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I will admit I have been called "babe" a few times, once by the an anesthesiologist trying to get me to wake up from the anesthetic of all things :) .... and agree definitely not quarrelsome.

The rest I cannot agree with.
 

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God ia going to judge and burn the entire world...you are no prophet pal! And yes.....AMERICA will be judged, just like every other nation on the planet!
Notice that I did not say, I'm a prophet; but I have a prophetic gift: I hear the Lord by the Gift of the Holy Spirit, practically every day and some days in conversation with Him. Nothing to brag about though, the Gift doesent make you more mature, as its a Gift, not a Fruit of the Spirit grown througj sufgering with Him. it just means more accountable. I just happened to have the qualifications, "He is a Father to the fatherless," and "He is near the poor and broken hearted." But dont mind my humor needing help as usual, no qualifications needed, just to percevere "Ask and it will be given, knock and it will be oppened, seek and you shall find." Yet the qualification of desperate made itbeadier to percevere. Good that we agree on the judgment, 36 years ago the Lord told me: Behold I am with you in a time of trouble such as never was and shall never be again. A few weeks laiter when I spoke this to a woman about twenty years older than me, the Lord added: For it is coming uppon all people ass a testimony against them. I did not understand until recently that the Lord added the explanation as the Word did not actually aply to her: she is likely already in heaven by now. I am now 64 and it will happen in my lifetime, as long as I continue in the Love of God. The lord healed me of internal bleading after I forgave, about 10 years ago, to keep His word. It was caused by unresolved anger, food alergy that I was ignoring, stress and relationship break up.
 

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Agree, just the brain working things out, a problem when looking for prophetic significance.
Well dear, If you read her dream you will know its the Lord visiting her in her dream, simply because: No one in their right mind with God would make this up, and no one left would know the caracter of God well enough as Himself rebealef to her, and no one lefy could make this up and if you read it you also will understand. The second time I read her dream, I believed I would experience Her experience of intimacy with God and I did and you also will if you but believe.
 

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Well I can agree to disagree with you bro or sis! ITS ALL LOVE FROM MY END
Same here brother or sister. (btw, it's sister on this end. ;) )

I do love bees for making all that juicy honey for me, but im not a beekeeper. The name means Horseman in finnish. Its a derogatory term against gypsies that has been used against us since we work with horses but we TOOK IT and we RAN WITH IT and turned it into something positive.
Good for you! Roma have been degraded and insulted for far too long.
Even during the WW2 Holocaust people hardly know they were one of the largest victim populations. God's mercies surround them all. :(
 

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Thank you, when I really understood the "completed work of Christ" even though I had been a born again believer for a while, it was a game changer.

Words cannot express my joy at having gained this deeper understanding ... it did come at a cost but well worth it. :)

and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of faith.…
Phil 3:9
I was battered for 30 years by the likes of here on this thread.
Proving myself worthy to be accepted.
30 years of hurt, pain misery.
Waiting for the 3 strikes and you are out.
Like the Gauls waiting for the sky to drop on your head.

It fcuked me up.
Yet I knew different and always told struggling Christian the truth even though for me it was not true.

I'm still playing the game such but playing it better.
 

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Same here brother or sister. (btw, it's sister on this end. ;) )

Good for you! Roma have been degraded and insulted for far too long.
Even during the WW2 Holocaust people hardly know they were one of the largest victim populations. God's mercies surround them all. :(
WOW! Thanks so much. Im amazed to be honest that you used that word. "Roma" because thats the real name, ROMA people, or ROMANI people. I just dont use it a lot online cause most folks dont got no idea what it means, they be thinking im from ITALY or something :D

How'd you find out about that word? Do you got some roma family? You are spot on Whispered, many of us perished in WWII and many dont even know of it! I also lost some people from my family during that time! It was tough times for Roma in Finland because Finland was allied with Germany for a while there, and even gave them some jews and gypsies!

We only recently were even allowed to own property here! So you are right we have been OVERLOOKED and continue to be OVERLOOKED, but many are doing their own business, since getting a job is difficult. Some finnish reporter did job applications with a roma name and LITERALLY out of 500 applications only TWO invited her to an interview. TOUGH LUCK!

Many roma here are extremely religious they know all about the basics of the faith, believe in Jesus, usually pentecostals but the problem is many are involved in QUESTIONABLE activities and crime rates are through the roof compared to the native population, which obviously means BAD PRESS and even less folks trust us. BUT on the bright side ive seen MANY turn their life around after hitting ROCK BOTTOM. Many times it takes that to make a U-TURN. And on the bright side the EMPLOYMENT is going up, CRIME is going down and EDUCATION is going up. The new generation is much more active!
 

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WOW! Thanks so much. Im amazed to be honest that you used that word. "Roma" because thats the real name, ROMA people, or ROMANI people. I just dont use it a lot online cause most folks dont got no idea what it means, they be thinking im from ITALY or something :D
:D I played Anagram games online years ago. That's what caused me to pay attention to the spelling of your name.

