The ten commandments are the law of God. God gave these laws to Moses as we read in the book of Exodus chapter 20.
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I am not educated in the field of psychopathology and therefore would not make such a judgment upon them. To be clear, that is not to devalue your opinion, learned or otherwise.
What I will suggest to everyone who may read EG and the opinions about their postings , yours, mine , and others, is that I believe it would serve to hold them in our prayers. Especially if they do happen to suffer a mental condition. As you describe, or otherwise.
Where would any Christian be if it were not for the grace of God? Wherever we are may we always be able and willing to extend our grace and compassion to all in need. Those who show us their plight and need of such compassion, and even those who do not. That we hold all people in prayer that they find their way to the truth, the light, and the eternal life in Christ Jesus. In the end God shall be their judge. What does ours do, if we make it public especially, and I have also done this I admit, if we judge them in life and do not pray they find their way home while they have a lifes time to do so.
What I will suggest to everyone who may read EG and the opinions about their postings , yours, mine , and others, is that I believe it would serve to hold them in our prayers. Especially if they do happen to suffer a mental condition. As you describe, or otherwise.
Where would any Christian be if it were not for the grace of God? Wherever we are may we always be able and willing to extend our grace and compassion to all in need. Those who show us their plight and need of such compassion, and even those who do not. That we hold all people in prayer that they find their way to the truth, the light, and the eternal life in Christ Jesus. In the end God shall be their judge. What does ours do, if we make it public especially, and I have also done this I admit, if we judge them in life and do not pray they find their way home while they have a lifes time to do so.
Whispered, we eternally-gratefull and I agreed to have a respectful discussion. I have learned in life that people who do not respond to questioned or who avoid responding because they find themselves in a position that it appears as if it is backfiring, they tend immediately attack to defend themselves, they cannot accept the fact that they could be wrong, I did not say they are wrong.
eternally-gratefull appears to be young and I was young at one time and we do not realize that we create within us a narcissistic behavior, this does not mean that the person is mentally ill and under no circumstance did I say he was mentally ill. We all have idiosyncrasies in out lives that we cannot see. I once wrote... "An illusion has nothing to do with reality, but the reflection of a mirror is true to reality. Let the word of God be your mirror." The last part is important because as we look into the word of God it should show us how we look and when we really see ourselves we take that step to want to be corrected and changed.
I read some of his post and some people reacted like me, but I probably was more direct, sometime we need to be this way so that we can learn. I tell God, to chastise me with his word and to let the scars be my remembrance that I allowed myself to be chastise so that I can walk in his righteousness. eternally-gratefull and I from this day on will get along. I met a person and I called him a yard dog because the moment I refuted the person he commenced following he and all immediately attacked me. Believe, he thank God that I came along as a christian he was leaning toward the Hebrews root movements. We became true friends (two years), I met his entire family via skype and this year I will visit him and his wife. I live abroad.
I took your message at heart, but sometimes people become overbearing and it has to be pointed out. Assuming eternally-grateful and I become good friend and I hope so, then we have to admit that sometimes God will allow it to happen to change people, whether them or me. I see that he has a zeal for the word of God and I love that in him, but it is about us putting it on the table allowing the Spirit of God to enlighten the mind, not about us pulling verse out of context to try to trap which many do.
Thank you for you word of encouragement.
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Who wrote the Ten Commandments on tablets of stones? Who gave Moses the Ten Commandment? I send you in the past how the Ten Commandments are fulfilled and it appears you have not read it. Read the teacher of the law and Yeshua, two commandments fulfills the Ten Commandments and the teacher of the law was aware of this which is why Yeshua commended him for it.
Thou shalt love God is a commandment, right? Do you love God? Are you working?
Put all this together and be fair in weighing it. When one in impressed with a doctrine it becomes hard for them to weigh fairly what is given to them to read. I told you this many a times, but you continue with as the same question and I am responding to it.
Who wrote the Ten Commandments on tablets of stones? Who gave Moses the Ten Commandment? I send you in the past how the Ten Commandments are fulfilled and it appears you have not read it. Read the teacher of the law and Yeshua, two commandments fulfills the Ten Commandments and the teacher of the law was aware of this which is why Yeshua commended him for it.
