Does someone need to ask God outloud "please save me" to be saved? Just had maybe an hour plus long conversation in chat in a Christian chat room. My position might have been we are saved by faith, so no?
Does someone need to ask God outloud "please save me" to be saved?
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No...
They need to believe Jesus.. All of His words and trust that the Atonement Jesus secured by His death on the cross paid the penalty for all their sins..
NOPE.
All you need is faith and belief in Jesus, and accept His grace..
Isn't it just faith?
Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Lord, remember me in your kingdom!
Be not removed from the SIMPLICITY found in CHRIST!
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
LOL! Faith and belief are the same thing. And grace is what God gives to us so that we can respond through faith.
It is by grace through faith, not by faith through grace.
And it is not "just faith" and it is not "all you need is faith and belief . . ." You need faith in order to be saved.
It is not through faith alone or just by faith or all you need is faith. It is by grace through faith.
What am I trying to say?
Here are the words of an old favorite song:
Only trust Him, only trust Him
Only trust Him now
He will save you, He will save you
He will save you now
The song would be much deeper, clearer, and effective if we sang it without the "only": So it would go like this:
trust Him, trust Him
trust Him, trust Him
He will save you, He will save you
He will save you now
By speaking of "faith only" or "just faith' we actually minimize the importance and function of faith.
But it's faith that saves us though, isn't it? How does one "accept His (the Father's?) grace"? Isn't it just faith that saves us?
It is not really "faith that saves us" at all - it is God who saves us! We are saved through faith. To say that it is "just faith" that saves us misses the whole point that we can be saved only because of Jesus' life, death, and resurrection.
How does one "accept His grace"? That is not the way I would normally talk about salvation - I think that was Blue Ladybug's words.
Grace is definitely a key part of the saving process - it is by grace - Paul's words - Eph. 2:8
Ok, but it is also through faith, isn't it? How can someone be saved other than by having faith?
Salvation comes only through faith in Jesus Christ and his finished work!
There is salvation in none other: there is no other name by which any will be saved!
Romans, Chapter 10:
8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Pretty much sums it up
God saves people and then they become conscious of him and want him more than anything else. They cannot believe in any true sense until after God saves them. Your concern shows that he already saved you and now you need to be baptized and learn to live a holy life.
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EleventhHour
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Agree, when the thief on the cross stated “Remember me, when You enter into Your kingdom.”
There is the faith.
He was saved by faith alone... and it was expressed by the confession of his mouth.