The Reason You are Told that God No Longer Speaks.

[KelbyofGod]

If you add to scripture saying you imaginations or any other source is God speaking you are sinning. Because it says scripture thoroughly furnishes us. If faith comes by hearing the word, how can we say it comes from any other source?

For one, it says scripture is there so that we may be throughly furnished, which could mean scripture tells us how to be furnished if we follow its instructions.

Nevertheless, being furnished sounds good. The scripture also says that "He that speaketh in an unknown tongue EDIFIES himself. Being edified also sounds good.

So.... which ought we to do... Be furnished? Be Edified? Or both?

I'm going with both.

My point is that reading scripture is good and we ought to do that. But we also ought to do the other things the scriptures support.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[Blain]

If you add to scripture saying you imaginations or any other source is God speaking you are sinning. Because it says scripture thoroughly furnishes us. If faith comes by hearing the word, how can we say it comes from any other source?

So then if a person recieves a prophetic dream from God are they then sinning? Or say that God teaches them something from something as simple as ant hill are they then sinning? Or perhaps a better example say that I learned a valuable lesson from what someone says in this very forum not quoting but just giving a wise and insightful post am I then sinning?

I am not in any way against hearing his voice through scripture but to say that it is only from scripture alone limits your ability to hear his voice and trust me he uses many things

 

[Dave-L]

So then if a person recieves a prophetic dream from God are they then sinning? Or say that God teaches them something from something as simple as ant hill are they then sinning? Or perhaps a better example say that I learned a valuable lesson from what someone says in this very forum not quoting but just giving a wise and insightful post am I then sinning?

I am not in any way against hearing his voice through scripture but to say that it is only from scripture alone limits your ability to hear his voice and trust me he uses many things

What makes you thin people receive "prophetic dreams" if scripture thoroughly furnishes us?

 

[Dave-L]

For one, it says scripture is there so that we may be throughly furnished, which could mean scripture tells us how to be furnished if we follow its instructions.

Nevertheless, being furnished sounds good. The scripture also says that "He that speaketh in an unknown tongue EDIFIES himself. Being edified also sounds good.

So.... which ought we to do... Be furnished? Be Edified? Or both?

I'm going with both.

My point is that reading scripture is good and we ought to do that. But we also ought to do the other things the scriptures support.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

What do they support if the thoroughly furnish us?

 

[JaumeJ]

According to the mind of flesh the following should be censored...……...

1Co 14:26 What is it then, brethren? When ye come together, each one hath a psalm, hath a teaching, hath a revelation, hath a tongue, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
1Co 14:27 If any man speaketh in a tongue, let it be by two, or at the most three, and that in turn; and let one interpret:

It seems today when people come together, they bring nothing at all.

 

[Hungry]

According to the mind of flesh the following should be censored...……...

1Co 14:26 What is it then, brethren? When ye come together, each one hath a psalm, hath a teaching, hath a revelation, hath a tongue, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
1Co 14:27 If any man speaketh in a tongue, let it be by two, or at the most three, and that in turn; and let one interpret:

It seems today when people come together, they bring nothing at all.

That’s not entirely true. Everyone brings an opinion.

 

[Hungry]

How shall they hear except they be sent? Blessed are the feet of those who preach the gospel. Romans 10:14-15

For the cause of Christ
Roger

That’s a misquote.

 

[Hungry]

It is my faith based belief and experience that God has spoken in one manner or another to all of us who believe Jesus/Yeshua.
I would appreciate if the family here would confess if they believe God has spoken to them. Just to clear the air.
I believe He has spoken to all who believe in on manner or another.
I believe He has spoken to me. At 76 years, I do not say we have an on-going conversation, but when it has suited Him He has spoken to me, in words, in dreams and in a vision also.\
Please, let all know that our Father has not changed, nor will He ever.