Thou shalt love God is a commandment, right? Do you love God? Are you working?
Put all this together and be fair in weighing it. When one in impressed with a doctrine it becomes hard for them to weigh fairly what is given to them to read. I told you this many a times, but you continue with as the same question and I am responding to it.
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The commandments not only brought curses, but blessings as well. As I was writing this the Spirit of God enlightened my mind with the following... The law is all about obedience and everyone that opposes my laws focuses on the curse, but why aren't they forcing on the blessings, did I take the blessing of the law to the cross or just the curse?
Look at the way these words came to me. Now, my question to you, if God took the curse of the law to the cross, why didn't he take the blessings of the laws to the cross? I will answer that, because there are blessings when one is obedient to the law of God.
You ask me a question about Moses talking to God's people on the curse of law and if I recall, I gave you the answer, but little did I know that God was going to use your question to tell me the above.
You should know me by now, I respond to every post, but you will have to excuse me for not responding to the rest of what you ask because the above is our answer to the law whether one accepts it or not. The word of God is simple man makes it difficult ultimately distorting the word of God, which is why I am not impress with those who have collars, as I once stated, only dogs have collars. You need to ask yourself the question, why did God take only the curse of the law to the cross and not the blessings? There is only one truthful answer that one can give, because there are blessings in being obedient to the law of God. Again, it has nothing to to do with works, but all to do with obedience.
eternalty-grateful, as I stated to Whispered, sometimes things like this happens because God know all things and your question was important.
Now, you can read the story of the teacher of the law and Yeshua and asked God, why did Yeshua commended the teacher of the law.
To all that believe that one should be obedient to the Ten Commandment, when you are told that Yeshua took the curse of the law to the cross, ask them did he also take the blessings of the law to the cross, if not then why? Give them the answer, there are blessings when one is obedient to the law of God, nothing to do with works.
As for "the word loss of blessings", I meant lots of blessings in the law and my context should have shown you that was a typo, if I wrote loss it was a typo, I did not catch it, but thank you for bring it to my attention. This is what I mean of a respectful discussion, if you made an error, your context will tell me what you meant, so I won't hold against you an honest mistake.
What led to hostility was the way you responded, you were not responding to what I told you to read and other questions that you did not respond to. We are getting someplace because of respect on our behalf is being displayed. You do not have to tell me you study, but you appear to still be upset, as for me, I am direct but brush it off not allowing it to bother me, even if I get mocked.
The commandments not only brought curses, but blessings as well. As I was writing this the Spirit of God enlightened my mind with the following... The law is all about obedience and everyone that opposes my laws focuses on the curse, but why aren't they forcing on the blessings, did I take the blessing of the law to the cross or just the curse?
Look at the way these words came to me. Now, my question to you, if God took the curse of the law to the cross, why didn't he take the blessings of the laws to the cross? I will answer that, because there are blessings when one is obedient to the law of God.
You ask me a question about Moses talking to God's people on the curse of law and if I recall, I gave you the answer, but little did I know that God was going to use your question to tell me the above.
You should know me by now, I respond to every post, but you will have to excuse me for not responding to the rest of what you ask because the above is our answer to the law whether one accepts it or not. The word of God is simple man makes it difficult ultimately distorting the word of God, which is why I am not impress with those who have collars, as I once stated, only dogs have collars. You need to ask yourself the question, why did God take only the curse of the law to the cross and not the blessings? There is only one truthful answer that one can give, because there are blessings in being obedient to the law of God. Again, it has nothing to to do with works, but all to do with obedience.
eternalty-grateful, as I stated to Whispered, sometimes things like this happens because God know all things and your question was important.
Now, you can read the story of the teacher of the law and Yeshua and asked God, why did Yeshua commended the teacher of the law.
To all that believe that one should be obedient to the Ten Commandment, when you are told that Yeshua took the curse of the law to the cross, ask them did he also take the blessings of the law to the cross, if not then why? Give them the answer, there are blessings when one is obedient to the law of God, nothing to do with works.
As for "the word loss of blessings", I meant lots of blessings in the law and my context should have shown you that was a typo, if I wrote loss it was a typo, I did not catch it, but thank you for bring it to my attention. This is what I mean of a respectful discussion, if you made an error, your context will tell me what you meant, so I won't hold against you an honest mistake.
