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zone

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Where does the door lead? To a church that does not even love Him enough to allow His Spirit to be their guide and comfort and teacher? Wrong door.

And did not Jesus say what eternal life is? "And this is eternal life, that they know Thee, the only true God, and the Son whom Thou hast sent."

Turn your hatred, if you mist hate, towards those who do lie and do not practice the truth. Not every prophet is from the devil, although many of them are. And not e ery spirit is from he'll, for God Himself is spirit, and He sends His Spirit to us.

Best if you do not hate.
i'm afraid your threats and intimidation won't work on me vw (however sweetly they are delivered).

there are no prophets today.
i don't hate people: i despise lies.

"church that does not even love Him enough to allow His Spirit to be their guide and comfort and teacher": and we already know you claim Jesus told you to make this statement. you base it on your own desire to be special - a prophet. and a prophet needs something to prophesy...

but i tell you, as i did before: you are a false prophet.

you are outside the church because you hate her. and you are trying to make her believe Jesus hates her too.

it's you who is outside His church. not He.

JESUS IS THE DOOR. HE OPENS AND WE ENTER IN. but you do not understand that either: neither did the Pharisees He spoke it to.
 
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Yep, I hate her enough to tell her the truth, and be called all sorts of names for doing so.

Makes sense to me. All those virgins wanting to sleep with me, and all those fools wanting to give me all their money, just so I can tell them to commit suicide.

I hope things go well for you.
 

zone

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If the same Spirit resides in me that inspired the scriptures,
why do you have the Spirit residing in you yet the rest do not?
because they love God's Word ALSO.

and they do not need a prophet.

it seems reasonable that He could become God's voice for us. And it seems that this too is supported by scripture.
so why do not all of us have that voice within us?
why don't you believe people when they say they are alive in Christ?

What worries me about the opposite stance is that it is very close to the sin of the children of Israel when they were in the wilderness at the holy mountain, and God made a covenant with them. They said to Moses that it was okay for Moses to talk to them, but they did not want God to talk to them. God was very angry with those people.
why do you keep suggesting to christians that they have come to mount Sinai where there are thunderings and lightening and quaking and terror?

we have NOT come to that mountain.

Jesus Christ came meek and lowly, riding an an ass.

we don't need Moses. stop telling christians God is angry with them: you have no authority to do that: this is another spirit.

Jesus Christ RECONCILED us to God. by His stripes that ANGER was extinguished. The Lord is fully able to chastise and conform HIS OWN....he does not need a prophet.

truly saved christians are sanctified by the convicting and confroming work of the Holy Spirit - and He is in THEM ALL.
 

zone

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Yep, I hate her enough to tell her the truth, and be called all sorts of names for doing so.
you're not telling her the truth.
Jesus did not speak through you those words you wrote.

that is not The Lord.
 
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ALL OF GOD'S CHILDREN ARE SPECIAL!!!!! and deserve to be treated with respect. STOP twisting VW's words, He simply is stating his beliefs and experiences. Believe it, don't believe it but STOP attacking HIM for HIS beliefs. HE does NOT set himself above anyone else. EVEN if HE WAS A PROPHET HE listens to others and the BIBLE which says NO ONE IS ABOVE any of HIS BRETHREN. ONLY JESUS is the HEAD.

Now read and think about the definition of Bully and realize why it happens and not one pays attention. I've seen it enough in high schools to recognize it on line.

threat and intimation? how about "if you don't say your not a prophet your not really a child of God your not really special your nothing but a Pharisee and God will not let you into Heaven, you don't understand anything."

"Bullying is a form of abuse. It involves repeated acts over time attempting to create or enforce one person's (or group's) power over another person (or group) , thus an "imbalance of power".[1] The "imbalance of power" may be social power and/or physical power. The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a target. Bullying types of behavior are often rooted in a would-be bully's inability to empathize with those whom he or she would target.
Bullying consists of three basic types of abuse – emotional, verbal and physical. It typically involves subtle methods of coercion such as intimidation. Bullying can be defined in many different ways. Although the UK currently has no legal definition of bullying,[2] some US states have laws against it.[3]
Bullying ranges from simple one on one bullying to more complex bullying in which the bully may have one or more 'lieutenants' who may seem to be willing to assist the primary bully in his bullying activities. Bullying in school and the workplace is also referred to as peer abuse"
 
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1) I quite agree with the Holy Scripture

I warn everyone who hears the words
of the prophecy of this book: If anyone
adds anything to them, God will add to
him the plagues described in this book.
And if anyone takes words away from
this book of prophecy, God will take
away from him his share in the tree of
life and in the holy city, which are
described in this book.
(Revelation 22:18-19)

