Why is this not being taught in Church?
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The gospel was preached through the hearing of faith using the ceremonial laws . As a shadow they pointed ahead to the cross. the glory that followed . Paul was expanding it . John wrote the last chapter . ..Revelation .
We look back to that glorious time, a lively hope they looked ahead. One gospel one hope.
1 Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
We look back to that glorious time, a lively hope they looked ahead. One gospel one hope.
1 Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
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no, dude - He was not born of corrupted flesh. He was born of a virgin, not of the seed of man. it's the seed of man that transmits corruption in the flesh 'in Adam all die' -- a foetus receives no blood from its mother, and the life is in the blood.
He is perfect man, and perfect God, in one, the great mystery of godliness. He was bodily resurrected, and this proves something very important which challenges gnosticism.
because the flesh doesn't profit us -- but still we will also be bodily raised just as He was, and we will be transformed to become like Him. we will be changed, and we will still have bodies. it was no mistake that God created Adam, a body manifesting the soul that pilots it. and it was no mistake Christ came in the same form, adding perfect humanity to Himself.
just because the flesh profits nothing doesn't mean Christ's flesh was corrupted. He was sinless, and He was born in the flesh: if His flesh was corrupted, He would not be sinless. He had to be born of a virgin, not of men, to be the true Son of Man, breaking down the hostility between the flesh & the spirit.
He is perfect man, and perfect God, in one, the great mystery of godliness. He was bodily resurrected, and this proves something very important which challenges gnosticism.
because the flesh doesn't profit us -- but still we will also be bodily raised just as He was, and we will be transformed to become like Him. we will be changed, and we will still have bodies. it was no mistake that God created Adam, a body manifesting the soul that pilots it. and it was no mistake Christ came in the same form, adding perfect humanity to Himself.
just because the flesh profits nothing doesn't mean Christ's flesh was corrupted. He was sinless, and He was born in the flesh: if His flesh was corrupted, He would not be sinless. He had to be born of a virgin, not of men, to be the true Son of Man, breaking down the hostility between the flesh & the spirit.
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that's just not true, dude
Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”
Jesus said to her, “I AM The Resurrection and The Life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
(John 11:24-26)
there it is, right there. the very same gospel all the apostles proclaimed; the only gospel. the kingdom of heaven is the kingdom of God. -
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and here it is in ancient times, too:
there was no sacrifice in the law for murder nor any for adultery, only the penalty of death.
the firstborn son of David suffered for David's sin, and David's sin was removed, that David might have life.
David knew that he would go to him.
So David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the LORD.”
And Nathan said to David, “The LORD also has put away your sin; you shall not die."
(2 Samuel 12:13)
there was no sacrifice in the law that took away sin; it only covered it with blood. there was no sacrifice in the law for murder nor any for adultery, only the penalty of death.
the firstborn son of David suffered for David's sin, and David's sin was removed, that David might have life.
David knew that he would go to him.
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like for instance when He calls Himself the "good" Shepherd?
Christ is telling this unbelieving man who thinks Jesus is only a wise rabbi that He is in fact God manifest in the flesh.
Christ is not telling him that life and righteousness is by the law, and He is certainly not telling him that He Himself is not good. He's asking him why he calls Him good since he doesn't believe who He is? it's a demonstration to this unbelieving liar who sought to inherit life by works that he doesn't know Who it is he's speaking to.
Christ is telling this unbelieving man who thinks Jesus is only a wise rabbi that He is in fact God manifest in the flesh.
Christ is not telling him that life and righteousness is by the law, and He is certainly not telling him that He Himself is not good. He's asking him why he calls Him good since he doesn't believe who He is? it's a demonstration to this unbelieving liar who sought to inherit life by works that he doesn't know Who it is he's speaking to.
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He thought he knew. Saw all the miracles shred bread with the five thousand tasted of the good things to come And called him Good Master a name reserved for God not seen.
Yes, Jesus was a good Shepard having the Good Master working in him to both will and do the good pleasure of God. Call no man Good Master on earth one is our Father in heaven . Not sure of any shepherds in the new order.