What led to hostility was the way you responded, you were not responding to what I told you to read and other questions that you did not respond to. We are getting someplace because of respect on our behalf is being displayed. You do not have to tell me you study, but you appear to still be upset, as for me, I am direct but brush it off not allowing it to bother me, even if I get mocked.
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Correction on a word on the respond I sent you... focusing on the blessings (not forcing on the blessings)
The commandments brought not only curses, but blessings as well. As I was writing this the Spirit of God enlightened my mind with the following... The law is all about obedient and everyone that opposes my laws focuses on the curse, but why aren't they focusing on the blessings, did I take the blessing of the law to the cross or just the curse?
Correction on a word on the respond I sent you... focusing on the blessings (not forcing on the blessings)
The commandments brought not only curses, but blessings as well. As I was writing this the Spirit of God enlightened my mind with the following... The law is all about obedient and everyone that opposes my laws focuses on the curse, but why aren't they focusing on the blessings, did I take the blessing of the law to the cross or just the curse?
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Questions...
1) A husband and a wife becomes believers (becoming the righteousness of God), down the road the husbands commits adultery, does the husband have to repent from that sin? Yes or No,
2) If YES, why and if NO, why?
3) Do you believe once saved always saved?
4) True, one cannot pluck you out of the Father's hands, but you yourself can, do you agree this statement?
Last question...
5) I think you gave me a thumbs down when it came to talking about the one God, why?
6) Can you give me your view on the trinity, a word I really do not like because as previously stated, it can give the impression of a polytheistic view if not explain correctly.
Questions...
1) A husband and a wife becomes believers (becoming the righteousness of God), down the road the husbands commits adultery, does the husband have to repent from that sin? Yes or No,
2) If YES, why and if NO, why?
3) Do you believe once saved always saved?
4) True, one cannot pluck you out of the Father's hands, but you yourself can, do you agree this statement?
Last question...
5) I think you gave me a thumbs down when it came to talking about the one God, why?
6) Can you give me your view on the trinity, a word I really do not like because as previously stated, it can give the impression of a polytheistic view if not explain correctly.
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not sure why God would tell you that,
people focus on the curse, because Jesus took the curse so we could be saved,
that should tell you that the curse is a severe thing that should not be overlooked, because it meand that without God becoming a curse for us that curse would condemn us to hell
God tells us to do good will recieve blessings.but even non believers are blessed if they do good, but what good is it, after life, they still have to pay God the penalty of the curse, because they did not obey every jot and tittle of the law, or as James said, they may have kept all the law. Yet when they stumbled in the one point, the curse of the law condemned them because they were guilty.
remember, out fucus is on why the law can not save us, and what is the curse, jesusntook the curse so we could be freel. Thus the curse must be what condemns us correct
we can not go on because you are stil ignoring the curse of the law. and why paul started THAT fact is the reason we can not be justified by the law.
until we get this resolved you will never understand the point I man making
1. your doing it again
2. I know you believe we need to obey the ten commands, And if we do we will be blessed, and guess what I believe it, but not in the way you think. you also are not listening to my response and not responding to it, which in reality, even if your not trying to, is an insult to the one your supposed to be having a discussion with
3. the reason it got hostile is because you kept telling me I had to read every word you post so I can understand, which I did, I do understand, and I am giving you counterpoints to what those words said. We should (that’s called trying to have a discussion is it not)
4. I did stop reading your words later, because it became futile, because you refused to read mine, I still, by what you keep saying, do not think you understand what I am saying
1. I am NOT saying we are free to sin, or disobey commands
2. I am NOT saying our lives should Live lives which are disobedient,
3. I am NOT saying we should be lawbreakers,
if you talk to me about my questions, concernign the curse and why the curse is the reason we can not be justified,a
and why just one sin makes us guilty of the whole law (a law breaker) you will see WHAT I am trying to say to you,
if you continue to go as you are you will never know what I am trying to say, and continue to be left mad and upset because you think I do not care what you think which is not true
people focus on the curse, because Jesus took the curse so we could be saved,
that should tell you that the curse is a severe thing that should not be overlooked, because it meand that without God becoming a curse for us that curse would condemn us to hell
God tells us to do good will recieve blessings.but even non believers are blessed if they do good, but what good is it, after life, they still have to pay God the penalty of the curse, because they did not obey every jot and tittle of the law, or as James said, they may have kept all the law. Yet when they stumbled in the one point, the curse of the law condemned them because they were guilty.