2) We must be careful
For the time will come when men will
not put up with sound doctrine. Instead,
to suit their own desires, they will gather
around them a great number of teachers
to say what their itching ears want to
hear.
(2nd Timothy 4:3)
 

zone

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You guys think that because I say to hear His voice that it will be some strange voice from somewhere we know not where. The truth is that we know Him, and His voice, because we are His sheep. And the fear we have is doubt and fear of being exposed. But Jesus says that He is the light, and that everyone who loves the light comes to the light that their deeds might be manifest as having been wrought in God..
you have mishandled this.
its talking about SALVATION vw.

but you seem to be armenian.

sinners who arrive at Calvary by Grace have their condition exposed: BETWEEN THEM AND THE LORD - not prophets who teach public shaming and confessions.

the called sinner hears the Law and knows they are condemned. they BELIEVE what God has said about them.

they hear the Gospel and rejoice and BELIEVE what God has done for them.

the Author and Finsher of their faith WILL finish what He started....unless those people listened to some other spirit and never knew the real Lord.

Matthew 7
I Never Knew You
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
 

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I am sorry zone, that you feel the way you do. I have never tried to place myself on any pedestal, and I think much less of myself than even you could think of me on your worst day.

These words of yours do you nor anyone else any good. But if I can see one person who believes that God is calling them into Fellowship with Him, not supposed fellowship which is confessed because we are told by scripture we are to have this, but a living and growing relationship of a new born child of God with their Father who is in heaven; then I will suffer any abuse you wish to lay on me.

Again, good luck
how many years, how many men and women have you discovered to your dismay that didn't believe God was calling them into fellowship with them? that never really knew The Lord.

it must be innumerable. its seems everyone but you is believing and loving the wrong Lord. i guess they read their Bibles too much. assembled together too much.

if you can find JUST ONE....you're willing to endure the persecution.

the tragedy is if you would stop pretending you are different and special you'd find all those people all around you.

but that's not the prophet's calling is, is it....no, that requires sackcloth and ashes...hair shirts and wild honey and locusts.

and the requiste loneliness....and it's a delusion.

there are no prophets today. it's such a waste vw.
 

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It is a choice we have, either meet God now, or then. If you had ever entered into the holy place within the veil, you would know what I am talking about. Bit you hold yourself away, and teach others to so the same. And if one comes and calls to join in fellowship with the Father, you despise them and hate them and spitefully use them. I guess you will continue until the end of days in this.

I am not special. I am not blessed. I would not wish the revelations I have seen on anyone. Anyone who knows how the kingdom of heaven works knows that the least come first, and that the greatest serve everyone else.

So you see, I am not going to answer your accusations. You know that they are false, that they are excuses which you use to stay far from Him.

Again, I hope it works for you.
 

zone

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Since that night when God revealed Himself to me, I have grown to love Him more than words can express.
but we don't love Him. not like you.
you're able to see into our lives and see that we just read our dead letter bibles and pretend we know the Lord. our prayers are empty and that's why he doesn't hear us.

if you knew the truth (in my case, at least) you would be sorry for those things.

I really do care for you, have since we first talked on this group, but you have changed lately, become someone very different. This has disturbed my heart.

With great sorrow,
vic
no vic. its the other way around.
i loved you and considered you my brother, even with your strange focus on the Spirit over Jesus Christ.

i still considered you my brother, even though you continually denegrate we who love his Word (knowing it is offensive to us), whose focus is CHRIST JESUS, but your focus was always The Spirit, and drawing near, and that we didn't understand. but that was ok with me: we are all individuals.

then i saw your dreadful 'prophetic utterance" supposedly from Christ.

and then the detailed description of prophet and office of prophet and all the trappings. and i knew this was not just someone with an inability to relate to simple believers - this was something else.

it's you who has changed my friend.
 
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It is a choice we have, either meet God now, or then. If you had ever entered into the holy place within the veil, you would know what I am talking about. Bit you hold yourself away, and teach others to so the same. And if one comes and calls to join in fellowship with the Father, you despise them and hate them and spitefully use them. I guess you will continue until the end of days in this.

I am not special. I am not blessed. I would not wish the revelations I have seen on anyone. Anyone who knows how the kingdom of heaven works knows that the least come first, and that the greatest serve everyone else.

So you see, I am not going to answer your accusations. You know that they are false, that they are excuses which you use to stay far from Him.