And I worked with Romani many years ago. :)

How'd you find out about that word? Do you got some roma family? You are spot on Whispered, many of us perished in WWII and many dont even know of it! I also lost some people from my family during that time! It was tough times for Roma in Finland because Finland was allied with Germany for a while there, and even gave them some jews and gypsies!
Amazing isn't it? The hatred and racism of WW2 has been overcome for decades, but the spirit behind it can still be found in the world. :(
 

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We had two chinchilla once.
Can't quite remember why and how but sure my 4 kids had something to do with it.

We bought a nice big cage for them.
Problem was that every time we walked past the cage or stood in front of cage to say hello they would stand on their hind legs and try to squirt their pee over you.

Had to get rid of them which I did.

They made a really comfortable pair of slippers.
Very warm and fluffy:cool:
 

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I was battered for 30 years by the likes of here on this thread.
Proving myself worthy to be accepted.
30 years of hurt, pain misery.
Waiting for the 3 strikes and you are out.
Like the Gauls waiting for the sky to drop on your head.

It fcuked me up.
Yet I knew different and always told struggling Christian the truth even though for me it was not true.

I'm still playing the game such but playing it better.
[hugs you] :( I am sorry to hear of your trials. Don't give anyone permission to take you back to those dark memories. And whatever you do, don't become like those who caused you pain.
God loves you! You do not have to prove yourself to anyone. You've already proved yourself to the Creator. Any time you happen upon a church or group that lends the impression you have to be accepted by their standards in order to be considered a fellow Christian among them, leave!
God knows what they are too. And God knows you don't belong there. No Christian would.
There are churches in our area that are very snooty. It's fine with me because when I enter a building and find a snobby social club instead of a congregation of people who are in Christ, I appreciate the information. Then , as we're told in scripture, I kick the dust from my feet and move on.
Those type churches need u$ more than we will ever need them.
 

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We had two chinchilla once.
Can't quite remember why and how but sure my 4 kids had something to do with it.

We bought a nice big cage for them.
Problem was that every time we walked past the cage or stood in front of cage to say hello they would stand on their hind legs and try to squirt their pee over you.

Had to get rid of them which I did.

They made a really comfortable pair of slippers.
Very warm and fluffy:cool:
Tell me you're kidding. About the slippers part. :cry:
 

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I will admit I have been called "babe" a few times, once by the an anesthesiologist trying to get me to wake up from the anesthetic of all things :) .... and agree definitely not quarrelsome.

The rest I cannot agree with.
Dear sister, quite the object leson here, babes in Chriat are still under the anastetic of living after the flesh that is dead. Many will never wake up and "Be saved through fire and loose their reward." These dont have part in the first Resurrection.
Anyway Im nor here trying to help God, I know I cant and babes will be babes until they at least understand the Grace of God as sufiscient to percevere "My Grace is sufiscient for you, for My strengh is made perdect in your weakness." Are you aware that half the Christians interpret this as a mesage of defeat; not understanding that it ment that drawing on sufiscient Grace, it would multipy in strengt always sufiscient for our need, to make us perfect through suffering with Christ: to cease from sin and overcome the world the flesh and the enemy. I am experiencing this in part, nor an overcomer, as explained earlier, like this woman who received the crown in her dream. if you want to know what that looks like look it up. She is permitted to share this, her experience Like Paul.
 

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[hugs you] :( I am sorry to hear of your trials. Don't give anyone permission to take you back to those dark memories. And whatever you do, don't become like those who caused you pain.
God loves you! You do not have to prove yourself to anyone. You've already proved yourself to the Creator. Any time you happen upon a church or group that lends the impression you have to be accepted by their standards in order to be considered a fellow Christian among them, leave!
God knows what they are too. And God knows you don't belong there. No Christian would.
There are churches in our area that are very snooty. It's find with me because when I enter a building and find a snobby social club instead of a congregation of people who are in Christ, I appreciate the information. Then , as we're told in scripture, I kick the dust from my feet and move on.
Those type churches need u$ more than we will ever need them.
God is using me now in my church.
My ministry is walking with injured soldiers of Jesus and the waifs and strays who come into our church.

And I'm loving it.

I sit with alcoholics who come in, smokers drug addicts and so on.
When they need to go out to top up, smoke I sit with them outside.
Seen a few come to Jesus and had the privilege of baptising them.

God is good.
 

stillness

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[QUOTyouracethroughfaithinChrist, post: 4079673, member: 205145"]Perhaps you have not read the following...

John 10:27-28
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.

Or perhaps, your prejudice has blinded you to think only a few believers will be saved.

Revelation 7:9-14
After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10and crying out with a loud voice, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” 11And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12saying, “Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might be to our God forever and ever! Amen.”
13Then one of the elders addressed me, saying, “Who are these, clothed in white robes, and from where have they come?” 14I said to him, “Sir, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones coming out of the great tribulation. They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.