remember, out fucus is on why the law can not save us, and what is the curse, jesusntook the curse so we could be freel. Thus the curse must be what condemns us correct
we can not go on because you are stil ignoring the curse of the law. and why paul started THAT fact is the reason we can not be justified by the law.
until we get this resolved you will never understand the point I man making
1. your doing it again
2. I know you believe we need to obey the ten commands, And if we do we will be blessed, and guess what I believe it, but not in the way you think. you also are not listening to my response and not responding to it, which in reality, even if your not trying to, is an insult to the one your supposed to be having a discussion with
3. the reason it got hostile is because you kept telling me I had to read every word you post so I can understand, which I did, I do understand, and I am giving you counterpoints to what those words said. We should (that’s called trying to have a discussion is it not)
4. I did stop reading your words later, because it became futile, because you refused to read mine, I still, by what you keep saying, do not think you understand what I am saying
1. I am NOT saying we are free to sin, or disobey commands
2. I am NOT saying our lives should Live lives which are disobedient,
3. I am NOT saying we should be lawbreakers,
if you talk to me about my questions, concernign the curse and why the curse is the reason we can not be justified,a
and why just one sin makes us guilty of the whole law (a law breaker) you will see WHAT I am trying to say to you,
if you continue to go as you are you will never know what I am trying to say, and continue to be left mad and upset because you think I do not care what you think which is not true
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My question is, can one be truly obedient (my response is no, not according to Hods standard) the pharisee watered down the law. said he was obedient and thus did not need CHrist. The law which he thought saved him, did not complete its purpose in him
and why everyone who is not truly obedient is said to be cursed
and why this “curse” which Jesus took in our place, is the reason paul said, we can NOT be justified by the law
think of it this way
if we can not be justified by the law. How can we possibly be sanctified by the same law. when that same law condemns us?
and why everyone who is not truly obedient is said to be cursed
and why this “curse” which Jesus took in our place, is the reason paul said, we can NOT be justified by the law
think of it this way
if we can not be justified by the law. How can we possibly be sanctified by the same law. when that same law condemns us?
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Continuing
21. The O.T. sacrifices were not recognized as the Gospel or types of the Messiah as sin-bearer, but only seen as such in retrospect. this is not true, the law is a tutor as Paul said,
22. The Holy Spirit indwells only believers in the dispensation of Grace, not O.T. and not after the Rapture. add the word permanently and I will agree, the HS indwelt both Saul and David and many others in the OT. And he will indwell all after the rapture also
23. Jesus.made an offer of the literal Kingdom to Israel; since Israel rejected it, it is postponed. True, god said I give you this land as an eternal gift. The church was never promised a plot of land in the middle east, Lev 26 gives the requirements for them to live and enjoy the land
24. O.T. believers were not in Christ, not part of the Body or Bride of Christ. yes some believe this
25. The Law has been abolished. The law is still in force to do. Not one jot and tittle
26. O. T. laws are no longer in effect unless repeated in the N.T. the law could never save us, and condemns us just as much today as back then adultry is a sin.
27. The Millenium is the Kingdom of God. Dispensationalists are always Pre-Millenial and usually Pre-Tribulational. True but not sure most are
28. The O.T. animal sacrifices will be restored in the Millenium. Some believe this
29. The Millenium will fulfill the Covenant to Abraham. Israel has a future. Abrahams covenant is eternal yes on davids, .the gifts and calling of god are irrevocable concerning israel
30. David will sit on the Millenial throne in Jerusalem. Wrong it will be davids son, Jesus
21. The O.T. sacrifices were not recognized as the Gospel or types of the Messiah as sin-bearer, but only seen as such in retrospect. this is not true, the law is a tutor as Paul said,
22. The Holy Spirit indwells only believers in the dispensation of Grace, not O.T. and not after the Rapture. add the word permanently and I will agree, the HS indwelt both Saul and David and many others in the OT. And he will indwell all after the rapture also
23. Jesus.made an offer of the literal Kingdom to Israel; since Israel rejected it, it is postponed. True, god said I give you this land as an eternal gift. The church was never promised a plot of land in the middle east, Lev 26 gives the requirements for them to live and enjoy the land
24. O.T. believers were not in Christ, not part of the Body or Bride of Christ. yes some believe this
25. The Law has been abolished. The law is still in force to do. Not one jot and tittle
26. O. T. laws are no longer in effect unless repeated in the N.T. the law could never save us, and condemns us just as much today as back then adultry is a sin.