The answer. . . but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. It was to follow Jesus to whom the father spoke through obeying the will of the unseen father that was in Jesus called "walking by faith". Therefore increasing our teaching how to walk by faith the unseen eternal. Hiding the spiritual meaning in the parables
But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.Mathew 23:8-10
Whenever like in the example below Christ would reveal the gospel understanding of faith that worked in them again teaching them to walk by faith .Their response was "increase that faith" that works with us
Luke 17:4-6 King James Version (KJV) And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him. And the apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith. And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.
Yes, Jesus was a good Shepard having the Good Master working in him to both will and do the good pleasure of God. Call no man Good Master on earth one is our Father in heaven . Not sure of any shepherds in the new order.
The answer. . . but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. It was to follow Jesus to whom the father spoke through obeying the will of the unseen father that was in Jesus called "walking by faith". Therefore increasing our teaching how to walk by faith the unseen eternal. Hiding the spiritual meaning in the parables
But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.Mathew 23:8-10
Whenever like in the example below Christ would reveal the gospel understanding of faith that worked in them again teaching them to walk by faith .Their response was "increase that faith" that works with us
Luke 17:4-6 King James Version (KJV) And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him. And the apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith. And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.
I already did!
Here are your words from post #27 in this thread: "Even the Son of man said his corrupted flesh profits for nothing."
Here is part of your post #44, where you quote Jesus' words as recorded by John:
"John 6 :63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
Finally, here are my words from post #47 of this thread: "Is the word "corrupted" in that verse? Anywhere? NO! "
Here are your words from post #27 in this thread: "Even the Son of man said his corrupted flesh profits for nothing."
Here is part of your post #44, where you quote Jesus' words as recorded by John:
"John 6 :63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
Finally, here are my words from post #47 of this thread: "Is the word "corrupted" in that verse? Anywhere? NO! "
Yes, Christ the anointing Holy Spirit of God came in the flesh for a one time demonstration of the unseen work of the father pouring out spirit life on the corrupted flesh . Some turn that upside down as if flesh was poured out on spirit.
Romans 8 King James Version (KJV There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Romans 8 King James Version (KJV There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
You just called yourself the father of lies.
Jesus the Son of Man and Jesus the Son of God are one and the same. There aren't two of them.
Matthew 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Matthew 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels
Matthew 17:9 Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.
Matthew 20:28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
John 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Jesus the Son of Man and Jesus the Son of God are one and the same. There aren't two of them.
Matthew 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Matthew 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels
Matthew 17:9 Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.
Matthew 20:28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
John 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
It was corrupted I did not add any thing just a different paraphrase
The easy read version paraphrases it.
John 6:63 It is the Spirit that gives life. The body is of no value for that.
or the Voice
John 6:63 The Spirit brings life. The flesh has nothing to offer.
The Message translates it
John 6:63 What gives life is God's Spirit; human power is of no use at all.
How do you paraphrase the section in John 6 ? The flesh did profit? The Spirit profits for nothing? Can't serve two masters. The things seen of men the temporal and the things of God not seen the eternal .
Which Master will you serve? I chose the incorruptible Spirit that dwells in us. The same one Jesus claimed.
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
The easy read version paraphrases it.
John 6:63 It is the Spirit that gives life. The body is of no value for that.
or the Voice
John 6:63 The Spirit brings life. The flesh has nothing to offer.
The Message translates it
John 6:63 What gives life is God's Spirit; human power is of no use at all.
How do you paraphrase the section in John 6 ? The flesh did profit? The Spirit profits for nothing? Can't serve two masters. The things seen of men the temporal and the things of God not seen the eternal .
Which Master will you serve? I chose the incorruptible Spirit that dwells in us. The same one Jesus claimed.
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
how is it the one who believes in Him lives even though they die?
that ain't detached from what He did by laying down His life and taking it up again.
just because the disciples did not yet understand these things does not mean it is something 'different' - the one whose understanding matters is God's, and there is no time ever when God does not know all these things.
that ain't detached from what He did by laying down His life and taking it up again.
just because the disciples did not yet understand these things does not mean it is something 'different' - the one whose understanding matters is God's, and there is no time ever when God does not know all these things.