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No one here preaches licence for sin, to warrant such commentary. What do you imagine yourself to be man? How did it come down to us all tolerating bold blasphemy of the Holy Spirit such as this??? Please read what he responded to, a post describing being born again and sense of safety coming from deep relationship with Jesus. I will report any such posts I see in the future, just for his information so he doesn't say he hasn't been warned.
1. I did not mention anything about a license to sin.

2. I don’t imagine anything about myself. I know I am a born again believer because I get my doctrine from the Bible.

3. You have no clue what blasphemy is if you think I posted blasphemy.

4. I was not speaking against being again. You need to exercise temperance and reign in your emotions.

5. There are many posts I think are report worthy. But I don’t have a prideful attitude in judgment.

God bless you!
 
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I suppose you can be right.

An ungodly spirit can come over you and blind you when you resist the plain passages that are contrary to OSAS. In fact, God himself probably sends that spirit to the one who will continue to resist the scriptures.

We need to try the spirits, whether they are of God (1 John 4:1).
In Romans and Timothy it states that some people will be left to their own ungodliness. Is there Scripture that states God may send an ungodly spirit against some people?
 
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I don’t get the extreme hatred of some of you OSAS people.

I am fully convinced based on scripture that you are deceived.

But I rather assume you are simply mistaken and keep a loving spirit towards you.

You works bear witness of what spirit you are off. If you could you would probably call fire down upon me. Go ask the Lord about that (Luke 9:54-55).
 
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Be careful you mentioned “me”

If you scroll back I was berated for saying “ me” and “I”......so be careful.......
You have no idea how relieved I am to have the ignore button.
Berated? Not at all.
Presented with reality? Indeed.
 
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I don’t get the extreme hatred of some of you OSAS people.

I am fully convinced based on scripture that you are deceived.

But I rather assume you are simply mistaken and keep a loving spirit towards you.

You works bear witness of what spirit you are off. If you could you would probably call fire down upon me. Go ask the Lord about that (Luke 9:54-55).
What we hate is the dogma.

The real question in my mind is why you and others seems to be so comfortable and not filled with hate towards a dogma which.... devalues, denies, denigrates the work of Christ Jesus?
 

SoulWeaver

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I can quote you scripture where some assume a fatherhood the father doesn’t recognize.
Jesus is called the only Son. There are no other sons only Jesus is accepted. The warnings in the Bible are there for us to carefully determine whether Jesus lives within us or not. Once the Undying One moves in, He is able to settle the matter with His opposition inside and get them out...

1. I did not mention anything about a license to sin.

2. I don’t imagine anything about myself. I know I am a born again believer because I get my doctrine from the Bible.

3. You have no clue what blasphemy is if you think I posted blasphemy.

4. I was not speaking against being again. You need to exercise temperance and reign in your emotions.

5. There are many posts I think are report worthy. But I don’t have a prideful attitude in judgment.

God bless you!
I will not be so easily gaslighted with shifty language. You literally called belief in salvation security (and very clearly implied that all OSAS believers are deceived by) a blinding, ungodly spirit. So we all have confidence in Jesus' capability as Father and Shepherd because of evil spirits? I did not say you mentioned licentiousness. That being said, why would you even say that if there is no licentiousness implied about us. I said this: HAVE you said that about licentiousness (ungodly spirit), that it would be warranted and agreed upon. Also, I did not question your salvation but I do say blasphemous posts will not be tolerated. My response wasn't emotional but very much so in place. If I was acting emotionally I would have reported you already.
 

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Stone, Jesus said he came to divide. He also said they’d be those who kill others thinking they are doing God’s will. I can assure you 100% that the killers are not united with their victims but on different sides. You need to see what is there, not the theory.
When did Paul personally give repentance?
There are those who thought and think God is their Father but God has the final say in that. Believing it to be so doesn’t make it so.

I have known His pleasure on my choices. It is a goal worthy of a whole life. Time is more than sufficient. Humility is what is lacking, not time, as well as a love of the truth.
So we have killers here? Islam has shown us what this means in graphic detail.

