Behold, it was very good.

[garee]

I had nothing to do with creating the Hebrew language, God did. I am just reporting. Tell God about your objections.

God creates every language. He gives us His understanding in the Hebrew as well as the Greek world.

At Pentecost The Holy Spirit mocked the Hebrew language as it seems that some where holding onto following after secret codes that are not heard of in the scriptures, as oral traditions of men. No prompting in the bible informing us without the Hebrew letters of the alphabet Christ spoke not.

I would think without parables using words Christ spoke not assigning meaning to words .Not individual letters .

In that way in the beginning was the Word. Not a letter of the Hebrew alphabet. Hebrew has nothing to do with the word of God. God is not a man . Not some secret code that does not pan out when using parables. (two teaching masters)

For instance the whole period of time when there were Kings in Israel (abomination of desolation). That period of time was used as a parable according to words. . . not separate letters of the Hebrew alphabet. But again using the signified tongue of God (parables.)

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. Hebrews 9:8-

 

[garee]

This is a new thought to me. Are you certain that the meaning behind the letters and pictures of early Hebrew are only from men and not God? The early picture of faith as a nail being pounded in a wall has fed my soul, as faith is depending on something solid as an example. I think it is so important to separate God's word and man's word.

A good example found in the parable of "two masters" in Luke 14

No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Luke 14:13

A picture of mankind trying to use two different teaching masters. The oral traditions of men and the word of God.

In the parables where the idea of necromancy could serve as the master (send Lazarus) . Twice the holy Spirit emphases "there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence".

Twice he reveals the one teaching Master all things written in the law and the prophets (sola scriptura) And yet they refuse to hear.

In effect.. . . as we are informed... If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead or someone saw a cave drawing .

As always we can plant the incorruptible seed and water it with the doctrines of God that fall from heaven like rain . He can cause the growth by giving us his understanding. Not what the eyes see the temporal .

But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luke 16: 25-31


2 Corinthians 5: (For we walk by faith, not by sight

 

[JaumeJ]

When I first read the Hebrew writings, I was somewhat bemused in reading Ezra and the first half of Daniel for they are both written in Aramaic..

This does not say one language from our Father. It seems Abrahams-s kinfolk left behind in Padan Aram most likely spoke the then spoken Hebrew.

It was a blessing for me and is to read Hebrew but by no means is there a secret code for only a few in the significance of the letters of the alefbet, for they do form words, given to Moses. Those coded messages in the characters are only what are given them by men.

Children know when their Father is speaking< intellectuals strain to know, and seem to know the least.

 

[Blik]

A good example found in the parable of "two masters" in Luke 14

No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Luke 14:13

A picture of mankind trying to use two different teaching masters. The oral traditions of men and the word of God.

In the parables where the idea of necromancy could serve as the master (send Lazarus) . Twice the holy Spirit emphases "there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence".

Twice he reveals the one teaching Master all things written in the law and the prophets (sola scriptura) And yet they refuse to hear.

In effect.. . . as we are informed... If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead or someone saw a cave drawing .

As always we can plant the incorruptible seed and water it with the doctrines of God that fall from heaven like rain . He can cause the growth by giving us his understanding. Not what the eyes see the temporal .

But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luke 16: 25-31


2 Corinthians 5: (For we walk by faith, not by sight

You have done quite the study. But the simple fact is, when you get to the bottom line, the word of the Lord was most often translated in Hebrew and does it best. As an example, the translation of the word Torah as law does not accurately express the Hebrew word Torah. If you refuse to learn the meaning of this Hebrew word you are refusing to learn of God's word.

 

[garee]

You have done quite the study. But the simple fact is, when you get to the bottom line, the word of the Lord was most often translated in Hebrew and does it best. As an example, the translation of the word Torah as law does not accurately express the Hebrew word Torah. If you refuse to learn the meaning of this Hebrew word you are refusing to learn of God's word.

 

[garee]

HI Blik
How would using this letter code have a different understanding? How would it be different using the word law/ Torah ?

What I am I refusing to learn about the law ?

 

[Blik]

HI Blik
How would using this letter code have a different understanding? How would it be different using the word law/ Torah ?

What I am I refusing to learn about the law ?

If you will use Strong's it will tell you. It is really too involved a study to be explained here. It would take many words in other languages to express what God expressed with the word Torah that is translated with our English word law.

It has to do with guidance, as counseling from the sages, from a parent, from the Lord. It has to do with laws of the universe. It never relates to a judge in a court judging and sentencing to punishment with no love or caring.

 

[FlyingDove]

In the Genesis 1 account of creation. God gives the: "IT WAS GOOD" shout-out TWICE to day 3.

Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

Gen 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Other day 3 shout-outs:
Gen 22:4 Then on the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off

Ex 19:11 Be ready against the third day: for the 3rd day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon Mt Sinai

Ex 19:15 He said to the people, Be ready against the 3rd day

Ex 19:16 It came to pass on the 3rd day in the morning, that there were thunders & lightnings, a thick cloud upon the mount & the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled

Hos 6:2 After 2 days will he revive us: in the 3rd day he will raise us up & we shall live in his sight

Mat 17:23 Jesus said; they shall kill him & the 3rd day he shall be raised again

Mat 20:19 Jesus said; shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, to scourge & to crucify him: and the 3rd day he shall rise again

Mk 9:31 Jesus taught, the Son of man is delivered into the hands of men & they shall kill him; after that he is killed, he shall rise the 3rd day

Mk 10:34 Jesus said; they shall mock him, shall scourge him, shall spit upon him & shall kill him: on the 3rd day he shall rise again

Lk 9:22 Jesus saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, be rejected of the elders, chief priests, scribes, and be slain & raised the 3rd day

Lk 18:33 They shall scourge & put him to death: the 3rd day he shall rise again


Day 3: a "GOOD DAY" indeed.

 

[JohnR7]

It is unwise to insist anyone need know another language in order to understand the Word as given by Yahweh.

Kindergarten is optional. You can start in the first grade without ever going to Kindergarten, but you are better prepared if you go to Kindergarten and learn the alphabet and what the letters represent or mean. For example, I just did a study on the word BAT in relation to CoronaVirus. In the Bible the Hebrew word BAT is central to the word Womb. That is what this virus does, it takes up residence in the cell and forces the cell to become like a womb so it can reproduce itself. Otherwise they use the word factory. The Hebrew takes us back to the beginning. God knows the end from the beginning. This takes us back to before Jesus was born into the world. Back before the word became flesh.

 

[JohnR7]

If you refuse to learn the meaning of this Hebrew word you are refusing to learn of God's word.

It is not the word so much as the letters that make up the word. Each letter tells us a story.

 

[JohnR7]

God creates every language. He gives us His understanding in the Hebrew as well as the Greek world.

The Greek comes from the Hebrew after it was mixed up and confused at the Tower of Babylon. Even the Hebrew Language was mixed up and confused but the language the Bible was written in was a pre babylon Hebrew. The modern hebrew tries to help us to understand the ancient Hebrew.

 

[JohnR7]

I would think without parables using words Christ spoke not assigning meaning to words .Not individual letters .

God uses His own dictionary and man has his dictionary. During the 1,000 year reign of Christ people from Kindergarten on will understand the true meaning of words. Hebrew is very much for children: A is the head of an ox, B is a tent, C is a camel, D is a door. How could a child get mixed up and confused about that? Later on as the grow and mature then they learn how a camel can get your product to market and we learn about commerce and how to make money. Even today we use Jet airplanes. I have been to third world nations where there were very few passengers on a Jet, most of the cargo was fresh fruit and they needed a jet to get that fruit to market. It would have rotten and spoiled on a ship. Someday I want to travel a part of the silk highway. Even they say you can rent a motorcycle to travel that old road though all the old towns along the way.

 

[JohnR7]

Well, have you ever considered how Moses was able to write the written spoken word since there is no record that the Egyptians or any other civilization had the ability to communicate using the written spoken word (letters) until after the Exodus period. Even today a person cannot read the written spoken word unless they are taught by somebody who knows how to read.

I studied ancient history in high school over 50 years ago. Moses used papyrus. There was a library in Alexandria with all wisdom and all knowledge. Alexander sold it off to fund the cost of his military. Moses was the son of a Pharaoh so he had access to the best education at the time. Even Abraham had the best education that Ur had to offer. They use to use clay tablets so they had to translate that into the new writing system that they were using in Egypt at the time. The Kabbalah people say that the Hebrew language is the language God used to create the universe. Science says that chemistry is the language that God used.

 

[Blade]

The King James Version says: "whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world". This means their name is no longer written because their name has been blotted out. It is God's desire for all to be saved. "He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels." (Rev 3:5)

I saw the bottomless pit around 60 years ago and recently I began to realize that the Bottomless pit is a volcano. "When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss." (Rev 9:2) The sky is darkened with smoke from an active eruption.

"The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."

BOOKS
As I read it .. and there are more then one book. Even King David said "Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous." hmm I always wonder if the book of life is about THIS Life in this world. That would explain allot. And in Rev 13:8 I don't read this as the book of life because its written the book of life of the Lamb. That's not the book of life. No where in the word of God has anyone ever been blotted out of the lambs book. The ones that worship the beast are those that are not written in the lambs book.. book of life of the lamb. So to say they were blotted out.. is not written. Again its the Lambs book.

 

[JohnR7]

As I read it .. and there are more than one book.

