesus did come to me. I didn't have a rapture dream but I did have Jesus is fighting for us, and that I should continue to stay on the Rock, really learning the word of God, because it is Living and active and sharper than a double edge sword. It’s our weapon against the spiritual warfare that's going on in our lives, and I just hope this encourages someone, God bless.

Stay on the Rock:
“Keep yourselves in the Love of God.”
The morning after seeing the video, woke up with the realization that what she saw from a window that looked like a soccer field would be the dimensions of the Holy place: twice as long as wide. The crown of thorns is the rejection from those desiring control. The stone in His hands: He’s got the whole world in His hand. We are united in Him as living stones in the rebuilding of His temple. The steps ascending to the entrance of the Holy place is the Way Jesus made in Himself, for us to follow in His steps: a secret Ladder hidden from understanding, wisdom we see dimly. "Verily, verily I say to you, hereafter you shall see heaven open and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man." This Ladder Jacob saw by night as he slept, "Behold a ladder set on the earth and the top reached heaven, the angels of God ascending and descending on it and behold the Lord stood above it." Humbled and raised up to God in this Ladder, we suffer many ups and downs: immersed in language of God, we to keep watch until we enter into rest in God.

Living for the praise of God is the daily sacrifice of the new covenant:
"Daily pick up your cross and follow me."
"He that shall endure to the end shall be saved."
No longer interpreting daily sacrifice from old covenant perspective, in an earthly temple that pointed to "The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.”

As we cease from ourselves on higher steps, much is revealed through Love:
"Many shall be purified and made white and refined but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand." From Matthew 24:15 “Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the Holy place, let him who reads understand:"
Jesus answered 2 questions his disciples asked at the same time: the destruction of the temple and the end time of trouble. Let him who reads understand: refers to hidden meaning in a parable. Let those living in the Praise of God flee to the "Mountains of the Lord's house." Let him who is in fellowship with God, not go down to take things in his hands again, and let him who is laboring in the harvest not go back to his old identity. How dreadful for babes and children depending on mother: not led by the Spirit. But pray and don’t wait until the end to learn to soar with God. For then shall be great trouble such as was not since the beginning of the world, nor ever shall be. "Learn a parable from the fig tree. When its branches are yet tender and bring forth leaves, you know that summer is near. So likewise when you see these things come to pass, understand that it is near, even at the doors. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass till all these things be fulfilled." Believers agree, the fig tree represents Israel established in their land again in 1948, "The Lord says, 'In the time of the end, I will bring my people Israel and Judah back and restore them to the land I gave their ancestors to possess, how awful that day will be! None like it. It will be a time of trouble for Jacob, but he will be saved out of it."

It has been over 70 years from the time Israel has been restored into their land as a nation:
"Our days come to seventy years, and if by reason of strength it be eighty, they are labor and sorrow.” Jesus mentioned signs of the end as labor pains: increase in famines, pestilences, earthquakes and storms. Labor pains become more intense and closer together until delivery: earth changes have been increasing for 15 years: the outcome is delivery. "At that time your people will be delivered, everyone whose name is found written in the book. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting Life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who instruct many into righteousness, like the stars forever and ever." One out of two Christians tortured for the faith in communist countries gave up their hope of a better resurrection and gave in to the government to be released and restored in a government approved church but not permitted to evangelize. This compromise is not final: Peter denied the Lord and repented, and later died for the Faith. Communism opposes the church because the world war was lost by communism as Christians on both sides of the war sang praise to God together on the front lines: Christmas Eve 1944, Germans and allies, Catholics and Protestant all came together, putting away their differences to restore the sacrifice of praise to God: Germans lost their motivation to fight except for the younger generation. In a winter where life did not make sense, the daily sacrifice of praise is restored: the enemy who caused deceit to prosper was now coming against the Lord and came to his end. Daniel 8:25 "He will cause deceit to prosper and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power." "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, and His Kingdom endures forever." At the time that John received the Revelation, the Roman Empire was the sixth kingdom on the earth: Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, the other is not yet come, and when he comes, he must continue a short space (this short space fits the world wars), and the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goes into perdition.” The beast, the final time of trouble will happen suddenly and unexpected, "When they shall say peace and safety, then sudden destruction shall come upon them.”