Not By Works

[Ruby123]

Thanks Ruby....

Dont know what the temp is over there but we had a whole week of nearly forty degrees everday. Everyone was walking around like zombies and the beaches were packed.
This week we have relief with lower temps woo hoo!!!!

 

[EleventhHour]

You did not read properly, I was saying that she is not behaving as a quarelsome babe in Christ. Its her reply that trew you off, and by the way glad to see that your not quarelsome and to say that the Lord warned me as well od the danger and allowd me to see the consequences in a dream I had this morning. I posted here and glad to see diferently.

I would state you did not write properly, stating just "babe" is not the same as babe in Christ.

As well, I find it even more insulting that you describe me as a "babe in Christ" since you have no idea who I am, or my background but have made an assumption completely and wholly apart from any knowledge.

As well putting yourself in some superior maturity category and you have yet to get the Gospel correct.

I find you wall of unreadable text very quarrelsome.

 

[PennEd]

Man, you and I should be Glad, thankful its according to the Word and not deceived to ad to the Word. But you apear to have missed the point: the time of trouble such as never was will hapen im my lifetime and I'm 64; and I Fear God and would not make this up. Others also were shown. A man older than me about 66 was told he will be on earth when the Lord Returns. I wasent told that, tho I may be. or I may die in the Lord during the time of trouble. Was only told: Behold I am with you in a time of trouble such as never was ans shall never be again. Some of us were shown we will be here in the time of trouble. We are entering in it, a woman was shown the war with the beast standing in the Holy place in heaven. I have the mesage copied and will post it here since we are on the subject.

First off, ALL believers are to live as if Christ will return in their lifetime. Because He can.

What would be the value in God revealing to you that He would return within the next 25 yrs or so?

If you were to die before your prophecy came to be, you realize that would make you a false prophet, and you know how harshly the Word deals with false prophets.

 

[PennEd]

Here is someone elseses revelation that sais the same thing diferently.
A woman asked to see Jesus in a rapture dream, and experienced being cough up to God:
"Who may ascend the mountain of the Lord? Who may stand in His Holy Place? The one with clean hands and a pure heart."
She was shown a glimpse of the final war in heaven.
The account of her dream:
I was in a part of the country I've never been before, it was very mountainous and there was deserts, and at all these points I had a helper. I was being chased by an enemy and this enemy sometimes actually got me and I knew there was no escape; but I had this Helper and He would help free me, to get me out of situations where at one point I was even tied up, and miraculously my Helper removed what had bound me and We started to leave and flee from the enemy. The enemy was throwing these balls of fire on me and looking back where scripture says, the enemy would throw fiery darts at you. I actually got to see fiery darts thrown at me. In my dream I knew that if I got to this mountain I would be safe. I don’t know how I knew that, but in my dream I knew how to get to this mountain. When I got to the mountain, all of the attacks from the enemy stopped and my Helper was not there. I believe that Helper is my Holy Spirit: is the Holy Spirit. When I came to the mountain there were these steps that looked like they were carved out of the Rock. It looked like the finger of God made them, and I was marveling at these steps as I went up and came to this door. As I'm looking at this beautiful arch door at the very top it was opaque so that I could see someone on the other side. I did not want to be rude and open the door and walk right through, so I opened the door and let Them come in and I ushered Them in. This Person had to bow in because He was so tall. He had shoulder length hair and it was Jesus. I could not talk, I was excited, I was humbled, I was happy, I was so grateful that He was there, and as I'm watching, realizing who I was seeing, looking at Him from head to toe: He was wearing a long white robe with a sash, and He was wearing sandals. I saw the marks on His feet, but it was His feet that I first started to notice, that there was a Living fire coming off of Him. He just glowed, and it was a Live glow, it looked like waves at times, and He spoke to me: Stay on the Rock, and I prayed that I'd stay on the Rock. I watched Him leave and go through a doorway, and I went up to the doorway but I was going to stay on the Rock. This doorway turned into a window, and as I was looking down through the window I could see the twelve apostles, and they were all speaking the Word of God in different ways towards that same enemy I had been fighting. Jesus was now on what looked like a soccer field and the twelve apostles were on the sidelines, and Jesus was fighting the enemy. The last thing I remember is that He had a crown of thorns on His head and the top part of the back of His head was bloodied. I was worried about that but at the same time I knew that He wasn't hurt. He had a rock in His hand and I believe He was fighting the enemy for us. As time goes on, He reveals more to me and I get excited about the fact that Jesus did come to me. I didn't have a rapture dream but I did have Jesus is fighting for us, and that I should continue to stay on the Rock, really learning the word of God, because it is Living and active and sharper than a double edge sword. It’s our weapon against the spiritual warfare that's going on in our lives, and I just hope this encourages someone, God bless.

