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Jeremiah Laments over Judah
4 “If you will return, O Israel,” says the Lord,
“Return to Me;
And if you will put away your abominations out of My sight,
Then you shall not be moved.
2 And you shall swear, ‘The Lord lives,’
In truth, in [a]judgment, and in righteousness;
The nations shall bless themselves in Him,
And in Him they shall glory.”
3 For thus says the Lord to the men of Judah and Jerusalem:
It concerns Lev 26, and the desolation of the land
Lev 26:
27 ‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, but walk contrary to Me,
28 then I also will walk contrary to you in fury;
and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 You[g] shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.
30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and cast your carcasses on the lifeless forms of your idols;
and My soul shall abhor you.
31 I will lay your cities waste and bring your sanctuaries to desolation, and I will not smell the fragrance of your [h]sweet aromas.
32 I will bring the land to desolation, and your enemies who dwell in it shall be astonished at it.
33 I will scatter you among the nations and draw out a sword after you;
your land shall be desolate and your cities waste.
This is what Jeremiah was warning about
4 “If you will return, O Israel,” says the Lord,
“Return to Me;
And if you will put away your abominations out of My sight,
Then you shall not be moved.
2 And you shall swear, ‘The Lord lives,’
In truth, in [a]judgment, and in righteousness;
The nations shall bless themselves in Him,
And in Him they shall glory.”
3 For thus says the Lord to the men of Judah and Jerusalem:
It concerns Lev 26, and the desolation of the land
Lev 26:
27 ‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, but walk contrary to Me,
28 then I also will walk contrary to you in fury;
and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 You[g] shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.
30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and cast your carcasses on the lifeless forms of your idols;
and My soul shall abhor you.
31 I will lay your cities waste and bring your sanctuaries to desolation, and I will not smell the fragrance of your [h]sweet aromas.
32 I will bring the land to desolation, and your enemies who dwell in it shall be astonished at it.
33 I will scatter you among the nations and draw out a sword after you;
your land shall be desolate and your cities waste.
This is what Jeremiah was warning about
if one doesn't 'believe' the Torah, then they don't believe Jesus -
JOHN 5:46.
For had you believed Moses, you would have believed Me: for he wrote of Me.
MATT. 5:17.
Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
ACTS. 21:20.
And when they heard it, they glorified The Lord, and said unto Him, thou see, brother,
how many (((thousands of Jews))) there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the Law: =
some Jews certainly 'denied and some gentiles certainly denied', but to 'lump' JEWS into a group
is certainly anti-semitic', and to group GENTILES into a group is certainly anti-gentilic'...
ROMANS 2:28.
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29.
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter;
(whose praise is not of men, but of God).
JOHN 5:46.
For had you believed Moses, you would have believed Me: for he wrote of Me.
MATT. 5:17.
Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
ACTS. 21:20.
And when they heard it, they glorified The Lord, and said unto Him, thou see, brother,
how many (((thousands of Jews))) there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the Law: =
some Jews certainly 'denied and some gentiles certainly denied', but to 'lump' JEWS into a group
is certainly anti-semitic', and to group GENTILES into a group is certainly anti-gentilic'...
ROMANS 2:28.
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29.
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter;
(whose praise is not of men, but of God).
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I don´t believe in the neanderthal, sir...and I don´t believe that GOD created a first world...because, I know that The WORD of GOD is a testimony of JESUS...so, if GOD created a first world, why....why, since CHRiST was planned from before the foundation of the world was even laid....and if there was never going to be salvation in this first world which you have implied is being identified in Genesis 1:1, why would GOD have created a first...foundation.....to begin with and then by HIS WORD say, that THE SAVIOR of mankind was planned, foreknown...before the foundation of the world...
I don´t believe in the neanderthal, sir...and I don´t believe that GOD created a first world...because, I know that The WORD of GOD is a testimony of JESUS...so, if GOD created a first world, why....why, since CHRiST was planned from before the foundation of the world was even laid....and if there was never going to be salvation in this first world which you have implied is being identified in Genesis 1:1, why would GOD have created a first...foundation.....to begin with and then by HIS WORD say, that THE SAVIOR of mankind was planned, foreknown...before the foundation of the world...
The issue is not a match to perfection, but correspondence:
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal,
and, lo, there was a great earthquake;
I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void
and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair,
and the moon became as blood;
and the heavens, and they had no light.
And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together;
I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled
and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly
And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal,
and, lo, there was a great earthquake;
I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void
and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair,
and the moon became as blood;
and the heavens, and they had no light.
And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together;
I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled
and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly
And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
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I also believe Ephesians 4:8. However, the emptying of that captivity was a one time event...GOD went back, preached the GOSPEL to those who had not benefited by HIS first coming and HE led that captivity in HIS train....when HE ascended....just as ephesians 4:8 states...and HE took back the keys to hades and death...
One time event...
Which is why those of old, that generation prior to HIS physical coming will stand in the judgment and condemn this generation (that is, those who DID benefit by CHRIST´ś coming but still continued in disbelief of THE GOSPEL...
One time event...
Which is why those of old, that generation prior to HIS physical coming will stand in the judgment and condemn this generation (that is, those who DID benefit by CHRIST´ś coming but still continued in disbelief of THE GOSPEL...