I am very much interested in Christ, I am not all that interested in the current flow of conversation in this thread.
Temple from Ezekiel's vision (ch.40+)
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You could learn from it. And test what you know against it. The Pharisees stopped their ears and ended up murdering Jesus because they did not like what they heard. Do you think they were right about Israel?
I think that scripture was right about Israel.
The truth is I can learn about a lot of different things. I already know about the temple mentioned in Ezekiel, and that the measurements provided will be incorporated into the blueprints of the temple that has yet to be built. I learned that from scripture.
Perhaps, when someone doesn't agree with your perceptions you stop up your ears too like the Pharisees. There are some that can't handle the truth.
Regarding the temple, the construction is not predicated on what we may or not believe for it will indeed be built on the exacted designated site according to the prophesy.
Ezekiel's literal temple has never been built. Most people think the Jews are about to build it in Israel very soon, so Ezekiel writing about around 900 BC is a prophecy of a future temple. Herod's temple was destroyed in AD 70 and still at that point Ezekiel's temple had never been built.
I'm saying that Ezekiel's temple is not a literal temple, it is a foreshadow of the body of Christ, the real temple of God. In the verse I kept posting, it says that the Jew's broke God's covenant. That means that the Old Covenant was still in existence when Ezekiel's temple was built, the body of Christ, not the literal temple.
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Maybe the Jews are going to use it as their guide to rebuild a temple. Maybe this will happen in our lifetime. Before 1948 it was hard to imagine the restoration of the nation of Israel but look how much has happened since then. Many people are still alive who have seen it become what it has today. With modern construction methods an elaborate temple could be built in a year or less. I am not saying that God will accept the animal sacrifices of the Jewish temple but the Jews do not know that.
Most of the contributions to this thread have very good, valid points, and I am keeping them to myself. The best is that fourth temple idea, on earth that is. I have not come across this anywhere but in Ezekiel, and yet I do not declare I understand either way. Yet those here have given me more to meditate on......thank all for helping each other and me.
The Pharisees had a veil over their eyes so they could not be saved. And you side with them and reject Jesus?
Scribe you can rest assured that God WILL NOT accept animal sacrifices from the Jews ever again because Israel will never be restored as a nation because God is finished with the nation of Israel forever.
(Amo 8:1) Thus hath the Lord GOD shewed unto me: and behold a basket of summer fruit.
(Amo 8:2) And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.
This is why Jesus said " Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors".
Jesus was telling the Jews that the end of Israel was upon them, summer was almost there. And when summer came, that generation alive at the time of Christ did not not pass, until all of those things in Matthew 24 were fulfilled.
The second temple was built in opposition to the will of God. He gave over the faithless Jews to do that which they should not of.
Why would a believer desire another abomination of desolation be built. What would be the purpose/?
Let me get this straight. Are you saying or implying that exactly each and every one of your opinions on spiritual matters must be 100% correct, and that every one that disagrees with you has a veil over their eyes so therefore are not saved?
By the standards you have set, everyone on this site, excluding yourself of course, has a veil over their eyes and are not saved because they have rejected Jesus. Fortunately, I hold myself and others on this site to a higher spiritual standard.
Well, you certainly have the right to state your opinion and now I will state mine. It is my opinion that over the years you have concocted your own spiritual estimation by wresting, twisting, misquoting, and omitting scripture to suit your own narrative that supports your warped spiritual perceptions.
As I have said before many times, none of us is perfect, including myself. It stands to reason therefore that you're not perfect either. I will also go as far as to say that you are seriously spiritually misguided.
You're in need of prayer. In my opinion so am I. Take a certain measure of comfort in knowing that you're not alone in this.
The temple symbolizes where God dwells. The temple is not God. Our bodies are suppose to be a temple to the Lord. We are not a temple but rather the temple is the vessel that contains what is deep inside of our hearts. Using an analogy, a church building is not the church, those inside represent the church as long as they are gathered together in the name of God. If so, Jesus is in the midst of them. Your estimation on this point is spiritually in error.
Jesus said he is the temple. They killed him for claiming it. Do you agree with the Pharisees?
After considerable thought I concede that you are correct and that I am in error regarding whether or not Jesus is the temple. In my opinion, this verse is conclusive evidence that what you have stated is true. I have not however changed my stance on other points of contention in regards to the OP.
John 2:19
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
If you look at the measurements the area would be larger than the state of Israel today...
You just won my respect brother! Nothing wrong with being wrong, I’ve been wrong many times and I thank you for your honest response. I wish all of us were that honest with others and ourselves.