Again, I hope it works for you.
VW she hasn't read all of them yet, she's posting and responding and posting and responding to each link/ thread... wait a while she'll read mine soon...
 

zone

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It is a choice we have, either meet God now, or then. If you had ever entered into the holy place within the veil, you would know what I am talking about. Bit you hold yourself away, and teach others to so the same. And if one comes and calls to join in fellowship with the Father, you despise them and hate them and spitefully use them. I guess you will continue until the end of days in this.

I am not special. I am not blessed. I would not wish the revelations I have seen on anyone. Anyone who knows how the kingdom of heaven works knows that the least come first, and that the greatest serve everyone else.

So you see, I am not going to answer your accusations. You know that they are false, that they are excuses which you use to stay far from Him.

Again, I hope it works for you.
so since you are His servant (the prophet), you are the greatest, and you are serving everyone else?

is this what you call an invitation to come and fellowship with the Father?

is this how Jesus called sinners to Him? Is this how The Holy Spirit convicts the christians he indwells? over the internet?


Anyone who has the gift of prophecy, or has been called as a prophet, will understand when I say that I did not want to make this post. But the voice of the Lord is not insistent, but rather quietly leading one to do as He wishes. I have from the Lord that I am not to answer critical words any more. So, in obedience to Him, hear these words or not.

In Christ

The testing has started. The dross will be removed from the gold and silver. Those who will not come to Me will not get many more chances. Those who lie about Me will grow even harder in their hearts. Those who do not love Me will go astray, and stumble, and fall. And My servants will prevail, just as I prevailed.

I set a choice before you, with a question. Do you love Me? Will you follow Me? Will you become My servants? Or will you continue to love the knowledge of Me? Will you still follow what you believe? Will you still serve yourself and your pride? Will you live in Me?

Not all that you believe is from Me. And not all that you do is pleasing in My sight. And not all that you say or think is of faith. But My servants will not be so in the days to come. Everything they believe will be from Me, and they will speak My words, and they will do the things that are pleasing in My sight. And I will love them.

I hate your assemblies. I loath your offerings. I despise your service. Your prayers I do not hear, because they are for your own lusts. Your hands are dirty, and your lips have become numb. Your ears do not hear, nor do your eyes see. Who among you has a soft heart? Who is seeking truth in My Father's presence? Who has lost themselves for Me and to Me? Who has lost every other love, to know My love? Who has become My servant?

I am coming quickly. I am coming with a sword. I am coming to make war, to make an end, a complete ending of all the lies. I am coming to reward My servants, and to gather those who love My appearing. Will you be ashamed at My appearing, or will you have great joy? Either way, I am coming quickly.
good night vic.
 

zone

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VW she hasn't read all of them yet, she's posting and responding and posting and responding to each link/ thread... wait a while she'll read mine soon...
what was it you wanted?
what are you on about?
 

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is this one of your sting operations?

how are you enjoying Chris' podcast?

your welcome incidentally.
lol no he popped up all on his own, just thought you might find him interesting. He corrected my mistaken impression, he thinks WWIII will happen between 2012 and 2016 according to something he read in the Bible. He admits to not knowing the when of Christ's return.

Actually Chris' podcast are nice, and I told you thanks in your other thread. enjoying the limelight?

Hi VW :) hope you're having a blessed day.
 

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lol no he popped up all on his own, just thought you might find him interesting. He corrected my mistaken impression, he thinks WWIII will happen between 2012 and 2016 according to something he read in the Bible. He admits to not knowing the when of Christ's return.

Actually Chris' podcast are nice, and I told you thanks in your other thread. enjoying the limelight?

Hi VW :) hope you're having a blessed day.
Thank you, I am. I made it through another night at work. It is not so bad, most nights I get to spend a lot of time in His presence, Just sitting at His feet and learning of Him.

I pray that all is well with you and yours, in the provision of God's Son.
 
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Many among us have more acquaintance with the Word than with the Lord. They should go together. The Word should not be apart from the Person. I feel that many have begun wrongly. We must have a certificate that is independent of Scripture. Otherwise we will not enter into the kingdom of heaven! This is a problem. VW is right! Do not know what it means to walk in the Spirit and hear His living words?
 

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What is the Bible?

The ''LIVING ORACLES''of God! (Acts 7).
 

zone

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lol no he popped up all on his own, just thought you might find him interesting. He corrected my mistaken impression, he thinks WWIII will happen between 2012 and 2016 according to something he read in the Bible. He admits to not knowing the when of Christ's return.

enjoying the limelight?
i can only handle so many charismatics at once...it's wearying.
limelight?
i'm WORKING.