27. The Millenium is the Kingdom of God. Dispensationalists are always Pre-Millenial and usually Pre-Tribulational. True but not sure most are
28. The O.T. animal sacrifices will be restored in the Millenium. Some believe this
29. The Millenium will fulfill the Covenant to Abraham. Israel has a future. Abrahams covenant is eternal yes on davids, .the gifts and calling of god are irrevocable concerning israel
30. David will sit on the Millenial throne in Jerusalem. Wrong it will be davids son, Jesus
Did you ask yourself the question, why did Yeshua take the curse of the law and not the blessings of the law? Please answer, because why would he do away with the law if there is a blessing for those who are obedient to the law. Keep this in mind, the law has NOTHING to do with salvation, it has NOTHING to do with justification and it has NOTHING to do with making one the righteousness of God. If it has nothing to do with what I mentioned then why did God give them? If you say to lead us to Christ, so that we may be guilty of sin you are correct, but as you see it has nothing to do with what I mentioned. The pharisees/scribes distorted the law of God, making it what it was not intended to be and that is what the Apostle Paul was correcting. He himself asked, do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. So, if the law is not made void what do YOU do with it?
People were doctrinated to believe that the whole law was taken to the cross. Why didn't make any mention about the blessing in being obedient to the law? satan distorted it with the pharisees, then afterward he push people to teach that they are done away with, but the Scriptures says that the law of God is Perfect, so why would God remove something that he calls perfect. Removing the law caused a division because the Jews and the Gentiles and that is what satan intention was and he did it be removing the Sabbath, that removed the entire Ten Commandments.
Yes the curse is severe which is why Yeshua took the curse of the law to the cross, but that is the only thing he took from the law, the curse and not the blessing. A word of encouragement, put aside all what you believe on this topic, pray before you read and ask God to reveal it to you, that is all I ask. Let me make this clear, being obedient to the law has NOTHING to do with salvation it is about obedience and there is no difference in being obedient to the commandments Love God with all and being obedience to the law, it is all about obedience. The curse will now condemn us because he redeemed us from that curse by believing in him, but my question to you, the person who does not believe is he redeemed from the curse of the law? That curse will come to him at time of judgment, he will be cast into the lake of fire. There is no condemnation to those who are IN Christ.
Yes, there are people who do not know Yeshua but are blessed because they are doing that which is right, but my question are they redeem from the curse of the law? Only if they believe and receive Yeshua. The young man told Yeshua that he keeps the law, he left sad. Scripture says, what does it prophet a man if he gains the whole world and lose his soul? Also, there is a way that seem righteous to a man but the end thereof is destruction.
I am not ignoring the curse of the law and I am making it clear from the above and I also made myself clear in the above that the law has nothing to do with being save, nor justification, nor make one God's righteousness. The Apostle Paul was correcting and that is what the letters of Epistles are, correction and instruction. They were making the law as if it was work and that is a distorted teaching that the church of Galatians were doing and Acts 15 is an example.
I clearly understand it and if some reads the Scripture without knowing doctrine they will come out with the truth of God's word, what God may clear when he first spoke.
You asked how could God tell me that? Look at the tension of this discussion and believe me, never once did I say you were wrong, I am telling you what God made clear when he first spoke. A one time I believe in what you believe because I was taught that, but as I started reading Scriptures, no commentary, not leaning to people who are put in high place, I started learning the truth of God's word. Let me also make this clear, I am not into the Hebrews root movement and I do not call myself a messianic believer, I call myself a follower of Yeshua and lean more toward Christianity then the Messianic, the difference between us, I hold the Sabbath and I am obedient to the law of God, nothing to do with what I said above.
