Does someone need to ask God outloud "please save me" to be saved?

[EleventhHour]

NOPE.

All you need is faith and belief in Jesus, and accept His grace..

Amen!!

Yes we do accept His Grace and cease from self-effort... that is how we are saved!

 

[Chester]

God saves people and then they become conscious of him and want him more than anything else. They cannot believe in any true sense until after God saves them. Your concern shows that he already saved you and now you need to be baptized and learn to live a holy life.

"They cannot believe in any true sense until after God saves them" - I politely disagree with this statement. If this statement were true then to say "we are saved through faith" would not be true because faith would be after the fact of salvation already having occurred. But it is Paul (not I) who says in Ephesians 2:8 - "for by grace are you saved through faith"

 

[blue_ladybug]

God saves people and then they become conscious of him and want him more than anything else. They cannot believe in any true sense until after God saves them. Your concern shows that he already saved you and now you need to be baptized and learn to live a holy life.

Getting baptized doesn't save us. Getting dunked in water isn't what saves us.

 

[Dave-L]

Getting baptized doesn't save us. Getting dunked in water isn't what saves us.

God first saves us. Then we believe and repent, and then we get baptized and live a holy life.

 

[Dave-L]

"They cannot believe in any true sense until after God saves them" - I politely disagree with this statement. If this statement were true then to say "we are saved through faith" would not be true because faith would be after the fact of salvation already having occurred. But it is Paul (not I) who says in Ephesians 2:8 - "for by grace are you saved through faith"

Salvation makes you a believer. You cannot separate them.

 

[EleventhHour]

God first saves us. Then we believe and repent, and then we get baptized and live a holy life.

In the world of Calvinism

 

[Dave-L]

In the world of Calvinism

This is what the early Church believed. Calvin and Luther went back to those times and reintroduced it to the backslidden Catholic Church.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Baptism has NOTHING to do with us believing on Jesus and accepting His grace.

 

[Sackcloth-N-Ashes]

Does someone need to ask God outloud "please save me" to be saved? Just had maybe an hour plus long conversation in chat in a Christian chat room. My position might have been we are saved by faith, so no?

No.

 

[LeeLoving]

Agree, when the thief on the cross stated “Remember me, when You enter into Your kingdom.”

There is the faith.

He was saved by faith alone... and it was expressed by the confession of his mouth.

I might have just been asking the questions. (and maybe kind of trying to make a point too)

 

[Chester]

This is what the early Church believed. Calvin and Luther went back to those times and reintroduced it to the backslidden Catholic Church.

Must not be what Paul believed for he said (by inspiration) that we are saved "by grace through faith"

 

[Dave-L]

Must not be what Paul believed for he said (by inspiration) that we are saved "by grace through faith"

This is what Luther and Calvin taught. Grace means before you believe, and faith is the result of grace.

 

[Chester]

Baptism has NOTHING to do with us believing on Jesus and accepting His grace.

You are right that baptism does not save us! Absolutely and amen!

But to say it has nothing to do with us believing on Jesus? Really?????

 

[blue_ladybug]

You are right that baptism does not save us! Absolutely and amen!

But to say it has nothing to do with us believing on Jesus? Really?????

My point is, getting baptized doesn't lead us to have faith and belief on Jesus. We already have that when we accept Him as our Lord and Savior. Getting dunked in water does not and will not save us. In my understanding, getting baptized is purely symbolic, because Jesus himself got baptized.

 

[p_rehbein]

I agree. Water baptism is considered to be the 1st act of obedience AFTER one comes to Christ. We are water baptized because Christ told us to be.

Water baptism serves as a "WITNESS" to the Church and the World that we have become disciples of Jesus Christ. The "one baptism" spoken of in Scripture can NOT be seen with the human eye. That is why we are water baptized..........

 

[breno785au]

Lord, remember me in your kingdom!

Be not removed from the SIMPLICITY found in CHRIST!

Oh yeah, we so need to remember this. Some people love to complicate things so they can sound superior and knowledgeable. But it's to their own hurt.

I remember when I read this for the first time, it still amazes me:

They replied, “We want to perform God’s works, too. What should we do?” Jesus told them, “This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent.”
John 6:28‭-‬29

 

[Yahshua]

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Agreed. If someone's drowning (in sin) I would hope they'd shout as loudly as they can to be saved, like Peter did to the Messiah, and not stay silent until it's too late.

Romans 10:12-13
12 For there is no difference between Jew and Greek: The same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who call on Him,

13 Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

 

[dcontroversal]

Oh yeah, we so need to remember this. Some people love to complicate things so they can sound superior and knowledgeable. But it's to their own hurt.

I remember when I read this for the first time, it still amazes me:

They replied, “We want to perform God’s works, too. What should we do?” Jesus told them, “This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent.”
John 6:28‭-‬29

Amen my Aussie brother.......and for sure, men, religion and even churches over complicate many simple truths of the bible.......

It pleased God, by the foolishness of preaching to save them that BELIEVE!