Not By Works

[dcontroversal]

The Father gave His Son, His Son gave His life, so people who work can earn their salvation. That’s the crap you’re pushing. Ridiculous pistachio; simply ridiculous.

We had this dance the last time that fraud was here....he flat denies what faith really is and pushes/peddles his master's fraudulent faithing crap.....

 

[Pisteuo]

I would be persuaded if there was even the slightest remote chance of you being correct, but you are not.

I love you bro, I really do. I think your heart is in the right place when it comes to sincere love and caring for others, wanting everyone to be saved. The problem is you’re placing undue burden upon others because you are incorrect with your theology.

I speak for most everyone here when I say we want the best for you, and that means embracing the simplicity of God’s saving grace in Jesus Christ.

I've pretty much used all the tools at my disposal to try and persuade you. The only thing I have left is weaponry, and weaponry is used to force people to do something. We both would agree that's not God's way. We all must choose who we will serve.

If this failure is on me, may God forgive me!

 

[dcontroversal]

You have no clue what Faith is and how to apply it. You can't even distinguish the difference between Grace and pisteuo. Your a perfect example a deceived called out one who think their somekind of spiritual depository. You have zero capability to listen and have a productive conversation. So do what you good at, respond with your vile venom. But be assured, you and I know your attitude is just a front, hiding your inability to have an honest look at the truth I've put on the table right in front of you.

Your suffering from a severe case of spiritual nepolean syndrome. You may be able to make your followers in here swallow that, but we know different don't we?

What I know is three fold maybe four when dealing with you..

a. You are a fake
b. You have no concept of faith
c. You peddle a perverted view of faith
d. You do not know what you are talking about

End of story!

 

[dcontroversal]

You

I'll simplify it for you.

I preach and live surrender, you preach and live divide and conquer. I m sure that's one thing we can all agree on!

Do not flatter yourself...you are as false as they come!

 

[dcontroversal]

You could actually try something new. Humble yourself before God and your followers and have a real look at Faith and how it's applied, apart from the Grace of Christ!

You could try something new yourself....like actually trusting Jesus by biblical faith instead of peddling the false drivel your preacher peddles!

 

[dcontroversal]

The words believe, believer, and believing, are mistranslations. Those words are not in the Greek language.

The above blather peddled by this stooge is exactly when he is wrong.....his attempt to re-define faith is not only false but Satanic to boot.....

 

[Whispered]

The kjv makes it clear that it’s the faith of Christ, not our faith in Christ, that saves us.

Maybe consider generative case when differentiating between faith in and faith of Christ? "In", is the preposition we use in English, as in the KJV and others where faith in Christ appears, and means we believe Jesus. The generative case in the Greek uses "of" is idiomatic as far as the common (Koine) Greek is concerned.And as such is in every sense stating the same thing as is meant by, faith in Christ. "Of", in the Greek idiom, faith of Christ, the object, Christ is that which the faith refers to.

It should be said also that the phrase, faith of Christ, does not consistently appear in the KJV. The translators for the KJV version didn't appear too concerned about there being a difference in actual meaning.

 

[dcontroversal]

Pr

And that's your choice!

I personally don't rely on any epistle as I'm more committed to the epistle Christ an I are writing through a real relationship with Him, not His words and promises.

But when I do look for the reflection of God in other people's Epistles, I always filter it through the original manuscripts which are in Greek.

Proof positive of why you are a deceiver right here in this post...a complete rejection of the truth to peddle this faithing crap straight from the hog pen!

 

[Whispered]

Why must it be they or them or us and we? Is Christ divided? Does any other blood cover our sins ?
This thread is a stain on what God is.......love!

Warning: This is a fly by remark. Will get no response!

Well, if you fly by and read this and don't respond that's OK too. I read someone comment on your remark above and wanted to tell you, I know exactly what you meant when you referred to the stain. And your observation was proven true pages later than this there.
One day I'll ask God why those who claim His name while defending His word use all the wrong language if they want people to believe they are in service.

 

[dcontroversal]

I read your post here and I see agreement with what I wrote. I just said it simpler. 😇

Interesting....you agree with a deceiver that denies the word faith as defined by the bible while embracing his own skewed version of faith that has been embellished into this FAITHING crap that is as false as it comes...

 

[EleventhHour]

Well, if you fly by and read this and don't respond that's OK too. I read someone comment on your remark above and wanted to tell you, I know exactly what you meant when you referred to the stain. And your observation was proven true pages later than this there.
One day I'll ask God why those who claim His name while defending His word use all the wrong language if they want people to believe they are in service.

You know I think we have moved beyond the cryptic language... just tell me how you really feel.

 

[Pisteuo]

What I know is three fold maybe four when dealing with you..

a. You are a fake
b. You have no concept of faith
c. You peddle a perverted view of faith
d. You do not know what you are talking about

End of story!

Our story never started bud!

 

[EleventhHour]

Pr

Proof positive of why you are a deceiver right here in this post...a complete rejection of the truth to peddle this faithing crap straight from the hog pen!

Okay .. "he filters it through the original manuscripts" ... pretty amazing!!!

 

[dcontroversal]

Why must it be they or them or us and we? Is Christ divided? Does any other blood cover our sins ?
This thread is a stain on what God is.......love!

Warning: This is a fly by remark. Will get no response!

Exactly....come mouth, accuse and then cower in the shadows......we will let God judge the thread....not some mouthy hypocritical fraud that comes by, mouths, accuses and then flees.......what a joke!!

 

[dcontroversal]

Okay .. "he filters it through the original manuscripts" ... pretty amazing!!!

ahhaahhaaha he is full of crap......

 

[Pisteuo]

Pr

Proof positive of why you are a deceiver right here in this post...a complete rejection of the truth to peddle this faithing crap straight from the hog pen!

Do you only get the courage to reply to me after you start drinking?

 

[dcontroversal]

Well, if you fly by and read this and don't respond that's OK too. I read someone comment on your remark above and wanted to tell you, I know exactly what you meant when you referred to the stain. And your observation was proven true pages later than this there.
One day I'll ask God why those who claim His name while defending His word use all the wrong language if they want people to believe they are in service.

Hahahahahahhahahaha.....pretty bold statement.....fairly confident no such thing will happen and make sure while you are at it to ask Jesus why he called me hypocrites, white washed coffins, fools, blind etc......give notice so we can watch.....!!

 

[EleventhHour]

Do you only get the courage to reply to me after you start drinking?

I only need a drink after I talk to you... helps bring me back to reality.

 

[Whispered]

Hahahahahahhahahaha.....pretty bold statement.....fairly confident no such thing will happen and make sure while you are at it to ask Jesus why he called me hypocrites, white washed coffins, fools, blind etc......give notice so we can watch.....!!

Notice:
"...ask Jesus why he called me ......"

Forgive me Lord. Though you did give me that sense of humor.

 

[dcontroversal]

I wonder why you and he attempt to get believers to think that every translation is wrong, and you and he are correct.

Because they are both false....10 to 1 the bozo he is quoting has figured out he was wrong and wishing he could warn people like the rich man did his brothers....!