The Lord speaks more like downloading information into my brain. Very often in parables and helps me look at situations from different perspectives. Twice in my life, both during serious arguments with my wife, He used electronics miraculously to get His message through. Once He froze the computer while my wife just finishing a major assignment for her degree. She thought all was lost. After trying everything else she reset the computer. The screensaver had been changed. It was an image of our four young children at Easter. My wife and I were both there to see it and it ended our argument. She realized that maybe working full time trying to finish her BSN while raising a big family was lacking proper priority, and putting too much stress on me. The other time my phone beeped like a notification. I looked at it and on my screen was a pic of my wife and I in Punta Cana. Nobody sent it to me. I was the only one with the picture. It just popped up from my photos then disappeared. At the time I was looking for places thinking we getting divorced. Again it was a pivotal time and we stayed together.

 

[Grandpa]

There were a lot of arguments here on whether Salvation could be lost or not when I was fairly new to this site.

I was 99% sure that Salvation could not be lost because I knew Salvation did not come from me in the first place.

But there were a lot of arguments that seemed like they made sense showing that Salvation COULD be lost.


So I decided to settle the issue once and for all. I prayed to the Lord and asked "Can we lose our salvation?" The Lord didn't answer the first time. Or the second time. Finally, after about a month, the Lord spoke to me and said "I will never leave you or forsake you".

The Lord made it personal to me and didn't really answer whether other people could lose their Salvation. But I extrapolated anyway and figured what the Lord will do for me He will do for all of His People.


I immediately looked up in scripture where the Lord said I will never leave you or forsake you. And I found it. In two different places.


That still didn't end the arguments over whether people think they can lose Salvation or not. They just argued over whether that phrase applied or even if I was just making it up. Because what the Lord said just reinforced what I already 99% believed anyway.


I suppose this won't end the argument over whether we can hear the Lord speak or not, either.

 

[notuptome]

Roger,

I'm calling you out on this one.

You don't strike me as someone who is mentally challenged, so I think it reasonable to expect you to give clear explanations of your statements (considering you volunteer them) if ever I ask for clarification. You readily reply, yet your replies don't seem to answer the questions asked, or provide a foundation for your claims. To me that comes across as a lack of integrity.

I've seen you post friendly and helpful replies but I've also seen you post in a passive-aggressive style. You are invited to provide friendly and helpful replies, and to ask for clarifications, or even ask why I would say something so totally against your current beliefs...and I will do my best to answer because those types of comments are born in love. But please refrain form the passive-aggressive postings because passive-aggressive postings (even of scripture) are born in hatred and cowardice. Thanks.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

Let's think about this. I post to a passage of scripture and you want to call me out over it?

You took the passage about the blind leading the blind out of context to create a pretext. You then endeavored to create a scenario in which you could justify said pretext. Scripture forces you back to reexamine the context of the passage.

Since you have concluded all are born by natural birth unsaved and blind. While true God does not expect us to continue in that state. The entrance of Gods word is light. The nation of Israel was elect to take the word of God to all the heathen nations round about them.

The remarks Jesus made regarding the blind leading the blind was aimed to the religious leaders of the day not leading the laity into the light of Gods word but away from it. The same today with folks who are religious and not willing to teach the truth.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[notuptome]

That’s a misquote.

At worst a paraphrase but not a misquote. I posted the passage reference so you could look it up and read it for yourself. If you are offended then go ahead and make your case.

Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Ps 119:130 The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[JaumeJ]

The Lord speaks more like downloading information into my brain. Very often in parables and helps me look at situations from different perspectives. Twice in my life, both during serious arguments with my wife, He used electronics miraculously to get His message through. Once He froze the computer while my wife just finishing a major assignment for her degree. She thought all was lost. After trying everything else she reset the computer. The screensaver had been changed. It was an image of our four young children at Easter. My wife and I were both there to see it and it ended our argument. She realized that maybe working full time trying to finish her BSN while raising a big family was lacking proper priority, and putting too much stress on me. The other time my phone beeped like a notification. I looked at it and on my screen was a pic of my wife and I in Punta Cana. Nobody sent it to me. I was the only one with the picture. It just popped up from my photos then disappeared. At the time I was looking for places thinking we getting divorced. Again it was a pivotal time and we stayed together.