I am convince without a doubt that what I am post is what God made clear when he first spoke, is that simple when one reads the Scriptures, but men distorts God's word and impress it as with a hot iron in the lives of many.
It is okay and I respect you honesty in wanting to end this discussion with me, but you can get on my site https://info349479.wixsite.com/mysite I post lessons the Spirit of God teaches me, it is about encouragement and growing with God in Yeshua.
You can even email me from there and I send you there not to purchase the book, but to share biblical teachings that you probably never heard, but in you subconscious you might have known.
People were doctrinated to believe that the whole law was taken to the cross. Why didn't make any mention about the blessing in being obedient to the law? satan distorted it with the pharisees, then afterward he push people to teach that they are done away with, but the Scriptures says that the law of God is Perfect, so why would God remove something that he calls perfect. Removing the law caused a division because the Jews and the Gentiles and that is what satan intention was and he did it be removing the Sabbath, that removed the entire Ten Commandments.
Yes the curse is severe which is why Yeshua took the curse of the law to the cross, but that is the only thing he took from the law, the curse and not the blessing. A word of encouragement, put aside all what you believe on this topic, pray before you read and ask God to reveal it to you, that is all I ask. Let me make this clear, being obedient to the law has NOTHING to do with salvation it is about obedience and there is no difference in being obedient to the commandments Love God with all and being obedience to the law, it is all about obedience. The curse will now condemn us because he redeemed us from that curse by believing in him, but my question to you, the person who does not believe is he redeemed from the curse of the law? That curse will come to him at time of judgment, he will be cast into the lake of fire. There is no condemnation to those who are IN Christ.
Yes, there are people who do not know Yeshua but are blessed because they are doing that which is right, but my question are they redeem from the curse of the law? Only if they believe and receive Yeshua. The young man told Yeshua that he keeps the law, he left sad. Scripture says, what does it prophet a man if he gains the whole world and lose his soul? Also, there is a way that seem righteous to a man but the end thereof is destruction.
I am not ignoring the curse of the law and I am making it clear from the above and I also made myself clear in the above that the law has nothing to do with being save, nor justification, nor make one God's righteousness. The Apostle Paul was correcting and that is what the letters of Epistles are, correction and instruction. They were making the law as if it was work and that is a distorted teaching that the church of Galatians were doing and Acts 15 is an example.
I clearly understand it and if some reads the Scripture without knowing doctrine they will come out with the truth of God's word, what God may clear when he first spoke.
You asked how could God tell me that? Look at the tension of this discussion and believe me, never once did I say you were wrong, I am telling you what God made clear when he first spoke. A one time I believe in what you believe because I was taught that, but as I started reading Scriptures, no commentary, not leaning to people who are put in high place, I started learning the truth of God's word. Let me also make this clear, I am not into the Hebrews root movement and I do not call myself a messianic believer, I call myself a follower of Yeshua and lean more toward Christianity then the Messianic, the difference between us, I hold the Sabbath and I am obedient to the law of God, nothing to do with what I said above.
I am convince without a doubt that what I am post is what God made clear when he first spoke, is that simple when one reads the Scriptures, but men distorts God's word and impress it as with a hot iron in the lives of many.
It is okay and I respect you honesty in wanting to end this discussion with me, but you can get on my site https://info349479.wixsite.com/mysite I post lessons the Spirit of God teaches me, it is about encouragement and growing with God in Yeshua.
You can even email me from there and I send you there not to purchase the book, but to share biblical teachings that you probably never heard, but in you subconscious you might have known.
My question is, can one be truly obedient (my response is no, not according to Hods standard) the pharisee watered down the law. said he was obedient and thus did not need CHrist. The law which he thought saved him, did not complete its purpose in him
Can we truly be obedient? I responded to the question many times, if we walk after the Spirit the Spirit will fulfill the righteousness of the law. So, I do not live my life say, I cannot commit adultery, I cannot steal, etc., my relationship is not with the law, it is with God in Yeshua and I seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, the Spirit of God will do what he has to do to have the righteousness of the law fulfilled.
The Scriptures tell us that the Spirit of God teaches us how to walk in his righteousness and the the Spirit of God makes his righteousness straight before our face, why? Because if it is not straight before our most likely we would divert from his ways, being disobedient to his laws, again nothing to do with what I previously stated.