The Books are written by the angels. They keep track of what we do in our life. So we can receive all of our rewards. God impressed upon me MANY times that He is a God of absolute, perfect and precise Justice. No one will be treated in a unfair or unjust way. The universe itself is very exact and very precise. I know of machinists that talk about how their machine is exact within billioneths. Of course metal expands and shrinks based on the temp and God does not want us lukewarm. "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." (Rev20:12) So we have the book of life written about here in Rev 20:12. Then we have the book that David talks about in Psalm 139:16 tells us that is written at our conception. Then there are books written during our life so that we are judged by what was written and what we did in our life.

In Matthew 6:20 Jesus tells us to: "store up for yourselves treasures in heaven", I think there are people alive that are well known in Heaven because they store up treasures for themselves. So their family and friends can go to their mansion and visit there to see what the latest additions are. The treaasures we are storing up for ourselves.

The Lamb's book of life has to do with the New Jerusalem: "And into the city will be brought the glory and honor of the nations. But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who practices an abomination or a lie, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life." (Rev 21:26,27)The New Jerusalem is BIG: 1500 by 1500 by 1500 miles. That is the size of the entire Arab Continental Plate. About half the size of the United States. I think I will have a condo or something there so when I go to visit then I will have a place to stay that is my own space. Just like I believe that my friends will have a room in my mansion that will be their own room that they can stay in when they come to visit with me.

 

[JohnR7]

This does not say one language from our Father.

Nothing was added to what God gave to Moses. He had ALL of God's plan of salvation. ONLY Jesus could add to what Moses received. So we have the Torah and we have the Red Letters in the New Testament that Jesus gives us. Everything else is commentary. People helping us to understand what we received from Moses and the Red Letters we receive from Jesus. David is very special though because of his love for God as we are told He was a man after the Heart of God. Still when we read in Psalm 90 "For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night." This was written by Moses or a scribe recorded it for Moses. We know that Moses did not talk for himself but he allowed his brother Aaron to talk for him.

Jesus makes it clear that we are not to add to what Moses give us. It is enough to do with Moses tells us to do. Then we have people that want to take away from Moses and that is not good. "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers." (Matthew 23:4)

 

[garee]

God uses His own dictionary and man has his dictionary. During the 1,000 year reign of Christ people from Kindergarten on will understand the true meaning of words. Hebrew is very much for children: A is the head of an ox, B is a tent, C is a camel, D is a door. How could a child get mixed up and confused about that? Later on as the grow and mature then they learn how a camel can get your product to market and we learn about commerce and how to make money. Even today we use Jet airplanes. I have been to third world nations where there were very few passengers on a Jet, most of the cargo was fresh fruit and they needed a jet to get that fruit to market. It would have rotten and spoiled on a ship. Someday I want to travel a part of the silk highway. Even they say you can rent a motorcycle to travel that old road though all the old towns along the way.

We are in the thousand year reign . Last days. Satan has fallen from his previous position. The deceiver of all the nations of the world to include the Jew . Our father has exposed him as the false god of all nations as he always was. A joy for the nations. . terrible trouble for a fleshly Jew that carries on even today .Hoping their corrupted flesh is less corrupted than that of a gentile.

He has bound the father of lies in a bottomless place to keep him from continuing to deceive all the nations in that way.

God is not a man on the last day he will simply roll up the corrupted creation cast it into the fire and bring forth the glorious new creation . Again we are in the last day that end on the very last .No need to know when. that for those who seek after signs and wonders rather than prophecy.

Called the last days Because we are not of the number neither counting days or people but rather those who walk by faith, the eternal vision .

Those whose literalize the signified understanding miss out on the gospel understanding. Like in the "parable" below . They simply ignore the introduction of the book of revelation . Chapter 1 verse 1 revealing the kind of language in parables as signified using the thing seen to give us his unseen understanding.

Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

 

[JaumeJ]

Intellectualism excludes many, especially children of the Most High. Faith is not in what a fleshy mind is able to figure: DO NOT DESTROY YOURSELF WITH WHAT IS CALLED KNOWLEDGE.

 

[JohnR7]

We are in the thousand year reign .

Jesus said: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End." (Rev 22:13) At Calvary He said: "It is finished". (John 19:30) The church age did not begin until the First Pentecost in what I believe was the year 29 AD. So we have around 9 years before the church age can end and the kingdom age begin when the Sons (Daughters) of God shall be manifest. Some people believe there is a 7 year period of time. So that would be the year 2036. I use these dates mostly because NASA & Apophis.

 

[JohnR7]

He has bound the father of lies in a bottomless place to keep him from continuing to deceive all the nations in that way.

I have seen the bottomless pit so I know that it is a volcano. We are told: "When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss." (Rev 9:2) So this event in 9:2 will be marked by a volcanic eruption. This sort of thing is common so the world will not pay that much attention to what is going on.