Our Father will never leave us without Help. Yours here is just one example. Do not concern yourself if non/believers think you a bit daft, they called the Savior worse. Rejoice, for your are cared for and always will be.

 

[JaumeJ]

That’s not entirely true. Everyone brings an opinion.

Everyone with an opinion concerning the teachings from our Father should first take it to Him, otherwise it will remain just an opinion forever.

 

[Hungry]

How shall they hear except they be sent? Blessed are the feet of those who preach the gospel. Romans 10:14-15

For the cause of Christ
Roger

It’s not hear, it’s preach.

 

[notuptome]

It’s not hear, it’s preach.

I posted the passage. If you want to quibble over hear or preach then enjoy.

Hear in 14 is preach in 15 problem solved.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Hungry]

I posted the passage. If you want to quibble over hear or preach then enjoy.

Hear in 14 is preach in 15 problem solved.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

You took one word out of 14 and put it into 15. Since the thread is about hearing, that is a significant mislead. If you are going to quote scripture then quote it. That’s all I’m saying.

 

[Dino246]

If you add to scripture saying you imaginations or any other source is God speaking you are sinning. Because it says scripture thoroughly furnishes us. If faith comes by hearing the word, how can we say it comes from any other source?

Do you see the inherent contradiction in your statement? You claim that Scripture "thoroughly furnishes us" which is an excerpt from a passage, not the entire passage, so you're taking it out of context and massaging the meaning to fit your position. You also claim that if you add to Scripture you are sinning, but that is not in that passage, so you are adding to Scripture!

Here's your mistake: you believe that every time God speaks, He intends it to be added to Scripture. That's not in Scripture! Further, it is easy to demonstrate that is not the case, as I have done so, and to which you have not responded.

It is possible that when Paul wrote his second letter to Timothy, several books that we now consider "Scripture" had not yet been written. Only if we are absolutely certain that it was the last book penned could your position be sound. We aren't.

Scripture is for everyone. It is God's truth for everyone, and it does not contain anything that is only for one person. God certainly can speak directly to an individual through Scripture (He's done that for me). He can also speak to individuals outside of Scripture, and such messages are not for everyone, nor are they in any way "Scripture". The key is that when He speaks, He will not contradict Scripture.

 

[KelbyofGod]

What makes you thin[k] people receive "prophetic dreams" if scripture thoroughly furnishes us?

Probably because the scripture furnishes us with a promise to provide prophetic dreams (if we'd like to call them that) by his spirit, as it is written in Acts 2:17:

"And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:"

One of the ways the scriptures furnish us is with descriptions of some of the things available for us to be furnished with....such as dreams, prophecy, healings, miracles, righteousness, good works, speaking in tongues, etc.

How many of these are you willing and hopeful to be furnished with?

Myself, I hope to be furnished with them all.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[KelbyofGod]

According to the mind of flesh the following should be censored...……...

1Co 14:26 What is it then, brethren? When ye come together, each one hath a psalm, hath a teaching, hath a revelation, hath a tongue, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
1Co 14:27 If any man speaketh in a tongue, let it be by two, or at the most three, and that in turn; and let one interpret:

It seems today when people come together, they bring nothing at all.

It took a second reading for me to understand your first line but now I get it. Paraphrased: The FLESHLY mind thinks we should throw out those verses, but the spiritual mind knows we should keep and DO them. Correct?

And thank you for posting.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[Dave-L]

Probably because the scripture furnishes us with a promise to provide prophetic dreams (if we'd like to call them that) by his spirit, as it is written in Acts 2:17:

"And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:"

One of the ways the scriptures furnish us is with descriptions of some of the things available for us to be furnished with....such as dreams, prophecy, healings, miracles, righteousness, good works, speaking in tongues, etc.

How many of these are you willing and hopeful to be furnished with?

Myself, I hope to be furnished with them all.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

This was the case until Scripture became complete. But if it thoroughly furnishes us, it proves these hallucinations are false.