What I have said is that we must have the Spirit, in every aspect of our lives, including when we seek to understand scripture. What I have said is that we believe scripture, because it is a witness to Jesus Christ. But we believe in the One being witnessed to, Jesus Himself. I have said that the knowledge of scripture is at best a beginning, that we should press on towards the mark of the high calling of God that is in Christ Jesus. And that this mark is not to become bible scholars, but rather to become conformed into the image of Jesus Christ.
what you don't get is that the Holy Spirit is the GIFT, the earnest, the downpayment, the comforter that is given PERMANENTLY to everyone who hears and believes. ALL. not just special ones.
your skewed beliefs have the Holy Spirit being something that comes and goes or must be chased down or pleaded for daily.
did the Holy Spirit die on the Cross vw?
that's so unbiblical i don't even know what to say.
knowledge of scriptures is AT BEST A BEGINNING? no real man of God has EVER said such a thing. EVER. no one who truly knows God has EVER made such an outlandish statement.
the Scriptures have enough to save a simple child....and enough to keep the hungriest heart and strongest intellect partaking for a lifetime and never reach this MOUNTAINTOP you claim you've reached.
so, we are to start off with the Scriptures (as babes apparently), then move past that, pressing on to the "high calling"....and it turns out for you that high calling was PROPHET.
and we know these new prophets are to correct and guide the teachers and elders. NO. NOT TRUE.
i'd rather press on to be a bible scholar than pretend to be a prophet. even my miniscule knowledge of the Word and of My God reveals there ARE NO PROPHETS TODAY.
that's the tragic irony of all this. you never learned what you claim you did at all from Jesus Christ. thi is your imagination and it is delusion vw.
And I have said that we should seek with all that we are to develop a personal relationship with God, since this is the reason He sent Jesus into the world. And as scripture says, Jesus always lives to intercede for those who are drawing near to God through Him, and for this reason He is able to save them forever.
God sent Jesus into the world to save sinners.
the Holy Spirit is the gift given to all who beleive.
there's your false doctrine again: Jesus intercedes for those who are "drawing near", and for THAT reason He is able to save them forever?
because they are DRAWING NEAR? that's WHY He is able to save them?
that is so contrary to the truth. you think you get saved because you are WORKING to draw near? because you are drawing near of your own accord? that's WHY Jesus is able to save you? because you are being so GOOD?
no one (including you) has a desire to "draw near" to God without Him having made it possible.
since Pentecost that Mercy and Grace and the drawing of men to Jesus is done by the preaching of the Word. when men believe they RECEIVE THE HOLY GHOST...whether you modern prophets like it or not.
New International Version (©1984)
It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.
New Living Translation (©2007)
So it is God who decides to show mercy. We can neither choose it nor work for it.
English Standard Version (©2001)
So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy.
International Standard Version (©2008)
Therefore, God's choice does not depend on a person's will or effort, but on God himself, who shows mercy.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Therefore, God's choice does not depend on a person's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.
King James Bible
So then [it is] not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
American King James Version
So then it is not of him that wills, nor of him that runs, but of God that shows mercy.
American Standard Version
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that hath mercy.
Bible in Basic English
So then, it is not by the desire or by the attempt of man, but by the mercy of God.
Douay-Rheims Bible
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Darby Bible Translation
So then it is not of him that wills, nor of him that runs, but of God that shews mercy.
English Revised Version
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that hath mercy.
Webster's Bible Translation
So then, it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy.
Weymouth New Testament
And from this we learn that everything is dependent not on man's will or endeavour, but upon God who has mercy. For the Scripture said to Pharaoh,
World English Bible
So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who has mercy.
Young's Literal Translation
so, then -- not of him who is willing, nor of him who is running, but of God who is doing kindness:
So, you have not heard my words, only what religion has shaded your mind to hear.
In Christ
i have heard your words these last days.
as i said, i'm heartbroken.