Stay on the Rock:
“Keep yourselves in the Love of God.”
The morning after seeing the video, woke up with the realization that what she saw from a window that looked like a soccer field would be the dimensions of the Holy place: twice as long as wide. The crown of thorns is the rejection from those desiring control. The stone in His hands: He’s got the whole world in His hand. We are united in Him as living stones in the rebuilding of His temple. The steps ascending to the entrance of the Holy place is the Way Jesus made in Himself, for us to follow in His steps: a secret Ladder hidden from understanding, wisdom we see dimly. "Verily, verily I say to you, hereafter you shall see heaven open and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man." This Ladder Jacob saw by night as he slept, "Behold a ladder set on the earth and the top reached heaven, the angels of God ascending and descending on it and behold the Lord stood above it." Humbled and raised up to God in this Ladder, we suffer many ups and downs: immersed in language of God, we to keep watch until we enter into rest in God.

Living for the praise of God is the daily sacrifice of the new covenant:
"Daily pick up your cross and follow me."
"He that shall endure to the end shall be saved."
No longer interpreting daily sacrifice from old covenant perspective, in an earthly temple that pointed to "The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.”

As we cease from ourselves on higher steps, much is revealed through Love:
"Many shall be purified and made white and refined but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand." From Matthew 24:15 “Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the Holy place, let him who reads understand:"
Jesus answered 2 questions his disciples asked at the same time: the destruction of the temple and the end time of trouble. Let him who reads understand: refers to hidden meaning in a parable. Let those living in the Praise of God flee to the "Mountains of the Lord's house." Let him who is in fellowship with God, not go down to take things in his hands again, and let him who is laboring in the harvest not go back to his old identity. How dreadful for babes and children depending on mother: not led by the Spirit. But pray and don’t wait until the end to learn to soar with God. For then shall be great trouble such as was not since the beginning of the world, nor ever shall be. "Learn a parable from the fig tree. When its branches are yet tender and bring forth leaves, you know that summer is near. So likewise when you see these things come to pass, understand that it is near, even at the doors. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass till all these things be fulfilled." Believers agree, the fig tree represents Israel established in their land again in 1948, "The Lord says, 'In the time of the end, I will bring my people Israel and Judah back and restore them to the land I gave their ancestors to possess, how awful that day will be! None like it. It will be a time of trouble for Jacob, but he will be saved out of it."

It has been over 70 years from the time Israel has been restored into their land as a nation:
"Our days come to seventy years, and if by reason of strength it be eighty, they are labor and sorrow.” Jesus mentioned signs of the end as labor pains: increase in famines, pestilences, earthquakes and storms. Labor pains become more intense and closer together until delivery: earth changes have been increasing for 15 years: the outcome is delivery. "At that time your people will be delivered, everyone whose name is found written in the book. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting Life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who instruct many into righteousness, like the stars forever and ever." One out of two Christians tortured for the faith in communist countries gave up their hope of a better resurrection and gave in to the government to be released and restored in a government approved church but not permitted to evangelize. This compromise is not final: Peter denied the Lord and repented, and later died for the Faith. Communism opposes the church because the world war was lost by communism as Christians on both sides of the war sang praise to God together on the front lines: Christmas Eve 1944, Germans and allies, Catholics and Protestant all came together, putting away their differences to restore the sacrifice of praise to God: Germans lost their motivation to fight except for the younger generation. In a winter where life did not make sense, the daily sacrifice of praise is restored: the enemy who caused deceit to prosper was now coming against the Lord and came to his end. Daniel 8:25 "He will cause deceit to prosper and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power." "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, and His Kingdom endures forever." At the time that John received the Revelation, the Roman Empire was the sixth kingdom on the earth: Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, the other is not yet come, and when he comes, he must continue a short space (this short space fits the world wars), and the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goes into perdition.” The beast, the final time of trouble will happen suddenly and unexpected, "When they shall say peace and safety, then sudden destruction shall come upon them.”

Why can't this just be a dream this woman had, with NO significance, or even possibly deceptive malevolence from the enemy?

There are just tons of private interpretations in this.
Plus, Jesus NO LONGER wears a crown of thorns on His Head. CERTAINLY not in heaven. This is NOT conjecture. He wore no crown of thorns after His resurrection and ascension. Why would anybody claim He would wear one in Heaven?

 

[lightbearer]

If we are in WILlFUL Sin WE are promoting bondage and ignoring or devaluing JESUS, HIS WORK, GRACE and the Fact that the debt of sin has been PAID IN FULL

What devalues this if Jesus the Christ is stating the work of his death and resurrection is insufficient to save completely and that there is something we add to His work.

