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EleventhHour
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NOPE.
All you need is faith and belief in Jesus, and accept His grace..
Amen!!
Yes we do accept His Grace and cease from self-effort... that is how we are saved!
NOPE.
All you need is faith and belief in Jesus, and accept His grace..
God saves people and then they become conscious of him and want him more than anything else. They cannot believe in any true sense until after God saves them. Your concern shows that he already saved you and now you need to be baptized and learn to live a holy life.
God saves people and then they become conscious of him and want him more than anything else. They cannot believe in any true sense until after God saves them. Your concern shows that he already saved you and now you need to be baptized and learn to live a holy life.
God first saves us. Then we believe and repent, and then we get baptized and live a holy life.Getting baptized doesn't save us. Getting dunked in water isn't what saves us.
Salvation makes you a believer. You cannot separate them."They cannot believe in any true sense until after God saves them" - I politely disagree with this statement. If this statement were true then to say "we are saved through faith" would not be true because faith would be after the fact of salvation already having occurred. But it is Paul (not I) who says in Ephesians 2:8 - "for by grace are you saved through faith"
God first saves us. Then we believe and repent, and then we get baptized and live a holy life.
This is what the early Church believed. Calvin and Luther went back to those times and reintroduced it to the backslidden Catholic Church.In the world of Calvinism![]()
No.Does someone need to ask God outloud "please save me" to be saved? Just had maybe an hour plus long conversation in chat in a Christian chat room. My position might have been we are saved by faith, so no?
Agree, when the thief on the cross stated “Remember me, when You enter into Your kingdom.”
There is the faith.
He was saved by faith alone... and it was expressed by the confession of his mouth.
This is what the early Church believed. Calvin and Luther went back to those times and reintroduced it to the backslidden Catholic Church.
This is what Luther and Calvin taught. Grace means before you believe, and faith is the result of grace.Must not be what Paul believed for he said (by inspiration) that we are saved "by grace through faith"
Baptism has NOTHING to do with us believing on Jesus and accepting His grace.
You are right that baptism does not save us! Absolutely and amen!
But to say it has nothing to do with us believing on Jesus? Really?????![]()
Lord, remember me in your kingdom!
Be not removed from the SIMPLICITY found in CHRIST!
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Oh yeah, we so need to remember this. Some people love to complicate things so they can sound superior and knowledgeable. But it's to their own hurt.
I remember when I read this for the first time, it still amazes me:
They replied, “We want to perform God’s works, too. What should we do?” Jesus told them, “This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent.”
John 6:28-29