Dr. Birx and Dr Fauci should be fired for fear-mongering

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How many people have HIV in the United States?
An estimated 1.1 million people in the United Statesa had HIV at the end of 2016, the most recent year for which this information is available. Of those people, about 14%, or 1 in 7, did not know they had HIV.
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/statistics.html

......and yet it was worthy of any quarantine
 
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How many people have HIV in the United States?
An estimated 1.1 million people in the United Statesa had HIV at the end of 2016, the most recent year for which this information is available. Of those people, about 14%, or 1 in 7, did not know they had HIV.
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/statistics.html

......and yet it was worthy of any quarantine
HIV is not airborne, not present in a cough or sneeze ... wow ...seriously
 
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Why do you insist on denegrating the opinions of everyone? Do you think that you, and you alone, have valid concerns and that everyone else is to be belittled?
Opinions?
That was not an opinion post.
Belittle well maybe so I respond how people respond to me.
I countered with facts
And I have walked away and mean to try and keep that way.
 
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Opinions?
That was not an opinion post.
Belittle well maybe so I respond how people respond to me.
I countered with facts
And I have walked away and mean to try and keep that way.
Tempers are running hot.....everyone is stressed, I know I am. But not everyone is stressed for the same reasons....and people seek validation and relief. They come here and instead of grace, they're receiving words like "geesh, you're not serious are you"....the subtext of which can be summed up simply, its "you're a twit".

If I was to guess, which can be dangerous....my guess would be that you're stressing over people not complying with mitigation efforts....thus potentially prolonging this new normal, and also possibly making the situation worse.....creating more community spread.

Do I have that right?
 
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Tempers are running hot.....everyone is stressed, I know I am. But not everyone is stressed for the same reasons....and people seek validation and relief. They come here and instead of grace, they're receiving words like "geesh, you're not serious are you"....the subtext of which can be summed up simply, its "you're a twit".

If I was to guess, which can be dangerous....my guess would be that you're stressing over people not complying with mitigation efforts....thus potentially prolonging this new normal, and also possibly making the situation worse.....creating more community spread.

Do I have that right?
I am concerned about by people who are completely uniformed, completely biased, and make light of a serious situation as though it were nothing at all.

It is people on the fringe that deny .. they are worrisome...but I am not stressed, perturbed maybe.
 
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I am concerned about by people who are completely uniformed, completely biased, and make light of a serious situation as though it were nothing at all.

It is people on the fringe that deny .. they are worrisome...but I am not stressed, perturbed maybe.
I try not to judge, but I fail a lot....

I'm not exactly sure what 'people on the fringe' means....there's people on the political fringe, the economic fringe, the world is full of fringes....I imagine that in one respect or another I am probably on some fringe myself, maybe you are too.

And I'm likewise not sure what you mean by "deny". I don't know that anyone is denying the pandemic.....you can't turn on the news or go on-line without hearing and reading about it.

What is it you think that people are denying? I think I know but I don't want to assume.
 
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I try not to judge, but I fail a lot....

I'm not exactly sure what 'people on the fringe' means....there's people on the political fringe, the economic fringe, the world is full of fringes....I imagine that in one respect or another I am probably on some fringe myself, maybe you are too.

And I'm likewise not sure what you mean by "deny". I don't know that anyone is denying the pandemic.....you can't turn on the news or go on-line without hearing and reading about it.

What is it you think that people are denying? I think I know but I don't want to assume.
People on the fringe are those who are not living in reality.
Have they been to a hospital to see what is happening.
No
People who liken this virus to a common cold in direct opposition to reality.

Do I really need to go on.
 
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People on the fringe are those who are not living in reality.
Have they been to a hospital to see what is happening.
No
People who liken this virus to a common cold in direct opposition to reality.

Do I really need to go on.
My sister in law is a nurse in one hospital, a neighbour works in the pharmacy at a different hospital, another neighbour works as a ultrasound tech at yet another hospital....that doesn't make me an expert by any stretch, but combined with what's being reported I think I have a decent handle on the situation.

What I'm reading, and its being confirmed by those I know who work at hospitals is that things as of yet have not been as bad as feared....there is some strain, but the system is not being overwhelmed at this point....of course that could change.

In terms of comparing covid-19 to the common cold....there's so much that isn't yet known at this point. Reports are that for a large number of people, the young and otherwise healthy....that the effect of covid-19 is in fact not much worse than the common cold...and with so many asymptomatic cases believed to be out there, perhaps one could say the cold is worse. But that's what we know now....we don't know what might happen with a second/third/fourth infection.....lots of people get a cold every year and its not big deal....will that be the case for those re-infected with the coronavirus?

Obviously for older people, especially those with underlying health issues....comparing coronavirus to the common cold is just stupid....nobody dies of the common cold even if they're diabeteic with cardiovascular and kidney disease (a not uncommon trifecta).

So being kind and attempting to display God's grace, I can understand why a younger and otherwise healthy person might equate coronavirus to something as benign as the common cold...and ultimately I hope and pray they are right, but based on the information we have now....well, there just isn't enough data.

Be well....
 
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Correct evolving DATA OF THE DEAD AT THE START OF THE UPWARD EXPONENTIALLY GROWING CURVE

MONTANA -- ZERO DEATHS FOUR
NORTH DAKOTA -- ZERO DEATHS TWO
WYOMING -- ZERO DEATHS
NEBRASKA -- ZERO DEATHS TW0
WEST VIRGINA -- ZERO DEATHS ONE
ALASKA -- ZERO DEATHS TWO
HAWAII -- ZERO DEATHS
UTAH -- 1 DEATH THREE
MAINE - 1 DEATH THREE
NEW HAMPSHIRE - 1 DEATH TWO
NEW MEXICO - 1 DEATH TWO
ALABAMA - 1 DEATH NINE
IDAHO - 3 DEATHS SIX
IOWA - 3 DEATHS SIX
MISSISSIPPI - 3 DEATHS SIXTEEN
Do you realize by upping the numbers in such a miniscule amount,you are agreeing the PANDEMIC is way overblown?
 

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You are arguing facts with those who make up their own "facts" to suit their far right wing agenda. They will follow Trumpism into Hell & not care. This is not religion I see here. It is pharisees, legalism
Perhaps you would like to apologize for this post?