We add nothing. It is He that works in us both to will and do His good pleaure. Christ in us the hope of Glory.

The writer in Hebrews is stating if we reject the full work of Christ ( an act of grace) then no sacrifice for willful sin remains, because there was none under the old system......so in essence you have completely backwards.

And btw most all sins are willful.

If you mean grace being the favor of God of being able to enter into the Holiest of of all by the veil that is to say His flesh, thereby His putting His laws in our hearts and minds, then yes. Because that is the knowledge of the truth to which he is referring to verse 26.

 

[lightbearer]

All sin is willful....wake up and actually turn the light on upstairs.....!

No all sin is not willful. Sometimes like your post here we respond out of emotion or circumstances. Willful sin implies you know your about to do wrong before you do it and do it anyway. That is willful sin. And that we are strictly warned against. Because if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

 

[stillness]

Why can't this just be a dream this woman had, with NO significance, or even possibly deceptive malevolence from the enemy?

There are just tons of private interpretations in this.
Plus, Jesus NO LONGER wears a crown of thorns on His Head. CERTAINLY not in heaven. This is NOT conjecture. He wore no crown of thorns after His resurrection and ascension. Why would anybody claim He would wear one in Heaven?

For you its whatever you decide andvshould not afect your Faith. For me its another confirmation that we are in the final battle. Each one of us should be convinced accordingly. We are not saved byben time revelation just warned to stand ii the battle: "Who will be ablebto stand?" The Lord told someone else with a visuon of thias battle the answer to this question. Those whohave clean hands and a pure heart."

Why can't this just be a dream this woman had, with NO significance, or even possibly deceptive malevolence from the enemy?

There are just tons of private interpretations in this.
Plus, Jesus NO LONGER wears a crown of thorns on His Head. CERTAINLY not in heaven. This is NOT conjecture. He wore no crown of thorns after His resurrection and ascension. Why would anybody claim He would wear one in Heaven?

You mentioned that you see the time of trouble in the bible and that its not a new revelation. For me interpretation is straight forward: another confirmation that we are in the final battle and so is the womans dream of being on the Titanic taking on water and we know this world is a sinking ship. Another man that was shown a vision of the final battle 30 year ago asked the Lord "Who will be able to stand?" The Lord told Him: Those who have clean hands and a pure heart.

 

[EleventhHour]

No all sin is not willful. Sometimes like your post here we respond out of emotion or circumstances. Willful sin implies you know your about to do wrong before you do it and do it anyway. That is willful sin. And that we are strictly warned against. Because if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

I would suggest you really take a deeper look at the book of Hebrews and how the writer was juxtaposing the old system to the new and affirming our security in Christ.

As well your "will" is always involved so therefore all sin is willful.

"Willful sin" being spoken about is under the old system not the new.

 

[EleventhHour]

We add nothing. It is He that works in us both to will and do His good pleaure. Christ in us the hope of Glory.



If you mean grace being the favor of God of being able to enter into the Holiest of of all by the veil that is to say His flesh, thereby His putting His laws in our hearts and minds, then yes. Because that is the knowledge of the truth to which he is referring to verse 26.

No that is not what I meant.

 

[stillness]

Why can't this just be a dream this woman had, with NO significance, or even possibly deceptive malevolence from the enemy?

There are just tons of private interpretations in this.
Plus, Jesus NO LONGER wears a crown of thorns on His Head. CERTAINLY not in heaven. This is NOT conjecture. He wore no crown of thorns after His resurrection and ascension. Why would anybody claim He would wear one in Heaven?

As for why I know her experience is of the Lord. I did not think to include the inteoduction where she explained that she asked the Lord to be cough up to heaven in a dream. And the night it happenned, was impressed that if she did not eat diner, that the Lord would come to her in her dream. The Lord ashured us that as we are in fellowship with Him, He hears us, and will not give us a snake. Just the same as you mentioned the snake was in her dream as well.

 

[Melach]

Dont know what the temp is over there but we had a whole week of nearly forty degrees everday. Everyone was walking around like zombies and the beaches were packed.
This week we have relief with lower temps woo hoo!!!!

you see? i refer you back to my chart again: i told you guys:

@dcontroversal @UnderGrace @Ruby123 here guys i made a map of the universe according to melach.

you see the black line that i drew with paint? anything below that line is called "death-zone" "hellhole" "uninhabitable" "unlivable" "too hot temperatures for a viking to live in". anything above it, i would agree to live in.