Many a times I told you that the law has nothing to do with justification, but you continue to bring that up. Anyone that says it has to do with justification needs to be rebuked.
Can we truly be obedient? I responded to the question many times, if we walk after the Spirit the Spirit will fulfill the righteousness of the law. So, I do not live my life say, I cannot commit adultery, I cannot steal, etc., my relationship is not with the law, it is with God in Yeshua and I seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, the Spirit of God will do what he has to do to have the righteousness of the law fulfilled.
The Scriptures tell us that the Spirit of God teaches us how to walk in his righteousness and the the Spirit of God makes his righteousness straight before our face, why? Because if it is not straight before our most likely we would divert from his ways, being disobedient to his laws, again nothing to do with what I previously stated.
Many a times I told you that the law has nothing to do with justification, but you continue to bring that up. Anyone that says it has to do with justification needs to be rebuked.
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you still are ignoring the issue. You seem to want to twist what I am asking and make it seem like it really does not matter
i am not talking about blessings, so please do not go there. i have not denied blessings for obedience. So why do you insist to return there as if it matters?
paul said no one can be justified by the law BECAUSE everyone is cursed
why does the law curse you? Can you answer this?
why did James say anyone who sins just once is guilty?
you still are ignoring the issue. You seem to want to twist what I am asking and make it seem like it really does not matter
i am not talking about blessings, so please do not go there. i have not denied blessings for obedience. So why do you insist to return there as if it matters?
paul said no one can be justified by the law BECAUSE everyone is cursed
why does the law curse you? Can you answer this?
why did James say anyone who sins just once is guilty?
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1. Your Wrong, the law has everything to do about justification, it proves to all men they are cursed, because cursed is the one who does not confirm and obey ever command
the law is not about obedience. It is about proving to us our sin, and in doing so showing us what must be accomplished to purify sin. (the law of sacrifice
which in turn should lead us to Vhrist (I am guilty and require my curse to be removed)
2. the law brings a curse to Everyone, because no one can keep the law as required. As paul said, before the law I was fine, after the law the commandment came and I died, because the law is what condemns me
3.the law can not tell you how to be obedient, it shows you how, disobedient you are. that’s why ever jot and title will never fail
4.the command said do not do this,
does not tell you how,to,do,this. That’s why it can not tell you how to do hood
all it does ishow you on a root level how disobedient you are
if you are looking to the law and think you are obedient, you do not understand the law
the law is not about obedience. It is about proving to us our sin, and in doing so showing us what must be accomplished to purify sin. (the law of sacrifice
which in turn should lead us to Vhrist (I am guilty and require my curse to be removed)
2. the law brings a curse to Everyone, because no one can keep the law as required. As paul said, before the law I was fine, after the law the commandment came and I died, because the law is what condemns me
3.the law can not tell you how to be obedient, it shows you how, disobedient you are. that’s why ever jot and title will never fail
4.the command said do not do this,
does not tell you how,to,do,this. That’s why it can not tell you how to do hood
all it does ishow you on a root level how disobedient you are
if you are looking to the law and think you are obedient, you do not understand the law
I made this clear many times, the law was not giving to justified a man, neither to make man God's righteousness, neither to save man, it was giving to be obedient, the pharisees distorted the word of God. It is clear from the commandment, be OBEDIENCE and blessing will follow, be DISOBEDIENT and curse will follow.
2 Corinthians 3:6-11
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
Is the Law of God the ministration of Death? No.
Is the Law of God the ministration of Condemnation? No.
Is the Law of God something that could be said we are not under any more? No.
These are all descriptions of the 10 commandments AND CANNOT BE the Law of God.
The Law of God gives Life. The Law of God gives Blessings. The Law of God gives Righteousness.
The 10 commandments can do NONE of these things.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
Is the Law of God the ministration of Death? No.
Is the Law of God the ministration of Condemnation? No.
Is the Law of God something that could be said we are not under any more? No.
These are all descriptions of the 10 commandments AND CANNOT BE the Law of God.
The Law of God gives Life. The Law of God gives Blessings. The Law of God gives Righteousness.
The 10 commandments can do NONE of these things.
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