The Texas Chainsaw Bible Massacre
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The equals sign doesn't make sense in that last quasi-sentence. I agree 'church' is an assembly (primarily) for believers to edify one another and the break bread. They typically met in homes in Biblical times, though the Jerusalem church also met in the temple courts, at least early on. The apostles evangelized in the temple courts, synagogue, and the marketplace. I imagine the Acts 2 message being preached outside of the upper room, probably in the street.
I am just wondering here. This is a tangent, but are you against Christians in countries that are not under severe persecution meeting in homes like the early church did? There isn't any evidence for a 'steeplehouse' style church building in the New Testament. There were churches that met in homes out of Jerusalem, in the house of Aquilla and Priscilla, in the house of Nympha, in the house of Philemon (or Arcchippus, depending on how one interprets the opening verses of Philemon.) Paul wrote from Corinth of 'Gaius mine host, and of the whole church'. It was the norm to have church meetings in homes back then. The Jerusalem church was quite large and met in Solomon's porch and from house to house.
Paul evangelized in synagogues, the marketplace, and the Aereopagos. But 'church' meetings outside of Jerusalem are associated with homes of individuals if the location is mentioned. Paul met with some men in the lecture hall of Tyrannus. It could have 'been' church or evangelistic outreach. James made a reference to his readers who had the faith of the Lord Jesus Christ having a 'synagogue' in James 2:2.
But generally, there were meetings in homes. The idea of a church building being built as sacred space-- holy ground-- isn't in the Bible. I wonder if some people treat these places like the high places in the Old Testament.
Paul evangelized in synagogues, the marketplace, and the Aereopagos. But 'church' meetings outside of Jerusalem are associated with homes of individuals if the location is mentioned. Paul met with some men in the lecture hall of Tyrannus. It could have 'been' church or evangelistic outreach. James made a reference to his readers who had the faith of the Lord Jesus Christ having a 'synagogue' in James 2:2.
But generally, there were meetings in homes. The idea of a church building being built as sacred space-- holy ground-- isn't in the Bible. I wonder if some people treat these places like the high places in the Old Testament.
You are very welcome. And, thank you. I wrote it. It describes what I believe the Bible is telling us about the true nature of 'the church' and 'churches'.
I understand. What I believe is, in a way, similar to what you describe here; only, with some difference(s).
Using what is written on that web page in a relative comparison to "the kingdom", let me suggest that:
(From your point of view, in "kingdom" terms.)
~ The 'spiritual' [church] represents the kingdom that you have been describing - as a spiritual [invisible] kingdom that exists currently, and has existed since it began in the first century.
~ The 'universal' [church] represents the kingdom that most everyone else is describing - as a physical kingdom that will exist for 1000 years starting at some point in the future.
Would you say that this is accurate to any reasonable degree?
I understand. What I believe is, in a way, similar to what you describe here; only, with some difference(s).
Using what is written on that web page in a relative comparison to "the kingdom", let me suggest that:
(From your point of view, in "kingdom" terms.)
~ The 'spiritual' [church] represents the kingdom that you have been describing - as a spiritual [invisible] kingdom that exists currently, and has existed since it began in the first century.
~ The 'universal' [church] represents the kingdom that most everyone else is describing - as a physical kingdom that will exist for 1000 years starting at some point in the future.
Would you say that this is accurate to any reasonable degree?
Do you do house church? If so, how do people in your house church think of not only your amil stance but your questioning the salvation of those who don't? Have you managed to find a whole house church of amils?
I know of a house church that had some full preterists in it. It eventually had to split.
I know of a house church that had some full preterists in it. It eventually had to split.
Acts 5:21
11 So great fear came upon all the church and upon all who heard these things.
12 And through the hands of the apostles many signs and wonders were done among the people. And they were all with one accord in Solomon’s Porch. 13 Yet none of the rest dared join them, but the people esteemed them highly.