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[GracethroughfaithinChrist]

My previous reply was messed up in the post without having time to corect so here it is again.Yes your corect and the Lord warned me to watch that I dont do this to miself last night and showed me the consequense of this in a deam this morning. This reply was posted earlier this morning.
Ruby123 said:
That's early. I also woke up at about 4am this morning (it is currently 6pm here) I had a dream that I was on the titanic and knew it was about to sink. I could see the ship slowly filling up with water and then I woke up. Have no idea what that means?
My reply this morning, hope this clears the air:
Dear, dear friend of God, your dream has already been interpreted, others have already had your dream and interpretted it for you. The Titanic was considered unsincable; this world's sistem and its so called supper powers, considered insinkable. Some say the economic colapse will happen at the end of this year. I did not believe it, but with your dream of the ship already begining to fill with water... I am aware that the economic colapse already began, as America is already bankrupt and its just a matter of time, but i was still thinking: not this year. Though righ now I see your dream relates to the Church filling up with watter as being filling up with and conformed to the world, and I had a deam of us becoming like the world this morning. First to explain, in revelation there is a whore standing on many waters, "These are the nations she has power over." We know the True Church will not sink or at least those who overcome the world will make it in the life boats. Did you know that many of the Churches in america believe and are thought that they are powerless and believe it; remaining babes in Christ quareling among one another. I warned Dcontroversial of his judgmental attitude yesterday and for a moment there was unresolved anger in me, tho i did let it go and as I went to bed the Holy Spirit warned me to watch that it dosent hapoen to me. Then i dreampt that i was being attacked in my dream by two such quarelsome babes, I was afraid and angry and as I repeated: why are you doing this, I cut of the fingers of my left hand, somehow they calmed down and one with blond hair told me: you can put your fingers back on now. I told Him: I dont know how, I gues I will have to go to the doctor. Interestingly in the dream, I had cut the fingers of my left hand off, having the sword in my right hand but when i looked it was my right hand holding the sword missing the fingers: what we think we are doing to others we are doing to ourselves. I knew this and its why I only had the unresolved anger for a moment and let it go, but the Lord still warned me and showed me the consequences. That would be why babes are powerless: as we quarel we are unable to walk in the Holy Spirit and unable to rightly hold the Sword of the Spirit...

Thanks for sharing. I'll pray for you.

 

[EleventhHour]

Why can't this just be a dream this woman had, with NO significance, or even possibly deceptive malevolence from the enemy?

There are just tons of private interpretations in this.
Plus, Jesus NO LONGER wears a crown of thorns on His Head. CERTAINLY not in heaven. This is NOT conjecture. He wore no crown of thorns after His resurrection and ascension. Why would anybody claim He would wear one in Heaven?

Agree, if it means anything it has to do with something in one own's life.

 

[Chester]

Sorry Blueladybug but your cousins are a pain so they need to be squatted.

they need to be squatted- really??

squatted = to unlawfully occupy an uninhabited building or settle on a piece of land.
"eight families are squatting in the house"

• occupy (an uninhabited building) unlawfully.

 

[EleventhHour]

The Book of Proverbs chapter 21: 23Those who guard their mouths and their tongues keep themselves from calamity.

The Book of Proverbs chapter 3:35 The wise inherit honor, but fools get only shame.

The Book of Proverbs chapter 18:2Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. 3When wickedness comes, so does contempt, and with shame comes reproach.

The Book of Proverbs chapter 18:6The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating. 7The mouths of fools are their undoing, and their lips are a snare to their very lives.

Wow,

What I see over and over again is women trying to emasculate men... sad really.

 

[dcontroversal]

Dont know what the temp is over there but we had a whole week of nearly forty degrees everday. Everyone was walking around like zombies and the beaches were packed.
This week we have relief with lower temps woo hoo!!!!

Awesome....gonna be 28c today here in the Gold Coast today.....staying in Broad Beach for a week

 

[dcontroversal]

I would state you did not write properly, stating just "babe" is not the same as babe in Christ.

As well, I find it even more insulting that you describe me as a "babe in Christ" since you have no idea who I am, or my background but have made an assumption completely and wholly apart from any knowledge.

As well putting yourself in some superior maturity category and you have yet to get the Gospel correct.

I find you wall of unreadable text very quarrelsome.

Agree 100%

 

[dcontroversal]

Hey genius....in AU they say MANY THINGS DIFFERENT THAN WE DO IN THE U.S......and even SPELL things differently.....

they need to be squatted- really??

squatted = to unlawfully occupy an uninhabited building or settle on a piece of land.
"eight families are squatting in the house"

• occupy (an uninhabited building) unlawfully.

 

[dcontroversal]

Wow,

What I see over and over again is women trying to emasculate men... sad really.

Yes indeed.....and while claiming to be of God with no God ordered respect for men.....!!

 

[Lightskin]

Wow,

What I see over and over again is women trying to emasculate men... sad really.

If you’re a man, I stand with you in solidarity. If you’re a woman, I just fell in love. 😎