1 Peter 3:19-20 and 1 Peter 4:6 different interpretations.

[garee]

You said it will fall upon ”this generation” and that’s what happened, it fell upon them in that generation. See below, everything is about Jerusalem and the generation alive at that time.

Mat 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Mat 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Mat 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

It would appear this generation is the generation of faith. (believers) All in Christ beginning with Abel eternal life.

Not the evil generation no faith .All in Adam die.

Deuteronomy 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

 

[miknik5]

Further sir, you should continue on to Matthew 24. Do you affirm that this is talking about the time of tribulation...
Because sir, HE states...this generation will not pass until all has been accomplished...

It can´t pass...
It can´t pass until the last who belongs to CHRIST is gathered in...
Then will the end come...when HE will put the last of HIS enemies under HIS feet

 

[Dino246]

It would appear this generation is the generation of faith. (believers) All in Christ beginning with Abel eternal life.

Not the evil generation no faith .All in Adam die.

Deuteronomy 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

Clearly you didn't pay any attention to the passage quoted. It looks like you just grabbed the word "generation" and went off in search of anything in Scripture using that term. That isn't the correct way to handly Scripture. Read the quoted passsage again and explain why "all these things" would fall on "this generation" if "this generation is the generation of faith".

 

[Dino246]

If a person literalizes the signified understanding in parables the mystery is lost and new innovations come in.

Whereas if someone turns literal text into parables, all manner of strange innovations come in.

 

[KJV1611]

This generation is the generation who benefitted by HIS coming into the world...and it is also this generation who will be judged more harshly...for they had the benefit of hearing the GOSPEL, and yet some continue in disbelief.

Which is why it is written, the men of Ninevah will stand in the judgment and condemn...THIS GENERATION...for they listened to the words of Jonah, now ONE GREATER THAN JONAH has come...

The saints in Nineveh were raised with Christ and went to heaven with him. They literal came out of the grave and stood in judgement against them..... literally.

Israel was judged by the saints of Nineveh because Israel witnessed their resurrection from the dead and still would not repent and follow God after seeing all of that.

 

[just_truth]

"Preach" simply means to make an announcement or proclaim something. There's no difference in meaning.

Diakonos so what that it means "made proclamation", is that preaching the Gospel for their salvation or about their judgment impending to hell?

 

[Diakonos]

Diakonos so what that it means "made proclamation", is that preaching the Gospel for their salvation or about their judgment impending to hell?

Both:
To the souls inhabiting the paradise side of Hades, Jesus' proclamation was their salvation.
To the souls inhabiting the torment side of Hades, Jesus' proclamation was their condemnation.

 

[just_truth]

Both:
To the souls inhabiting the paradise side of Hades, Jesus' proclamation was their salvation.
To the souls inhabiting the torment side of Hades, Jesus' proclamation was their condemnation.

By then the made proclamation is executed to spirits in prison, which is of the two sides?

 

[Diakonos]

By then the made proclamation is executed to spirits in prison, which is of the two sides?

The former "those who are dead" is referenced in 1 Peter 4:6 ("though they are judged in the flesh as men, they live in the spirit")
The latter "the spirits now in prison" is referenced in 1 Peter 3:18 ("those who were disobedient")

Their fate was made known by the proclamation of Jesus. David spoke of this 1000 years in advance:
"You will not abandon my soul to Sheol;
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay"
(Psalm 16:10)

 

[just_truth]

The former "those who are dead" is referenced in 1 Peter 4:6 ("though they are judged in the flesh as men, they live in the spirit")
The latter "the spirits now in prison" is referenced in 1 Peter 3:18 ("those who were disobedient")

Their fate was made known by the proclamation of Jesus. David spoke of this 1000 years in advance:
"You will not abandon my soul to Sheol;
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay"
(Psalm 16:10)

So the latter "the spirits now in prison" is referenced in 1 Peter 3:18 ("those who were disobedient"), then who were these captives brought by Christ in heaven in Ephesians 4:8 ?

 

[Diakonos]

who were these captives brought by Christ in heaven in Ephesians 4:8 ?

They are the same people who are referenced in 1 Peter 4:6. They are the saints who died before the cross. Their sins weren't paid for yet, so they waited in the paradise side of Sheol (Hades) for the Messiah to come rescue them from their current state.

When someone conquered another people group, the survivors of war would become captives of the victor. In this case, Christ conquered Death and took the captives of Death as His own captives. They were captives of Death because Death had a hold on them. When Jesus died on the cross, He reversed what Adam did in the garden, He became the highest bidder of their soul, for there is nothing more valuable than His blood. Redemption's work was complete, and it was time for the Redeemed to come home.

 

[just_truth]

They are the same people who are referenced in 1 Peter 4:6. They are the saints who died before the cross. Their sins weren't paid for yet, so they waited in the paradise side of Sheol (Hades) for the Messiah to come rescue them from their current state.

When someone conquered another people group, the survivors of war would become captives of the victor. In this case, Christ conquered Death and took the captives of Death as His own captives. They were captives of Death because Death had a hold on them. When Jesus died on the cross, He reversed what Adam did in the garden, He became the highest bidder of their soul, for there is nothing more valuable than His blood. Redemption's work was complete, and it was time for the Redeemed to come home.

But see this verse is contrary to what you say... Psalm 68:18"Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the Lord God might dwell among them."

Other verse referring to spirits in prison, it is not referring what you say took the captives of Death as His own captives, see this...

• as prisoners are gathered in the pit, Isa. 24:22.
• thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth, Isa. 49:9
• opening of the prison to them that are bound, Isa. 61:1
• preach deliverance to the captives, Luke 4:18.
• dead shall hear … the Son, John 5:25.
• preached unto the spirits in prison, 1 Pet. 3:19.
• gospel preached also to them that are dead, 1 Pet. 4:6.

 

[just_truth]

But see this verse is contrary to what you say... Psalm 68:18"Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the Lord God might dwell among them."

• as prisoners are gathered in the pit, Isa. 24:22.
• thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth, Isa. 49:9 (1 Ne. 21:9).
• opening of the prison to them that are bound, Isa. 61:1 (D&C 138:42).
• preach deliverance to the captives, Luke 4:18.
• dead shall hear … the Son, John 5:25.
• preached unto the spirits in prison, 1 Pet. 3:19.
• gospel preached also to them that are dead, 1 Pet. 4:6.

But see this verse is contrary to what you say... Psalm 68:18"Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the Lord God might dwell among them."

Who are this rebellious? What I see, these are the fallen angels that came in flesh. Are all fallen angels came in the flesh? Let us see further...

 

[JamOn]

On the 1 Peter 4:6, that appears to be speaking of the ones who witness during the preaching of the kingdom is near.

1 Peter 4:2

 

[Diakonos]

yea, for the rebellious also

What does this have to do with Ephesians 4:8?

 

[just_truth]

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"I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.' -John 10:16

 

[just_truth]

What does this have to do with Ephesians 4:8?

John 10:16

 

[Diakonos]

"I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.' -John 10:16

Right, Gentiles are the other sheep.

But what does "yea, for the rebellious also" have to do with Ephesians 4:8?

 

[just_truth]

Did the

Right, Gentiles are the other sheep.

But what does "yea, for the rebellious also" have to do with Ephesians 4:8?

Did the group of Gentiles had heard Jesus preached also to them during His earthly life? Show me a verse if there's any?

 

[Diakonos]

Did the
Did the group of Gentiles had heard Jesus preached also to them during His earthly life? Show me a verse if there's any?

I have dyslexia. Could you please retype post #139? I don't know what your asking. There seems to be a word or 2 missing between "Gentiles" and "heard"