You need to look in the mirror and realize you are pointing at yourself![/QUOTE]
yes, if you look back just a couple posts on this page I mentioned that the Lord warned me to watch that I dont fall into this myself and showed me the consequence in a dream this morning. I will copy the conversation here:

Ruby123 said:
That's early. I also woke up at about 4am this morning (it is currently 6pm here) I had a dream that I was on the titanic and knew it was about to sink. I could see the ship slowly filling up with water and then I woke up. Have no idea what that means?
Dear, dear friend of God, your dream has already been interpreted, others have already had your dream and interpretted it for you. The Titanic was considered unsincable; this world's sistem and its so called supper powers, considered insinkable. Some say the economic colapse will happen at the end of this year. I did not believe it, but with your dream of the ship already begining to fill with water... I am aware that the economic colapse already began, as America is already bankrupt and its just a matter of time, but i was still thinking: not this year. Though righ now I see your dream relates to the Church filling up with watter as being filling up with and conformed to the world, and I had a deam of us becoming like the world this morning. First to explain, in revelation there is a whore standing on many waters, "These are the nations she has power over." We know the True Church will not sink or at least those who overcome the world will make it in the life boats. Did you know that many of the Churches in america believe and are thought that they are powerless and believe it; remaining babes in Christ quareling among one another. I warned Dcontroversial of his judgmental attitude yesterday and for a moment there was unresolved anger in me, tho i did let it go and as I went to bed the Holy Spirit warned me to watch that it dosent hapoen to me. Then i dreampt that i was being attacked in my dream by two such quarelsome babes, I was afraid and angry and as I repeated: why are you doing this, I cut of the fingers of my left hand, somehow they calmed down and one with blond hair told me: you can put your fingers back on now. I told Him: I dont know how, I gues I will have to go to the doctor. Interestingly in the dream, I had cut the fingers of my left hand off, having the sword in my right hand but when i looked it was my right hand holding the sword missing the fingers: what we think we are doing to others we are doing to ourselves. I knew this and its why I only had the unresolved anger for a moment and let it go, but the Lord still warned me and showed me the consequences. That would be why babes are powerless: as we quarel we unable to walk in thevHoly Spirit and unable to rightly hold the Sword of the Spirit...
 

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You need to look in the mirror and realize you are pointing at yourself!
My previous reply was messed up in the post without having time to corect so here it is again.Yes your corect and the Lord warned me to watch that I dont do this to miself last night and showed me the consequense of this in a deam this morning. This reply was posted earlier this morning.
Ruby123 said:
That's early. I also woke up at about 4am this morning (it is currently 6pm here) I had a dream that I was on the titanic and knew it was about to sink. I could see the ship slowly filling up with water and then I woke up. Have no idea what that means?
My reply this morning, hope this clears the air:
Dear, dear friend of God, your dream has already been interpreted, others have already had your dream and interpretted it for you. The Titanic was considered unsincable; this world's sistem and its so called supper powers, considered insinkable. Some say the economic colapse will happen at the end of this year. I did not believe it, but with your dream of the ship already begining to fill with water... I am aware that the economic colapse already began, as America is already bankrupt and its just a matter of time, but i was still thinking: not this year. Though righ now I see your dream relates to the Church filling up with watter as being filling up with and conformed to the world, and I had a deam of us becoming like the world this morning. First to explain, in revelation there is a whore standing on many waters, "These are the nations she has power over." We know the True Church will not sink or at least those who overcome the world will make it in the life boats. Did you know that many of the Churches in america believe and are thought that they are powerless and believe it; remaining babes in Christ quareling among one another. I warned Dcontroversial of his judgmental attitude yesterday and for a moment there was unresolved anger in me, tho i did let it go and as I went to bed the Holy Spirit warned me to watch that it dosent hapoen to me. Then i dreampt that i was being attacked in my dream by two such quarelsome babes, I was afraid and angry and as I repeated: why are you doing this, I cut of the fingers of my left hand, somehow they calmed down and one with blond hair told me: you can put your fingers back on now. I told Him: I dont know how, I gues I will have to go to the doctor. Interestingly in the dream, I had cut the fingers of my left hand off, having the sword in my right hand but when i looked it was my right hand holding the sword missing the fingers: what we think we are doing to others we are doing to ourselves. I knew this and its why I only had the unresolved anger for a moment and let it go, but the Lord still warned me and showed me the consequences. That would be why babes are powerless: as we quarel we are unable to walk in the Holy Spirit and unable to rightly hold the Sword of the Spirit...
 

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God is using me now in my church.
My ministry is walking with injured soldiers of Jesus and the waifs and strays who come into our church.

And I'm loving it.

I sit with alcoholics who come in, smokers drug addicts and so on.
When they need to go out to top up, smoke I sit with them outside.
Seen a few come to Jesus and had the privilege of baptising them.

God is good.
May God continue to bless you in your service for the Kingdom.