I spoke of His body which begins with the new birth and baptism of Holy Spirit.

Perhaps my wording concerning Paul and his dealing with sin in the fellowship of the Corinthians was unclear. When there was repentance, the offender was restored to fellowship.

Something about bad apples in barrels would fit I think. Still does.

In the overall picture of what is called churches and denominations today? The gospel of repentance from sin, being born again and baptized in Holy Spirit has been compromised. The results being loss of His presence and power.

But....the tide is turning.

So back to what we are addressing, and in the case of you and I? ongoing for quite a long time.

We have in the body of Christ many diverse opinions of truth. Why? Well, I can name a few reasons and I’m sure others can add to the list what I don’t see.

My experience dictates these things to me that led to my up and down experience. 1. Not understanding. No teaching or a hit and miss kind of truth snatches here and there.

Possibly, my fault for not attending church on a regular basis.

But, the times that I did spend years in one place? Only hearing the message of salvation.

Am sure Holy Spirit took my case and changed the situation. For it wasn’t because of any faithfulness on my part. It’s because He is faithful.

And He put me in a place with a great teacher. And I began to love the languages of Hebrew and Greek and to study the meanings through the Strongs and other concordances. And He slowly, at my own pace, untangled my confusion.

I was young, now am old, but I’ve never seen the righteous forsaken, nor His seed begging bread.

Righteousness is the gift that’s imputed to us through faith. Upright describes what you expouse Dottie.

Every good and perfect gift comes down to us from the Father of lights....and His Son is this gift.

The Jews were given laws to live by, None could do them perfectly, so God gives them innocent blood through animal sacrifice. I know you know this....but do you know that law has a boomerang effect of bringing the wrong result when trying to obey? We will run from God every time we try. Why? Guilt.

A very hard taskmaster to live under. So is sin for sin is our rebellious nature. We are born with it because the light of God or the glory of God, His presence that once was in Adam, left.

Seperated from God.

I remember a disagreement between us about children being born with the nature of sin. We are born into sin, but a sin not committed until the choice is made to rebel.

Will stop there. I know I said a lot. Sometimes we just have to do this.
 
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Wrong on all charges.

If I am sinless, it is because I believed the gospel and walk in the Spirit.
If you think you have (present tense) you decieved yourself and there is no truth in you

Before you get mad. Those are not my words. It is the words of the apostle john
 

stonesoffire

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I hate to break it to you but everyone I know except one has benefited from the pandemic. Families are spending time together. Commutes that took hours are gone. Eating is confined to home meals saving money. I don’t doubt it negatively affects some but many are very blessed and find the quality of life has improved. Money isn’t everything.
Yes, there are blessings like this unless you lose your paycheck.
 
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Is there Scripture that states God may send an ungodly spirit against some people?
Judges 9:23

1 Samuel 16:14

Isaiah 66:4

Romans 11:8

2 Corinthians 11:4

Ephesians 2:2

On another note:

Ephesians 4:30
[30] And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Compare with:

Psalm 95:10-11
[10] Forty years long was I grieved with this generation, and said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways: [11] Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.


Hebrews 4:1
[1] Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
 
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making a horrendous accusation
Have I threatened to report anyone?

One has already mentioned a threat to report me. This shows insecurity. This is a kind of calling down a fire upon me to remove me from their presence.

I am secure in my belief and am strong in the Spirit by the grace of God. This is how I can quench the OSAS fiery darts.

I will be here as long as it is God’s will that I be here. Standing for the truth of the Bible.
 
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Have I threatened to report anyone?

One has already mentioned a threat to report me. This shows insecurity. This is a kind of calling down a fire upon me to remove me from their presence.

I am secure in my belief and am strong in the Spirit by the grace of God. This is how I can quench the OSAS fiery darts.

I will be here as long as it is God’s will that I be here. Standing for the truth of the Bible.
and we who have Gods truth, will be here in Gods power standing for all attacks against his character. which is NOSAS in a nutshell